Posted on 05/02/2007 7:05:45 PM PDT by DieHard the Hunter
Yesterday, acting on a tipoff, animal control officers and police took the rogue dogs from a Manaia property.
The story made international headlines because a tiny Jack Russell terrier called George was badly mauled as he defended the children from the attack as they walked to a Manaia dairy on Sunday.
George was later put down because of his injuries.
But investigations yesterday by the Taranaki Daily News have revealed a horrifying new dimension to the menace of fierce dogs.
Stratford animal control officer Kieran Best says he's heard of methamphetamine (P) being fed to pitbulls, making them more aggressive and very unpredictable.
"I understand it commonly happens in Rotorua.
"I haven't seen a dog on P, but I've heard about it from drug squad police at conferences."
While he had not heard of P being given to dogs in Taranaki, "if it's happening elsewhere it's quite possible it could be happening here".
"The pitbulls I've had dealings with are naturally aggressive because of the type of people they are with. They keep pitbulls around because they don't like visitors, and one can only presume they have something to hide, that they are into crime and drugs.
"They are paranoid about officials visiting and the dog emulates the owner," Mr Best said.
While there is no suggestion the Manaia dogs were on P, an armed policewoman was on hand as they were cornered and loaded into a dog van.
Neither dogs nor owner resisted, South Taranaki District Council animal control manager Graham Young said. "We're 99% certain these dogs were responsible for Sunday's attack."
The owner signed over the dogs to the council, but may still face prosecution for the dogs' menacing behaviour.
George was so badly ripped apart in Sunday's attack as he protected his young charges that he had to be put down.
Since then, the STDC has been informed of four more pitbull-type unregistered dogs in Manaia.
Mr Young said the reported addresses would be visited and any unregistered dogs seized. "If they are pitbulls we will be seeking de-sexing and they won't be released until all our requirements have been met, including microchipping."
There have been four reported attacks by pitbulls in Manaia in two months.
Last night, the Sydney Morning Herald had George on its website, and the international news agency Associated Press had picked up the story.
George's owner, Alan Gay (69), said he had been receiving phone calls non-stop from relatives and media organisations since word got out of George's heroics. "The phone has been going since about half past seven this morning. Everytime I hang up it rings again. It's worn out, I might have to get a new one."
And, in another dog incident yesterday, residents called for help yesterday when two dogs, one of which was a pitbull, were left loose on an unfenced property in Banks St, New Plymouth.
Dog control officer Jim Aitken said the dogs were extremely aggressive towards him and he believed others would have been "gravely at risk" should anyone have approached the fiercely territorial dogs.
Armed police also attended the incident.
Mr Aitken was able to lock the dogs up on a fenced area on the property.
In Auckland, police have arrested a man over the attack by two pitbull dogs on two people on Saturday.
The pitbulls were destroyed after attacking eight-year-old boy Jackson Williams and 15-year-old girl Te Aro Pakuivi in Papakura.
A 36-year-old man is expected to appear in the Papakura District Court this morning. If found guilty, the penalty is a maximum of three years in prison or a $20,000 fine.
So now we learn that the scroats are feeding their Pit Bulls "P-Methamphetamine" to make them even fiercer. I didn't know that, but I'm not surprised. Thoroughly disgusted.
Imagine being an aggressive, otherwise-useless pit bull mungrel dog whose "master" is also his pusher. Hooked on "P" -- one of the most addictive drugs known. One hit is enough. And it is a drug that invites and encourages aggression. The dog would be wired 24x7, and would go thru withdrawal whenever "master" didn't give him his "hit"...
(Now, I am not talking about the sort of dog Kanawa owns: that's a whole 'nuther dog. I am talking about truly dangerous "pit bull" dogs, bred by gangstas to be dangerous weapons.)
P-Methamphetamine makes people 3x as strong as they normally could ever be. A scroat on P-Meths can break handcuffs quite easily. It takes three ordinary folk -- at least -- to overpower a P-Meth scroat. This happens because P-Meths takes a huge toll on the human body, sucking power and life from it until there is no more to give.
Now imagine doing that to a dog. Not just any dog, but a dog that has been deliberately bred to be a dangerous weapon.
Such a dog would be dangerous 24x7, even at a distance.
I cannot think of a more inhumane way to treat an animal. I'm thoroughly disgusted and very very angry.
Anybody who treats any dog -- even pit bulls -- like that should be shot with a flame-thrower and incinerated. This sick, sorry world does not need people like that around. And, of course, the dog should also be immediately destroyed by humane means. Probably it would be too dangerous to approach close enough to give it the needle. A machine gun or a Mills bomb would work, in a pinch. But no way in Texas should any vetrinary get anywhere near it.
So what’s the rest of the story? Who are these folks who give “P” to dogs?
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Is P methamphetamine or the piperazine stimulant that’s legal in New Zealand (and illegal here).
> So what’s the rest of the story? Who are these folks who give “P” to dogs?
Gangstas. Scroats. People who use dogs as offensive weapons. The same sort of folk who do drive-by shootings in the US: guns are less-common DownUnder, but “pit bulls” are a superb weapon-of-choice.
Now by “pit bull” I am NOT talking about the sort of animal Kanawa owns: that is a whole ‘nuther type of dog. I am talking about dogs that are deliberately bred to be “lethal weapons”, of dodgy provenance. Any idiot can do this, and most of them that do, are.
