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Mystery Of The Fat Venus (Porn?)
Stuff.com.nz ^ | 4-9-2007 | Bob Brockie

Posted on 04/09/2007 2:38:27 PM PDT by blam

Mystery of the fat Venus

The Dominion Post | Monday, 9 April 2007

WORLD OF SCIENCE - BOB BROCKIE

We all know about those hand-sized Ice Age women carved in stone – those plump ladies with huge breasts and behinds, tiny heads, artful hairdos and no faces.

They're known as Palaeolithic Venuses and they raise a lot of puzzling questions: How come these almost identical figurines were found all the way from France to Siberia? How come this stylised carving tradition was practised and passed down over 20,000 years? What purpose did they serve?

There are as many answers to these questions as there are archaeologists and art critics. Frankly, the Venuses are a mystery. But the mystery has just deepened and widened.

The latest issue of the journal Antiquity tells of dozens of small portable statuettes recently unearthed in Germany, France, Poland, and the Czech Republic.

The figurines, chipped in flint, or carved in ivory or bone between 14,000 and 16,000 years ago, are of stylised women, or parts of women, with over- sized buttocks, long straight or arched trunks, small or missing breasts, and no heads, arms or feet. At Wilczyce, in Poland, the archeologists have also dug up more than 100 ancient stylised pictures of these women's long straight backs and large bustles engraved on schist plaques.

Some of these strangely-shaped flint objects were discovered years ago when archaeologists misidentified them as early tools, and called them "strangled blades". Last year, however, the research team, led by Romuald Schild at the Polish Academy of Sciences, discovered the tools are all in mint condition. They have never been used to scrape, cut, or hammer anything.

Professor Dale Guthrie, from the university of Alaska, and author of The Nature of Paleolithic Art, is surprised that while Paleolithic people were surrounded by plenty of things – babies, men, animals, plants, battle scenes, clan symbols – these things were never represented in their art, only well-endowed women. Guthrie suggests that all the figurines were made by young men and "it's not too difficult to theorise about what was on their minds in their free time". He thinks the similarly stylised Venus figures represent a cross-cultural view of women shared by prehistoric Europeans – well prehistoric men – for more than 20,000 years.

That a fashionable body shape should persist for 20,000 years is almost beyond the comprehension of modern Europeans. Our fashionable shape- shifting ladies have rapidly morphed from the Belle Epoche hourglass, to the Edwardian bustle shape, to the curveless boy-like creatures of the 1920s, to today's skeletal catwalk strutters foisted on us by women and poofter fashion designers.

These days a red-blooded man can lose all respectability by admitting to a penchant for well-endowed women. But, underground, hankering after Ice Age beauties is alive and well.

A minute on the Internet will reveal about a million adult sites displaying beckoning super-curvy ladies with acres of arched backs and Paleolithic backsides.

But back to the figurines. Other schools of archaeologists don't go along with the caveman porn theory. They suggest these carvings served as fertility symbols or for some mystical or religious purpose.

Any better suggestions?


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeology; fat; godsgravesglyphs; mystery; venus
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1 posted on 04/09/2007 2:38:29 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

‘Venus’ Figurines in Prehistoric Europe: The Emergence of Art and Belief


2 posted on 04/09/2007 2:40:05 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
" . . . to today's skeletal catwalk strutters foisted on us by women and poofter fashion designers."

Oooops. Bob Brockie's off to rehab.

3 posted on 04/09/2007 2:42:56 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: blam
Venus figures from Russia,the Ukraine and sites East of the Donau mouth
(Lots of pictures)


4 posted on 04/09/2007 2:43:54 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
These days a red-blooded man can lose all respectability by admitting to a penchant for well-endowed women.

What is this guy, crazy?

5 posted on 04/09/2007 2:44:22 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: blam
More bounce to the ounce ...or is that ouch??
6 posted on 04/09/2007 2:45:25 PM PDT by Gunny P (Gunny P)
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To: blam

Larry Flyntstone.


7 posted on 04/09/2007 2:45:55 PM PDT by Erasmus (This tagline on sabbatical.)
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To: blam
A minute on the Internet will reveal about a million adult sites displaying beckoning super-curvy ladies with acres of arched backs and Paleolithic backsides.

Can't we just be in-between? I don't want to be skeletal or Rubenesque.
8 posted on 04/09/2007 2:46:15 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: blam

Decidedly callipygian.


9 posted on 04/09/2007 2:47:38 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Gunny P

No no more ounces for the bounces which result in more ouches.


