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Giuliani as the GOP presidential nominee would be a dagger in the heart of the conservative movement
(From a thread) | Credit to Spiff for the chart and flashbunny for the grapics

Posted on 04/22/2007 10:45:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Giuliani as the GOP presidential nominee would be a dagger in the heart of the conservative movement (and a knife in the back).

The only difference in a Liberal Rudy Giuliani and Liberal Hillary Clinton is the fact of which bathrooms they select to use and there are some who are willing to even question that.

Giuliani/Clinton/Dem vs. GOP Platform Comparison
Issue
Giuliani Clinton Dem Platform GOP Platform
Abortion on Demand Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Partial Birth Abortion SupportsOpposed NY ban Supports Supports Opposes
Roe v. Wade Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Taxpayer Funded Abortions Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Embryonic Stem Cell Research Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Federal Marriage Amendment Opposes Opposes Opposes
Defined at state level
Supports
Gay Domestic Partnership/
Civil Unions
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Openly Gay Military Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Defense of Marriage Act Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Special Path to Citizenship
for Illegal Aliens
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Tough Penalties for
Employers of Illegal Aliens
Opposes Opposes Opposes Supports
Sanctuary Cities/
Ignoring Immigration Law
Supports Supports Supports Opposes
Protecting 2nd Amendment Opposes

Opposes Opposes
Supports bans
Supports
Confiscating Guns Supports
Confiscated
as mayor.
Even bragged.
Supports Supports
Supports bans
Opposes
'Assault' Weapons Ban Supports Supports Supports  
Frivolous Lawsuits
Against Gun Makers
Supports
Filed One
Himself
Supports   Opposes
Gun Registration/Licenses Supports Supports   Opposes
War in Afghanistan Supports Supports
Voted for it
Supports Supports
War in Iraq Supports Supports
Voted for it
Supports
Weak support
Supports
Patriot Act Supports Supports
Voted for it
2001 & 2006
Opposes Supports



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008; electionpresident; elections; giuliani; grapics; liberal; liberalgop; rudyinadress; weasel
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1 posted on 04/22/2007 10:45:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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Who do you support Jim? Did I miss it in the last thread?


3 posted on 04/22/2007 10:49:37 PM PDT by colorcountry (He Who the Son Has Set Free, Is Free Indeed)
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To: Jim Robinson

Awesome. I just hope those that make the selection do it with eyes wide open. Otherwise this country will be in a world of hurt.


4 posted on 04/22/2007 10:49:53 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Jim Robinson

NOOOO!! Not another one!! We’re still trying to finish off the last one!! :)


5 posted on 04/22/2007 10:50:24 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Better a democrat with an energized opposition than a leftist “Republican” with no opposition.)
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To: Jim Robinson

(((((STOP RUDY 2008 PING)))))


6 posted on 04/22/2007 10:51:48 PM PDT by Doofer
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To: Jim Robinson

Good to see all of that in one place!


7 posted on 04/22/2007 10:52:19 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Jim Robinson

Let’s see what positions he takes for the executive office. If he is serious about strict constructionists on the supreme court then he is a very viable choice for any conservative. How many other candidates stand a chance to win PA, OH, NJ, etc?

His personal views should not be a barrier in allowing a liberal an easy walk into the WH.


8 posted on 04/22/2007 10:52:36 PM PDT by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: Jim Robinson
There, quite simply, would no longer be a connection between conservatives and the GOP. The GOP cannot survive without conservatives but I’m not sure the corollary is true.
9 posted on 04/22/2007 10:53:07 PM PDT by Prokopton
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No knife in the back. His history shows he’s a full fledged liberal, with the exception of tax cuts. If we allow him to win, we’ll deserve the gutting we get.

Fortunately, we have some pretty good options. Starting with Hunter, Thompson and Huckabee. If they all tank, we have Brownback and Romney and Tancredo. If they tank too, we get to choose from McCain and Rudy. Zoinks.


10 posted on 04/22/2007 10:53:13 PM PDT by pissant
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To: AZRepublican

Good grief. Give us a break from idiocy.


11 posted on 04/22/2007 10:53:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: colorcountry; jimrob

Jim SHOULD be supporting Hunter.


12 posted on 04/22/2007 10:54:03 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Jim Robinson

Daggers in the heart are bad.

Folks better be watching out for the poison in the cup, too...


13 posted on 04/22/2007 10:55:14 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Laws that infringe on unalienable rights are not laws at all...they are in fact lawless edicts.)
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Agreed!

Hunter.


14 posted on 04/22/2007 10:55:29 PM PDT by colorcountry (He Who the Son Has Set Free, Is Free Indeed)
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To: AZRepublican

He just repeated that abortion “is a constitutional right” two weeks ago. His version of a strict constructionist ranges from Scalia to Ginsberg. Not too promising.


15 posted on 04/22/2007 10:57:06 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant
Jim SHOULD be supporting Hunter.

Until Thompson enters the race. : )

16 posted on 04/22/2007 10:57:06 PM PDT by Prokopton
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>Good grief. Give us a break from idiocy.

It’s not idiocy when considering the realities facing us in 08. I am all for dumping Rudy if I had any confidence a true conservative had a shot of wining the States that will need to be won.


17 posted on 04/22/2007 10:57:11 PM PDT by AZRepublican ("The degree in which a measure is necessary can never be a test of the legal right to adopt it.")
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To: pissant

This is the pledge we should make:

I will do whatever I can to campaign for a conservative in the primary season, with every fiber of my conservative being.

(I swiped that from ohioWfan, and it’s an excellent slogan).

Rudy, IMHO cannot pass the test. So, I am obligated to not campaign for him, but for one of the other much more conservatives out there.


18 posted on 04/22/2007 10:57:13 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you for another good thread.


19 posted on 04/22/2007 10:57:29 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Ž)
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To: Jim Robinson
I think that's an honest assessment, but if conservatives can't put up a candidate who can actually win the general election, what good are they to the party?

Seriously--if we're thinking people like Tancredo can win in November 08 against Hillary, the party as a whole would only be doing the smart thing looking elsewhere.

20 posted on 04/22/2007 10:58:27 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Anti-socialist Bostonian, Anti-Illegal Immigration Bush supporter, Pro-Life Atheist)
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