Posted on 05/10/2007 2:57:33 PM PDT by wastedyears
Don't know how many people have seen this movie, but what are your thoughts on something like it happening? If so, who would be involved? Also, how easy or hard would it be to fight them back, taking into consideration their manpower?
what are your thoughts on something like it happening?
It’ll never happen.
Not necessary, the invading forces are already pouring in without guns. They’re here to defeat our culture not our military.
I didnt understand that either.....
Carolyn
I agree that they made some moves towards reality, but oberall its a soap opera. The Brits do that type of grim apocalypsia tale so much better - check out The War game” or “Threads” for video examples. Even when they’re unrealistic, it is pl;ot silliness. The gritty details are fine.
As to literature, the Brits produced Death of Grass, the Triffids, The World in Winter, etc (they’’re just my favourites, though dated). Jericho’s makers could have read Alas Babylon and taken many good pointers on...also Resyrrection Day.
Ah well, it’s all fun, it just irritates me because if it had had a brutal real edge it would b an enduring classic not just a brief wonder.
I can't argue with that...
‘Jericho’ is to survival what West Wing was to the Whitehouse.
A liberal myth writ large. Took the town six months to wake up to the fact going without a firearm under such circumstances was hazzardous to your health.
Plus their patrols are so tight they fail to warn of 100 plus refugees staggering into town...plus they never bother guarding drugs, etc., let alone armed patrols for farms, gas and food storage, etc.
Everyone still acts like it’s a brief interruption to normal life.Actually, no, they’ve finally begun getting a little better.
But it still pisses me off that they finally started using candles - not as survival lighting but as ambient lighting 0- ie rooms chock full of candles which they’d cheerfully leave unattended despite the difficulties of fire control in post-apocalypse america. Also, no one seems to have trouble getting candles or fears that they might run up before they gear up to render their own.
We see it exactly the same way. Its ‘liberal survivalism’.
Which, if you think about it, tells you liberals can only survive in the society we’ve constructed in the last century.
Darwin’s theory comes into play, in short.
Androcles, you mentioned the Brits, but also there is a popular Australian book series about Australia being occupied by a foreign army (ethnicity/country of origin is never stated). It's for "young adults", but it's still one of my favorite book series - Tomorrow, When the War Began. Although it's not very realistic, I suppose; but it's like Red Dawn in which the scenario is very interesting.
I tried watching Jericho, but the characters drove me NUTS. They seemed ridiculously brainless. My mom and I couldn't stop laughing after a scene which I'm assuming was supposed to be dramatic. It was pretty melodramatic instead!
I’ve never seen Red Dawn but I know what you mean. As to the MArsden series, I’ve read them all so far and enjoyed them. While they’re unrealistic (re their success rate),, the basics are reasonably realistic especially in terms of the horror and the way that even in the peace their pretty world has been broken beyond redemption.
Jericho is fun, but as I’ve already said they are morons who don’t deserve to survive.
We’re of a like mind on these.
As for the Chinese invading the US, try Eric Harry’s exciting novel INVASION, about a hypothetical future Chinese invasion. It’s speculation, but a great read nevertheless.
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I liked the movie but didn’t really believe in the premise back then because of MAD and nukes. I see a scenario similar to the plot of V for Vendetta as a more plausible reality using the war on Terror and War on Drugs type things to move towards fascism, but I’d replace the persecuted classes in V with Libertarians and Christians. I could see us living in a V for Vendetta type Facist Autocracy within 10 years.
From this post: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1846894/posts
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“But ambitious encroachments of the federal government, on the authority of the State governments, would not excite the opposition of a single State, or of a few States only. They would be signals of general alarm... But what degree of madness could ever drive the federal government to such an extremity.”
— James Madison (Federalist No. 46, 29 January 1788)
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And one of the replies included this:
“At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.”
- The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume I, “Address Before the Young Men’s Lyceum,of Springfield, Illinois (January 27, 1838), p. 109.
Often as not a seige is successful because someone inside unlocked the gate.
Wow, my thread grew :)
Or has accepted the trojan horse gift, hook ,line and sinker.
It would take at least 10 times the D-Day forces at Normandy to invade the US on any coast, and a handful of paratroopers dropping in to Colorado is beyond ridiculous. The only overland invasion route with a remote chance of any penetration is through Mexico, and it would take a lot more than the D-Day resources to sustain it.....
Except that the Germans had fortified every inch of coastline, stationed troops at the waters edge, and had a mobile armored reserve ready to counterattack. I think the statistic was that D Day consisted of 1 million troops in the first six days of the invasion. I think it would take far less than the ten times D Day invasion force to invade America today. Plus the Germans had no rules of engagement to speak of. Wow, can you imagine how hamstrung our troops would be today.
As an amateur historian, I think this is a fascinating tangent discussion. Let me know what you think.
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Impractical. The government has enough weapons in storage for almost every US citizen to fight back an invasion. It would also be obvious as hell that someone was to invade because of the buildup it would require, ie. movement of troops, equipment, etc.
More than once I’ve thought of loading a skid of M14’s onto the back of my truck at the local armory and heading for the hills. Sadly, I just can’t see the gubmint turning those guns loose to us peasants to fight the invaders. Thats for the army, you know.
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If you’re lookin’ for a foreign enemy military, the add UN troops invited in for “pacification” and “peacekeeping.”
I am hoping for french peacekeepers in my town. Oh, the a$$ whooping they will get.
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