10 posted on 04/09/2007 2:50:13 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: Cicero
"Decidedly callipygian."

callipygian

Main Entry: cal·li·pyg·ian
Pronunciation: "ka-l&-'pi-j(E-)&n
Variant(s): also cal·li·py·gous /-'pI-g&s/
Function: adjective
Etymology: Greek kallipygos, from kalli- + pygE buttocks
: having shapely buttocks

11 posted on 04/09/2007 2:50:45 PM PDT by blam
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To: Cicero
"Decidedly callipygian."

callipygian

Main Entry: cal·li·pyg·ian
Pronunciation: "ka-l&-'pi-j(E-)&n
Variant(s): also cal·li·py·gous /-'pI-g&s/
Function: adjective
Etymology: Greek kallipygos, from kalli- + pygE buttocks
: having shapely buttocks

12 posted on 04/09/2007 2:51:02 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Reminds me of “Eaters of the Dead” or the movie based on that book, “The 13th Warrior”. The bad guys all had these figurines.


13 posted on 04/09/2007 2:51:13 PM PDT by rednesss
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To: blam

I may may have to use that one on the wife.


14 posted on 04/09/2007 2:51:55 PM PDT by toast
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To: blam

:singing:

“Fat-Bottomed Girls, you make the rockin’ world go ‘round!”


15 posted on 04/09/2007 2:52:02 PM PDT by Old Sarge (+ /_\)
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To: Erasmus
Or Russ Meyer...


16 posted on 04/09/2007 2:52:57 PM PDT by johnny7 ("Issue in Doubt." -Col. David Monroe Shoup, USMC 1943)
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To: Erasmus

ROFLMAO!


17 posted on 04/09/2007 2:53:40 PM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: blam
callipygian

My new word for the day...
18 posted on 04/09/2007 2:54:23 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot
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To: blam

I swear Mom, I was carving a tool, not a stylized big breasted woman!

19 posted on 04/09/2007 2:56:11 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: blam
Any better suggestions

I have a better suggestion. when language was primative and probably unintelligible between even proximate tribes, roving bands of men carried items that they could use as a form of sign language. A cylindrical rock could be used to show that he was seeking beer, a flat, round rock could ask if there was somewhere close by where he might get a pizza, and the woman-shape might have asked if there might be any frisky females around.

20 posted on 04/09/2007 2:57:05 PM PDT by jdub
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To: blam
They're known as Palaeolithic Venuses...

Why aren't they known as Paleolithic Helen Thomas with bag on head?

21 posted on 04/09/2007 2:57:41 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: blam
Caveman porn.

That's all it was.

22 posted on 04/09/2007 2:58:36 PM PDT by Lazamataz (God: Always, In All Ways.)
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To: highlander_UW

Helen WISHES she had that waist.


23 posted on 04/09/2007 3:00:02 PM PDT by jagusafr (The proof that we are rightly related to God is that we do our best whether we feel inspired or not")
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To: jagusafr

Maybe they ran low on clay.


24 posted on 04/09/2007 3:02:51 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: blam

Baby got back!


25 posted on 04/09/2007 3:05:02 PM PDT by ol' hoghead (He is not here; for he is risen.)
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To: blam

“with over- sized buttocks, long straight or arched trunks, small or missing breasts, and no heads, arms or feet.”
Statues of my ex-wife?


26 posted on 04/09/2007 3:06:02 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: blam
Baby got back.
Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
27 posted on 04/09/2007 3:07:48 PM PDT by mkjessup (Rudy Giuliani '08!! -- "an aborted fetus in every pot, and no guns in any garage!!!")
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
"Oooops. Bob Brockie's off to rehab."

Agreed...! Me - I'm turned on by a mere, fleeting pulse and anything above that!!!

28 posted on 04/09/2007 3:11:33 PM PDT by Dacus943
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To: blam
What’s all the mystery about...I saw her at the checkout line at the 7-11 with an armful of Twinkies.
29 posted on 04/09/2007 3:11:40 PM PDT by econjack
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To: Erasmus
Larry Flyntstone.

Gneiss one!

30 posted on 04/09/2007 3:12:22 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: stylecouncilor

ping


31 posted on 04/09/2007 3:13:56 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: blam
A couple thousand years from now, someone will dig up a mudflap girl and wonder what it was for.


32 posted on 04/09/2007 3:13:57 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Xenalyte
Can't we just be in-between? I don't want to be skeletal or Rubenesque.

Of course, but to err a little on the Rubenesque side is better in most guys opinion. Of course there is the danger of rationalization, which can lead to the Rubeneque outcome.

(It's not Like El Gato Gordo can talk, he's the master of such rationalization!)

