Skip to comments.Gunman's writings were disturbing (Eagle Scout saves his life by applying a tourniquet from a cord)
Posted on 04/17/2007 2:22:21 PM PDT by Coleus
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I still want to know if Cho went islamo.
Cho Seung-Hui was no Stephen King!
Typical whiny liberal.
Ismail Ax on the left arm (closest to the heart) of the killer tells me all I need to know about his motives.
Ismail (Ishmael) was the father of the Arabs and was cast out in our accounts while Isaac was offered up for sacrifice. In the Moslem accounts/koran, they write that Ismail was the true sacrifice and the scribes corrupted the account. Ismail Ax means to me makes it appear he was sacrificing himself for his 72 virgins.
I read a piece of his "creative" writing over at the Smoking Gun. In addition to being violent and disgusting, he had no business in a college English class, much less being allowed to major in it.
Anti-woman? That's new info I had not seen before. Tends to support the theory that he might have been influenced by Islam, although that could also be simply from being rejected by girls and becoming a stalker.
In this Scouts case, truly LIFE LONG benefits.
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That’s it! Stephen King goes to jail, NOW!!!
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Dr. ISMAIL AK is a Professor of Psychiatry at a university in Turkey. His research interests include the following:
Personal Disorders, Agresivve behavior and self-mutilation, ECT, Substance-related disorders, Sexual Disorders, Forensic Psychiatry, Sleep Disorders
From the Turkish Association of Psychopharmacology website:
Professor Ismail AK, M.D. Head, Department of Psychiatry, KTU School of Medicine, Trabzon, Turkey
Ismail AK is Professor of Clinical Psychiatry at Head, Department of Psychiatry, KTU School of Medicine, Trabzon, Turkey
He is an experienced on clinical psychopharmacology of schizophrenia and bipolar disorders.
Dr. Ismail Ak is one of the authors of an article about patients with mental disorders, psychotic features, etc.:
As regards pharmacotherapies, 354 (50.2%) were given antidepressants. . . . Among antidepressants, Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) were 72.8%. . . .
Even though all psychiatric disorders do not have the same potential with regard to committing a crime, the number of individuals having psychiatric disorders is gradually going up depending on the increase of crimes and violent behaviors committed in a society. . . . The relation between existence of psychiatric disorder and crime behavior has been significantly emphasized in several earlier studies. In conclusion, it is notable that the rates of committing crime for the individuals with psychiatric disorders are on the rise.
Dr. Ismail Ak is apparently one of the world's leading experts on the psychiatry of antisocial and suicidal behavior, psychotic and bipolar disorders, psychopharmacological therapy, etc.
The young man had been noticed to be disturbed and had been referred to counseling. Dr. Ismail Ak is an expert and author in the particular field most directly related to the guy's disorder.
So it's possible that the writing on the guy's arm said
and the K was written in a way that people *thought* it said
That seems more likely to me than a connection to Moby Dick or to Islamic terrorism.
This is an angle the investigators need to pursue with the school's counseling service, the killer's computer, and Dr. Ismail Ak himself.
What a total idiot.
Perhaps Rosie should hold the university and its administrators liable if she refuses to hold the mass murderer accountable himself.
Seems like so many of these big news stories are littered with examples of just how mediocre our nation's standards for "higher education" have become.
This loser Cho is to Virginia Tech's English department what Mayor Ray Nagin is to Tulane University's MBA program.
Why? Will it satisfy some personal need you have? There is no evidence this has anything to do with islam or terrorism.
NY Times Lede Blog posted a quote from a guy who was in Cho’s drama writing class. He said the minute he heard about the tragedy he knew it was Cho. Apparently, the dude’s writing was so violent and his silence so creepy, students and professors were afraid to criticize his work during peer review. He also said he imagined that Cho was the school shooter type so far as to construct a plan in his head for what he would do when he showed up with gun.
The rich kids do not go to Virginia Tech. They go to UVA or America University. Seeing that Cho lived in Centreville, I guess everyone would appear rich to him.
I can’t understand how this disturbed individual was able to wound fifty people and kill thirty of them with a handgun. Those of us that shoot handguns know it’s not easy to score a hit on a (presumably) moving target, much less get rounds in the kill zone so many times. Was he trained? Even the police don’t shoot that well.
Did you find that out on your own?
I think we have a new “BUCKHEAD!!”
Sounds like a Quentin Tarantino wannabe. He should’ve gone to UCLA.
It’s funny how some people are so invested in having this perp fit their pre-conceived notions. Many Freepers seem desperate for an Islamic terrorism connection, while over at DU they were praying the guy would be a disgruntled vet who got denied treatment at Walter Reed. I guess “typical psycho” doesn’t satisfy.
“Will it satisfy some personal need you have?” Nicely bated question. My question is based on possible outside influence. So far he looks like a lone nut but anything is possible these days.
nonsporting first mentioned that there was a professor of psychiatry named Ismail AK, and then I took it from there and did the research.
From what I have read, many of the dead and wounded were hit multiple times so it was quantity over quality. I bet he shot most at point blank range while they were cowering on the ground.
The kid was a nutcase, but even now, the PC "protect his privacy" stuff trumps the public's right to know. About 15 years back, I had a guy in class who was similarly frightening. After I learned that he had threatened to butcher some female students while I was out of the room, I went to the dean of students and demanded action. To keep him out of my classroom, I was required to offer him an independent study course on my own time. I did it, of course, and he stayed in school until months later when he brought a gun into the classroom building and began threatening classmates with it. Frankly, I was amazed he was not allowed to kill someone before he was put out of school.
It’s interesting that he had a hatred of Catholics in addition to his other pathologies.
Ismail = Ishmael, the older son of Abraham, who supposedly was the father of all the Arab nations. No idea if that’s what he meant, but it gives one pause.
Everybody knew this guy was a loony-tune, but there's really no legal process in place that could have been used to get him the hell out of the classroom.
Did his plan call for showing up with a gun of his own?
Interesting, thanks for the info on what the Koran says of Ishmael. I didn’t know that.
If this is all true, this University is responsible for not acting on ALL of those signs.
That’s a great find, though I don’t care as much for the tagline.
They are vile and so are the people who have determined that he MUST be connected to Islam.
OK, I’ve changed it.
why say it at all?
All it tells me is that the killer was right-handed.
after reading the first play on thesmokinggun.com, I can’t imagine reading the one about the students. Whacked. He was completely and utterly whacked and the parents of the students have a right to be angry at the school on a variety of issues including not being more responsible about handling these sort of students. Where were the school couselors that this kid was sent to?
Kind of like Jim Webb's writing.
The Enemy knows the correct address.
I was totally not thinking Islam, until I heard of the word Ismail. Sorry, but it is logical to think there could be a connection when you see that, especially without knowing what the other poster posted about a Dr. specializing in anti-social behavior etc with an almost idential name.
Of course, there are also those who immediately assume it’s never terrorism....
I heard he had mud on his shoes from sneaking across the Rio Grande.
i think this was the child molester anger as he also references Michael Jackson. I initially chewed on this too until i saw the comments about jackson.
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