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Charlie and Rosie Are Scum
Special to FreeRepublic ^ | 24 March 2007 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

Posted on 03/24/2007 10:34:27 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob

I’ve been writing for publication for 50 years. I have never before referred to a fellow citizen as “scum.” Growing up, I was taught that all human beings have worth, and that even “bad” people have some virtues. So, what could possibly make me call Charlie Sheen and Rosie O’Donnell, scum?

These two people are backing an effort to recut, with Sheen narrating, an existing video about 9/11 called “Loose Change,” and distribute it through Magnolia Pictures. In addition to the sitcom actor and the talk show hostess, the other player may be Mark Cuban, an eccentric and sometimes out-of-control multi-millionaire who owns Magnolia, the Dallas Mavericks, and various other pricey baubles.

(An article on wcbs.com on 22 March, 2007, by Andrew Kirtzman, provided many of the facts for this column.)

Let’s have a look at what the original film contains. Here are two lines from the narration of that film: “If the government is lying about flight 93, is it hard to believe the rest is a lie?” And, this: “I know it's hard to imagine the government would intentionally murder almost 3000 innocent people, but once you begin to accept that possibility you can never go back to the 19 Arabs.”

Is the idea that there was no Arab attack using planes on 9/11 merely a matter of political opinion? Absolutely not. There are physical laws on such matters as high-speed impact, high temperature fires, failure of steel and other materials under such stresses. And the collapse of the two World Trade Center buildings and the outer wall of the Pentagon on 9/11, all followed those laws.

Sheen has backed this conspiracy theory in interviews. O’Donnell has backed it by reprinting the theories on her website. Cuban is backing it by saying of the film project, “we like controversial subjects.”

As a one-time physicist myself, I can follow the analysis of the hard evidence from what happened, as laid out in a book by James Meigs, Editor in Chief of Popular Mechanics magazine. Point by point he debunked the conspiracy theories about 9/11 being a US government plot to get us into war. He concluded, “It is a brilliantly patched-together stew of all kinds of misconceptions, misquotes and real mistakes about how things really worked on that day.”

So the idea that 9/11 was a vicious US plot is nonsense. I’ve spent decades writing about political nonsense without calling those who hold such views, scum. This is worse than mere politics.

Barbara Olson was an acquaintance of mine. She was a writer, and a wife and mother. She was talking on her cell phone to her husband, Solicitor General Ted Olson, as her hijacked plane was flown into the Pentagon. My fiancee was two blocks from the WTC when the first tower fell. With thousands of others, she ran north through the smoke and debris, not knowing if she would survive.

These conspiracy nuts are spitting on the memories of those who died that day, and all who were harmed, and all of their families, and on all of America – because the whole nation was the target of those attacks.

Why would any Americans stoop to such a cruel and dishonest position? As usual, history books provide an answer. During WW II, there were a handful of people who hated President Roosevelt so much that they bruited about, and apparently believed, the conspiracy theory that Roosevelt knew about the Pearl Harbor attack in advance. They believed he allowed it to happen, in order to bring the US into WW II.

The current conspiracy theory is even worse. Hatred for the Bush Administration has led certain people, including Sheen and O’Donnell to believe that this administration murdered 3,000Americans in order to create a war. To my view, that makes Sheen and O’Donnell scum. Cuban may be in it merely for the money, not the belief, so I won’t call him scum.

Is that too harsh, or do you agree?

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About the Author: John Armor practiced in the US Supreme Court for 33 years. John_Armor@aya.yale.edu He lives in the 11th District of North Carolina.

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KEYWORDS: 911; barbaraolson; charliesheen; rosieodonnell
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To: Congressman Billybob

Amen.


21 posted on 03/24/2007 11:09:45 AM PDT by fullchroma
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To: dfwgator

I'm with you - go spurs!


22 posted on 03/24/2007 11:10:35 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: altura

Cuban became a billionaire out of pure dumb luck. He is an idiot!!


23 posted on 03/24/2007 11:11:56 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Misery loves miserable company.......ask any liberal. Hunter in 08!)
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To: aquila48

I live near Dallas and I have nothing but contempt for Cuban. And that was before I read this story. He is nothing but a punk loudmouth who got lucky and made a lot of money. I wouldn't spit on him if he were on fire. I also wouldn't walk across the street to see his stupid basketball team either.

He is beyond disgusting. I don't think the citizens of Dallas will boycott the team though because they are winning and sad to say, that is all that counts with a lot of people here.


24 posted on 03/24/2007 11:14:05 AM PDT by wayoverthehill
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To: Congressman Billybob

"Scum" is a perfect description for Charlie, Rosie, Mark Cuban, and the rest of that ilk.


25 posted on 03/24/2007 11:14:11 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Congressman Billybob

So, what could possibly make me call Charlie Sheen and Rosie O’Donnell, scum?




How about truth?
How about the facts?
How about their past ?
How about the words from their own big mouths??

Personally I believe scum is not near strong enough.


26 posted on 03/24/2007 11:17:38 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

"Cuban became a billionaire out of pure dumb luck. He is an idiot!!"

Donald Trump agrees with you - he's sophomoric and intent to stay that way.

