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House passes 'thought crimes' bill 237 to 180
OneNewsNow.com ^ | May 3, 2007 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 05/03/2007 1:02:59 PM PDT by EShellenberger

The House of Representatives has passed a bill that would punish offenders more severely if a criminal assault or murder could be proven to have been motivated by the attackers alleged hatred for the victim because of the victim's "sexual orientation," though that term is not defined in the legislation.

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A news release from the Family Research Council (FRC) called the legislation "a direct violation of the 14th Amendment which affords equal protection under the law."

Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, top Republican on the Judiciary Committee agreed.

"Our criminal justice system has been built on the ideal of equal justice for all," Smith said. "Under this bill justice will no longer be equal, but [will] depend on the race, sex, sexual orientation, disability or status of the victim."

FRC says the "Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2007," H.R. 1592, which passed by a vote of 237 to 180, would, "grant certain victims of crimes allegedly motivated by bias greater protection than other victims of violence.

"Criminalizing thoughts as well as actions, and creating special categories of victims is unconstitutional," said Tony Perkins, FRC president. "The actions of a majority of the House today undermine the promise of equal protection under the law guaranteed by the 14th Amendment.

"This legislation creates second-class victims and a legal system of 'separate and unequal,'" he added.

The Democratic chairman of the House Judiciary Committee defended the bill.

"It does not impinge on public speech or writing in any way," Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.)argued.

But Dr. James C. Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family, warned that the true intent of the bill was "to muzzle people of faith who dare to express their moral and biblical concerns about homosexuality." If you read the Bible in a certain way, he told his broadcast listeners, "you may be guilty of committing a 'thought crime.'"

Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) explained his opposition to the bill in a news release issued just after the vote was taken.

"The law should not distinguish between victims or levy higher penalties based on a criminal's supposed motive," Wilson wrote. "Our legal system was founded on the principle that justice is blind. It is our duty to uphold this standard."

But the South Carolina Republican also echoed Dobson's concerns.

"[C]ertain provisions of this bill would inhibit the free practice of religion and compromise First Amendment rights," Wilson explained. "For these reasons, I could not support this legislation."

Twenty-five Republicans crossed party lines to support the bill. Fourteen Democrats did the same to oppose it.

The White House issued a "Statement of Administration Policy" shortly before the vote indicating that President Bush might veto the legislation, if it passes the Senate and is sent to his desk.

"The Administration favors strong criminal penalties for violent crime, including crime based on personal characteristics such as race, color, religion, or national origin," the statement said. "However, the Administration believes that H.R. 1592 is unnecessary and constitutionally questionable. If H.R. 1592 were presented to the President, his senior advisors would recommend that he veto the bill."

The statement goes on to explain that the acts covered by the legislation are already illegal under the laws of all 50 states and that states have had no difficulty prosecuting such crimes. In addition, the White House notes that many states impose penalties for these crimes that are more severe than those proposed in the bill.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 110th; homosexualagenda; hr1592; moralabsolutes; unconstitutional
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"Criminalizing thoughts as well as actions, and creating special categories of victims is unconstitutional," said Tony Perkins, FRC president.

I hate the 237 weasels who voted for this travesty!

1 posted on 05/03/2007 1:03:02 PM PDT by EShellenberger
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To: EShellenberger
Liberals declare conservatism a hate crime. Film at 11.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 05/03/2007 1:04:49 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: EShellenberger
It'll pass the Senate too. ....probably with even less difficulty.

Chances the President signs the damn thing?

3 posted on 05/03/2007 1:08:01 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: EShellenberger

Which of the Weasels were Pubicrats????....Names Please....


4 posted on 05/03/2007 1:08:28 PM PDT by Postman
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To: EShellenberger

Wow! The Rats are pissing all over the Constitution!


5 posted on 05/03/2007 1:08:54 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (Liberals, A terrorists best friend!)
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To: EShellenberger
Three Cheers for the defenders of the Republic- sig heil, Sig Heil, SIG HEIL
6 posted on 05/03/2007 1:11:35 PM PDT by 11th Commandment
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To: EShellenberger
This LEFTIST bill is about controlling speech. Relatives tell me a similar bill passed in Canada and certain passages of the Bible, or even references to them, can not now be displayed in public.
7 posted on 05/03/2007 1:12:45 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: Postman; All

Here’s the vote.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll299.xml


8 posted on 05/03/2007 1:14:22 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: Postman
Which of the Weasels were Pubicrats????....Names Please....

We need names.

Give us names!

9 posted on 05/03/2007 1:14:25 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: EShellenberger
I hate the 237 weasels who voted for this travesty!