Does your family have a “watch dog”, one that will bark at intruders? No worries for these scroats: drop a “pit bull” over the fence to dispatch your watch dog. It will be over in seconds. Burgle your house or Home Invade at will.
Wanna mug someone? Much easier to do with a “pit bull” as a weapon. If in a generous mood, keep the snarling dog on a chain and the frightened victim will happily hand over their wallet without the need for even one threat to be exchanged — just an empty hand indicating that it might be wise to hand over your hard-earned money, credit cards and ID.
You got a hand-gun, and a scroat at least 21 feet away? No worries for him: his “pit-bull” will have you much quicker than you can squeeze the trigger.
Have the scroats in the US not learned these tricks yet? I feel somewhat irresponsible then for bringing them to lite on the FRee Republic, a public forum. But it is probably in the best public interest that you know about the state-of-the-art scroat-hood.
In another article, you said you and your cohorts have no problem patrolling neighborhoods unarmed and are able to remove the guns from the all of the criminals without the use of guns in NZ....In Memphis, Tennessee, they call folks like that victims...
Unfortunately, I see what these "scroats" (I like your name for these miscreants) do with these animals often...
Sort of a moot point. It is illegal here and it is being used in epidemic proportions.
> Is P methamphetamine or the piperazine stimulant that’s legal in New Zealand (and illegal here).
P-Methamphetamine is a reasonably-new phenomenon in NZ — less than ten years. It was only made highly-illegal sometime after 2002. Decent ‘flu medicine, based on ephedrine or pseudoephedrine, has been very difficult to legally obtain ever since. It is now considered a “precursor” and attracts prosecution if found in any significant quantities.
BZP, or Benzylpiperazine, is still readily available over-the-counter at liquor stores, corner dairies (you’d call them “corner stores” like the 7-11), knock-shops (brothels) and places that sell sex-toys. Often called “herbal Ecstasy”.
News travels through the underworld quickly, I’m sure. I doubt you’re telling the scroats and gangstas anything they didn’t already know. The rest of us need to know though. Thanks for posting that.
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> In another article, you said you and your cohorts have no problem patrolling neighborhoods unarmed...
We train in the martial arts, first aid and CPR to do that, and we patrol at our own peril.
> ...and are able to remove the guns from the all of the criminals without the use of guns in NZ...
I am unaware of ever making that claim. Our SOP for guns is to find cover and call the Armed Offenders Squad if possible. We do train on taking away firearms as our worst case scenario, but doing this would certainly involve the risk of death.
> In Memphis, Tennessee, they call folks like that victims...
We’d call people who do this to keep other folks safe brave volunteers.
> Perhaps a boat horn, police whistle or a bucket of water will suffice for those in NZ to stop an attack by a pit bull on meth?
Nothing short of a flame thrower or a Mills bomb will reliably stop anything that is on P-Methamphetamine. The “P” dynamic is a brand-new one that is only just today coming to lite, and frankly it is frightening. That said, I suppose it shouldn’t come as much of a surprise. Our criminal element is infinitely resourceful and without morals or compunction, as we have seen.
> Unfortunately, I see what these “scroats” (I like your name for these miscreants) do with these animals often...
(grin!) I wish I could lay claim to the term. Its etymology rests with the NZ Police and originates as you may well imagine with the least attractive part of the male anatomy.
As a vetrinary you would probably agree that you would not want to get anywhere *near* a P-Meth Pit Bull with your needle. You’d be a very brave man if you did, and a very skillful one if you succeeded.
Thanks for the ping. Those psychopaths should be fed to their creations.
Those psychopaths should be fed to their creations.”
Sometimes their own kids get accidentally fed to the pits.
P is exacty what we call meth.
I admire bravery but walking around in many neighborhoods in Memphis, Tennessee, without any armed protection is suicide, especially if one is of a lighter colour of skin.
As for the drugging of dogs, I believe I have seen this but the "scroats" (love the term!!) are using Ritalin. I am sure they have discovered meth's unique ability to make a superdog because there are rings of dogfighters in the area. Word gets around fast.
Keep up the good work on your end of the world...
> P is exacty what we call meth.
Not quite sure about that, maybe it’s a terminology thing.
Methamphetamine, depending on the skill of the “cook” and the methodology he/she uses, comes in several flavors.
There is “Meth”, which is your bog-standard methamphetamine. It is often discolored, usually a yellowish or reddish hue, due to the constraints of manufacture. A nasty drug, dangerous as much for its impurities as for its potentcy. You have *no idea* what it is you are taking with simple “Meth”. Certainly you are getting an amphetamine of some description. Plus a bunch of other nasty chemicals.
There is “Crystal” Meths, which (depending on who you ask) is just one step beneath “Pure”. It tends to be almost transparent and nearly colorless. More expensive.
Then there is “P” or “Pure” Methamphetamine. Highly prized, a very dangerous and addictive drug. It is transparent, as the name implies. It is a multi-use drug: the same lot of “P” can be re-smoked many, many times. Instantly addictive: one hit is usually all it takes.
Why go to the trouble of going from 90% to 99.99% purity for the purpose of exciting a dog?
Thanks for the discription of different meths.. I didn’t know it came in varieties.. but it makes sense and you explanation was wonderful.
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