33 posted on 04/09/2007 3:14:30 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: blam
Any better suggestions?

Token good for one free "go" at neolithic brothel chain

34 posted on 04/09/2007 3:15:37 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymLJz3N8ayI">Open Season</a> rocks)
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To: blam

Junk in the trunk.


35 posted on 04/09/2007 3:15:48 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Erasmus

Joke-of-the-day award!


36 posted on 04/09/2007 3:15:57 PM PDT by steveo (Is there anything else I can help you with today?)
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To: El Gato; Bacon Man; Hap
Bacon and Hap have la gata mas gordita!

Here's their Ginger, in all her shaved-for-summer glory. This picture doesn't even begin to do justice to her weightiness.


37 posted on 04/09/2007 3:17:43 PM PDT by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: blam

I thought the article said “little or no breasts”? I’d like to see their understanding of large breasts!


38 posted on 04/09/2007 3:23:44 PM PDT by T.Smith
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To: blam
They've looooooooong been recognized as fertility figures.

...chipped in flint...

Proof the author is an idiot.

39 posted on 04/09/2007 3:25:48 PM PDT by Tinian
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To: rednesss
"Reminds me of “Eaters of the Dead” or the movie based on that book, “The 13th Warrior”. The bad guys all had these figurines"

Don't let me bore you but you do know that that book and movie are rewrites of Beowulf. Crichton wrote it on a bet that he could make Beowulf readable to a modern audience.

40 posted on 04/09/2007 3:29:42 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: blam

Bill Clinton says, “I’d hit on it.”


41 posted on 04/09/2007 3:31:33 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Our first responsibility is to keep the power of the Presidency out of the hands of the Clintons.)
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To: Xenalyte

Shaved kitty. Love it!


42 posted on 04/09/2007 3:35:16 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter-Thompson '08)
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To: blam
The usual/agreed thought about these figurines, has been that they are representations of goddesses/fecundity. The tiny statuettes are thought to represent a pregnant woman; that is why the arms are very thin, while the rest of the body is not. The reason that there never is an engraved face ( except for the bird headed ones ) is because it is a female ideal and not any particular woman.

The picture you posted, from Russian, is very similar to the very well known Venus of Willendorf.

43 posted on 04/09/2007 3:37:02 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: blam

Cro-magnun man

Neanderthal man

Bodankadonk man


44 posted on 04/09/2007 3:38:19 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter-Thompson '08)
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To: blam

I find it amusing that one find a handful of figurines and suddenly they become representative of a culture. A molar and some bone fragments become a wondrous new source of scientific funding because they are interpreted as a possible human ancestor.

I would venture that the reason curvaceous boyish girls have become so popular is because so many fashion designers are homosexual. It is not because most men desire woman who look like young boys it is because those who decide what is fashionable like young boys. I do believe that the increasing acceptance of sexual androgyny has fueled increase in molestation and sexual confusion but what do I know. lol


45 posted on 04/09/2007 3:50:00 PM PDT by Maelstorm (A wise man develops a philosophy that drives his politics not the other way around.)
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To: blam

BOB BROCKIE
likes the (audience participation).


46 posted on 04/09/2007 3:52:17 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: SauronOfMordor

According to Rick Potts “these paleolithic or ancient stone-tool people made one simple implement for nearly a million years.” According to Potts, the stone axe “was the Swiss Army knife of the paleolithic period.”

The fact that these Paleolithic Venus objects were around for thousands of years does not mean that much in light of unchanging stone axes for a million years.

My guess is these Paleolithic Venuses were carved by women not men. I see women as having more time on their hands than men who are out hunting with “Swiss Army” knives. Most likely these “women” would be young girls who are about to “marry” and who desire to be fertile and have babies. Somehow they used these Paleolithic Venuses (perhaps in coming of age ceremonies) as votives to be fertile.

I see this as much more likely scenario than paleolithic porn.

Another scenario is the were collectibles (e.g beanie babies) with which some Stone Age Thomas Kinkade flooded the market.


47 posted on 04/09/2007 3:53:40 PM PDT by dominic flandry
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
Oooops. Bob Brockie's off to rehab.

nah rehab is a poofter yank idea. Blokes don't do it.

48 posted on 04/09/2007 3:57:04 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Being a political pundit is so easy anyone can do it, And does)
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To: blam

49 posted on 04/09/2007 3:59:18 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Kirkwood; blam
A couple thousand years from now, someone will dig up a mudflap girl ...

Proof that Homo sapiens continues to evolve.

50 posted on 04/09/2007 4:00:33 PM PDT by cynwoody
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