Careful, there - hatred of 'Rats will be the next "thought crime" to be defined by these budding commissars.

10 posted on 05/03/2007 1:14:44 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: EShellenberger

This is curious. I called my House rep and was told this bill had gone back to committee.


11 posted on 05/03/2007 1:15:30 PM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: EShellenberger

The Minority Report, 1984, and It Can’t Happen Here, all in one convenient legislative package.

Might as well dress it up a little and call it the Enabling Acts.


12 posted on 05/03/2007 1:15:33 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Mr. Mojo

IIRC, Bush has already said he’ll veto it. The House results are way short of a veto-proof majority, so for the time being, this travesty ought to be dead in the water.


13 posted on 05/03/2007 1:16:23 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (A member of the Frederalist Party)
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To: EShellenberger

Law can establish penalties for actions, not for thoughts, intentions or wishes. Any law that penalizes for thoughts, intentions or wishes is invalid.
Problem is that the whole judicial system is complicit and won’t accept what I just said. This means that the whole judicial system is corrupt.
Also, if you contacted your senator/congressperson, it was a waste of time. This law was going to be passed no matter what the people thought.


14 posted on 05/03/2007 1:19:26 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (democratic government becomes less democratic over time, and tends inexorably toward totalitarianism)
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To: jazusamo
Buncha RINO liberals:

Judy Biggert, Mary Bono, Mike Castle, Charlie Dent, Mark Kirk, the Diaz-Balart bros & Irena Ros-Lehtinen (Cuban trio = gay-friendly), English, Mike Ferguson, Rod Freylinghausen, Jim Gerlach, Wayne Gilchrest, Jim McCrery(?!), Frank LoBiondo, Ray LaHood, Kuhl, Platts, Jon Porter (?!), Deb Pryce, Dave Reichert, Saxton, Chrissy Shays, Greg Walden, Walsh.

Mostly from liberal states, though some of them are in many respects conservative.

Apologies to those whose first names I couldn't recall.

15 posted on 05/03/2007 1:22:49 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: Sunshine Sister
The residents of North and Central Texas might be happy to know that Chet Edwards, the “conservative” Democrat from Waco who represents Bosque, Brazos, Grimes, Hill, Hood, Johnson, Madison, McLennan, and Somervell Counties and part of Burleson, Limestone, and Robertson Counties voted for the suppression of free speech and the promotion of the perverts’ agenda. When the numerous Baptist and pentecostal and charismatic churches in the area place any anti-homosexual books in their libraries into the dumpster and note that their pastors will not speak out against this issue, perhaps some of the old line “yellow dog” Democrats will learn something. But I doubt it.
16 posted on 05/03/2007 1:24:12 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: EShellenberger

This will last about 2 days before the supreme court strikes it down for violating the equal protection clause.


17 posted on 05/03/2007 1:26:44 PM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: JohnnyZ

Doreen Vigue, a former co-host on WRKO used to push Hate Crimes by saying that “sexual Orientation”, “Race” etc, was “Added Value”. She would say that phrase slowly and clearly so us Troglodytes could absorb its profundity. Her assertion that those traits are “added value” over a cookie cutter White guy proves the violence that Hate Crime Laws do to the 14th Amendment.


18 posted on 05/03/2007 1:28:21 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: JohnnyZ
Buncha RINO liberals:

Exactly! Thanks for listing them.

19 posted on 05/03/2007 1:28:48 PM PDT by jazusamo (http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: JohnnyZ
We need names. Give us names!

Judy Biggert, IL-13
Mary Bono, CA-45
Mike Castle, DE-AL
Charles Dent, PA-15
Lincoln Diaz-Balart, FL-21
Mario Diaz-Balart, FL-25
Phil English, PA-3
Mike Ferguson, NJ-7
Rodney Freylinghouse, NJ-11
Jim Gerlach, PA-6
Wayne Gilchrist, MD-1
Mark Kirk, IL-10
John "Randy" Kuhl, NY-29
Ray LaHood, IL-18
Frank LoBiondo, NJ-2
Jim McCrery, LA-4
Todd Platts, PA-19
Jon Porter, NV-3
Deborah Pryce, OH-15
David Reichert, WA-8
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, FL-18
Jim Saxton, NJ-3
Chris Shays, CT-4
Greg Walden, OR-2
James Walsh, NY-25

Most all of them come from districts in blue states, or else from socially liberal districts that just happen to be in red states (i.e., LA-4, IIRC, contains part of New Orleans).

20 posted on 05/03/2007 1:28:56 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (A member of the Frederalist Party)
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