I wouldn't be surprised if the reason Cuban's helping Rosie is to get back to Trump. I saw The Donald ripping Cuban up one side and down the other on a TV interview about a month ago.


27 posted on 03/24/2007 11:20:30 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: rob21

Good point, rob.


28 posted on 03/24/2007 11:22:25 AM PDT by Bahbah (Regev, Goldwasser & Shalit, we are praying for you.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
I don't have a single problem in calling these liberal nutjobs, "scum." That's exactly what they are.
29 posted on 03/24/2007 11:22:37 AM PDT by KATIE-O (Rudy Giuliani - Restoring Optimism in '08)
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To: fullchroma
The following is a letter I recently sent to Barbara Walters, grande dame of Rosie's insipid "The View." (The flattering tone is an effort to be heard, rather than my true opinion of Baba Wawa.)

Dear Ms. Walters,

You might consider renaming your once fine show: Rosie's View.

I'm surprised that you, an icon of modern journalism, don't hold Ms. O'Donnell accountable for accuracy and truth in her political and cultural analyses as she daily "enlightens" (her word, oft-used) your audience. Ms. O'Donnell's defenders say, "She's a comic, there’s a different standard." The line between comedy and solemn-faced punditry is distinct and it's very clear on which side of the line her sanctimonious lectures occur.

Most recently, Ms. O’Donnell pronounced that President Bush denied Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and others access to an attorney “because of the Patriot Act.” Not true. She also offered the four-year-old photo of the unkempt, just-roused-from-bed and captured Mohammed and suggested it was taken after the United States had tortured the poor man. Also, not true.

The First Amendment provides some of our most precious freedoms. These freedoms come with responsibilities. It’s irresponsible to use the public airways in this manner and I’m shocked that you and ABC not only condone but promote such chronically skewed misinformation without correction or accounting. On second thought, maybe your show could be renamed Rosie’s Skew.

I find it sad that a journalist of your caliber and accomplishment may be best known for such a lowbrow absurdity.

Respectfully,
fullchroma

P.S. Ms. Hasselbeck deserves a public apology from a certain “blathering” boor.




What an excellent letter. Wish I'd written it. ;) Thank you!!
30 posted on 03/24/2007 11:24:48 AM PDT by KATIE-O (Rudy Giuliani - Restoring Optimism in '08)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Keep preaching, sooner or later it might sink in to the average Joe in America that these scum bags are just that..now see I called them the same as you..what they are.My mother told me there was good in everyone you just have to look deeper..Well I have looked and listened to these left wing nuts and am sick and tired of listening to their lies..If there is good in them I would like for someone show me...


31 posted on 03/24/2007 11:29:03 AM PDT by Beth528
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To: KATIE-O
"Scum" is a term that isn't used enough. Being a Hollywood resident doesn't excuse anyone from being "scum". Yet the MSM can't help themselves in kissing their behinds.
32 posted on 03/24/2007 11:29:51 AM PDT by oyez (In politics perception is reality.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

Well, I for one am waiting for the time when the nuts will say there never was a World Trade Center. They are already editing the building out of some older movies. Give it another 20 years or so,, maybe even sooner. I fully expect this. I am sure that the nutcase peanut sized mind can create the right kind of conspiracy that will attract enough followers to achieve a cult like status and make it to prime time.


33 posted on 03/24/2007 11:31:36 AM PDT by freemike
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To: Congressman Billybob
Why would any Americans stoop to such a cruel and dishonest position?

Because they are liberals, and they hate anyone who doesn't agree with them. We know that liberalism is a mental illness, and when you look at Rosie or Charlie, it's obvious! They are both big losers!

34 posted on 03/24/2007 11:34:18 AM PDT by NRA2BFree (Duncan Hunter for President '08 - A genuine "Reagan Republican" for America!)
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To: KATIE-O

Write one! I feel strongly that Rosie is scum. That widely broadcast, five days-a-week bully pulpit show makes her dangerous, too.


35 posted on 03/24/2007 11:36:21 AM PDT by fullchroma
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To: aquila48

I met Mr. Holt, the Spurs owner a few years ago. He is probably the classiest owner in all of sports, he's everything Cuban is not.


36 posted on 03/24/2007 11:37:03 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Tokyo Rose

Lord Haw Haw

Jane Fonda

Alex Baldwin

Cindy Sheehan

Rosie O'Donnell

Charlie Sheen

Scumbags all.

No. You were not too harsh.

37 posted on 03/24/2007 11:39:49 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (We are all foot soldiers in this War On Terror.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
John,

I've never done this before, but this article pushes me to disagree with you in no uncertain terms.

Rosie and Sheen ARE NOT scum. They are BEYOND scum.

Sorry for the disagreement.
38 posted on 03/24/2007 11:43:24 AM PDT by upchuck (The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.)
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To: Congressman Billybob

The braindeads who buy into vast complicated government conspiracies seem to forget how totally incompetent bureaucracies are.


39 posted on 03/24/2007 11:44:40 AM PDT by tkathy
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To: alicewonders

Much too nice a word.


40 posted on 03/24/2007 11:44:52 AM PDT by mulligan
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