Posted on 04/18/2007 8:14:16 AM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
This guy should have been in the looney bin.
Negligence by the school...not so much the day of the shooting but the period leading up to the shooting, He:
1. Was taking pics of students in class
2. Many students refused to go to class they were so afraid of him
3. Eventually he was taken out of a class.
4. Teacher tried to get him to go to counseling described him as “most disturbed” kid she’s seen.
5. He also set fire to the dorm
6. Stalked 2 different women
7. Parents were afraid he was suicidal
Our permissive society is negligent not guns. Why was this kid not foreced to take counseling or expelled?
He should have been taken out back and had the s*** kicked out of him a long time ago.
Liberalism and multiculturalism are going to get us all killed.
Did PC have something to do with this? The students who complained were not taken seriously because the creep was an “Asian”. Many students were afraid to complain because they didn’t want to be accused of racism.
Simple. It is controlled by liberals.
As soon as I read that this psychopath had set a fire in his dorm room, and suffered no consequences, I had that sinking feeling. Cho's psychopathy was the proximate cause of the mass murder, but the ultimate cause was political correctness.
Agreed. I found this snippet from an article on MSNBC discussing a faculty member's interaction with the student:
"Roy said she warned school officials. "I was determined that people were going to take notice," Roy said. "I felt I'd said to so many people, 'Please, will you look at this young man?'"
VaTech is going to get sued like there was no tomorrow. Take it to the bank...
I'm not a big Michael Savage fan, but he is absolutely right when he says that "Liberalism is a mental disorder."
Not to mention that fact that he allegedly set a fire in his dorm. The guy was definitely criminally insane, but our system of dealing with mental illness does not allow locking someone up against their will. We just give them some pills and send them back into the community.
We had a mentally ill kid (a true sociopath) stalking our family for a few years. When it is a juvenile, it’s even more difficult. People in the community told us that we were making the situation worse by complaining to the police. The police were the only ones that took our complaints seriously, but said that there was little that they could do because of the juvenile laws.
Add perjury to Cho’s list of crimes. When you buy a gun you are required to certify that you have “[n]ever been committed to a mental institution?” on ATF Form 4473. Cho lied and the dealer sold him the gun(s). Another damn law that ain’t gonna fix what’s broken here, except maybe one telling VT that it will respect the CCW laws of the Commonwealth of Virginia and allow concealed carry on campus.
Would some lawyers weigh in here? I figured Tech was off the hook because of sovereign immunity.
Yes? No?
The French surrendered to him, too.
Colleges are not like high schools. They are no longer acting in loco parentis. That went away with student sit-ins in the 60's. Nowadays, colleges just let kids do their own things, for the most part, and it seems it is rare for a college to actually kick anyone out for anything other than not meeting a minimum required GPA.
well.......hmmmmmmmm, then if he is a student who better to know his character.Why not contact the school before selling this nut a firearm ??????????????
I hope so.
Total incompetance on the schools part handling this PRE shooting. The warning signs are beyond the pale in why they did not expel him and take legal actions against him.
You would have thought security would have been well aware of him at least and kept a close eye.
Maybe his parents money was all the school really cares about. Paying tuition is all that matters.
It’s easy to ask questions in hindsight. In reality, I can sympathize with those in authority at Virginia Tech who failed to remove the guy from campus. Fact is that it might have been much harder to do than it seems for us looking backwards.
1) Weirdness is not unusual in the college-age demographic. Campuses are full of oddness (and always have been).
2) Most of what this guy is said to have done is creepy, but not illegal. You gotta have cause to bring action against someone. He wouldn’t talk to people. He wrote nasty angry scary literature. He took pictures of people without their permission. He had an imaginary brother. He slept with the lights on. He wrote on walls. The stalking rumors seem to me to be the best ammo they had (pardon the sick pun), but little of this is actionable.
3) “He creeps me out” is a valid reason for staying away from someone, but not for kicking him out of school.
4) I watched the CNN interviews with his roommates last night. Horrific, frightening stuff, but it was a case of bits and pieces adding up to a scary picture in retrospect. This guy needed to be locked up, but even the psychiatrists interviewed said that there was not enough to have him committed.
As messed up and angry as this person was, had he been kicked off campus he would most likely have created carnage somewhere else.
If the question was regarding a mental institution, then, the liberals and the Brady Bunch have a whole lot of explaining to do...
Correct. My husband had a problem several years ago with a class. He provided the class with a digitized version of the material they would be covering in class and one student had a computer that wouldn't load the material. He went ballistic and demanded that he be given something different. He could have used the school computers like a lot of other students did, but no. He was Asian and my husband suspected he would cry racist, so spent the entire semester developing a separate version just for him. Teachers fear ethnic minorities because they are empowered to demand special considerations. It can be a big problem. But there are also many, many wonderful minority students who will go out of their way never to abuse anything a school might offer. I'm a student and my experience has been that there are far more of these students than the kind I mentioned above.
The section I quoted is directly from a current ATF Form 4473. Speaking of which, its time for me to go pickup my new pistol at the gun shop. Bye.
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