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Can the G.O.P. Accept Giuliani’s Abortion Stance?
New York Times ^ | May 11, 2007 | By ROBIN TONER

Posted on 05/10/2007 8:37:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

It is one of the enduring features of the modern Republican Party: Since the rise of Ronald Reagan and the empowerment of the social conservatives, the party has formally stood in firm opposition to a constitutional right to abortion and the Supreme Court decision that established it.

Yes, there were always Republicans who broke with party orthodoxy on the issue, from New England moderates like Senator Olympia J. Snowe of Maine to pragmatists like Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger of California. But the party’s platform, if anything, grew less pliant on abortion over the years. And the party invariably nominated presidential candidates who embraced, rather than challenged, the full “pro life” position. (Just as the Democrats did, on the “pro choice” side.)

Now, with Rudolph W. Giuliani one of the front-runners for the Republican nomination, the question inevitably arises: Is the party moving on this issue, ready for more flexibility? Can a supporter of abortion rights, even one with caveats and qualifications, make it to the top of the Republican Party in 2008?

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In the past, such a position brought a quick and determined push back from the party’s social conservatives. Candidates lacking strong anti-abortion credentials, in fact, rarely made it to the top tier. Party moderates regularly tried over the years to soften the Republican platform, and were just as regularly beaten back.

The Republican abortion plank endured: “The unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed,” and the party is committed to supporting the appointment of judges “who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; elections; giuliani; no; prolife
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“The vast majority of Republican members of Congress are pro-life,” Mr. O’Steen said. “Polls show the vast majority of Republican voters are pro-life. These are the same voters, the same party, the same party platform — and that won’t be helpful to Mr. Giuliani.”

Anti-abortion leaders say that if anything, their movement is resurgent — with a round of recent victories in the courts and the state legislatures — and that they are confident it will exert its power in 2008, just as it has in every other presidential campaign for three decades.

If Mr. Giuliani endures, in short, he will be bucking an awful lot of history.


1 posted on 05/10/2007 8:37:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Nope.


2 posted on 05/10/2007 8:38:40 PM PDT by gidget7 (2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:)
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The next question would be, can the GOP survive Giuliani?


3 posted on 05/10/2007 8:39:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Our God-given unalienable rights are not open to debate, negotiation or compromise!)
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t know but if he wins it will be without my vote.


4 posted on 05/10/2007 8:39:58 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: Jim Robinson

Wonder when Robin will write a similar article about the Democratic party and its reluctance to nominate a Presidential candidate who doesn’t toe their line on abortion.


5 posted on 05/10/2007 8:40:23 PM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: Jim Robinson
No.

Also, he has created too much bad will with the base lately.
6 posted on 05/10/2007 8:40:51 PM PDT by elizabetty ("Al Gore doesn't need to reduce his carbon footprint, he needs to reduce his carbs!" Mitt Romney)
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To: Jim Robinson

The GOP? Maybe. Conservatives? Not a chance.


7 posted on 05/10/2007 8:40:55 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: Jim Robinson

NO.


8 posted on 05/10/2007 8:41:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A [Free] Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Jim Robinson

And NO.


9 posted on 05/10/2007 8:41:43 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("A [Free] Republic, if you can keep it.")
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Can the G.O.P. Accept Giuliani’s Abortion Stance?
10 posted on 05/10/2007 8:41:57 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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No.


11 posted on 05/10/2007 8:42:01 PM PDT by Kitten Festival
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Can the G.O.P. Accept Giuliani’s Abortion Stance?

no

12 posted on 05/10/2007 8:42:45 PM PDT by do the dhue (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I wont - George S. Patton Jr)
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13 posted on 05/10/2007 8:43:13 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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I don’t know but if he wins it will be without my vote.

Same here.

14 posted on 05/10/2007 8:43:26 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Jim Robinson

The RINO gets MY “NO”!


15 posted on 05/10/2007 8:43:44 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Constitutional and social conservative.)
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Absolutely not. He’s toast. No way he can back out of it now.


16 posted on 05/10/2007 8:45:06 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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I don’t know but if he wins it will be without my vote.

If I ever do cast a vote for Guliani, it will certainly be in a general election and definitely not in a primary. I sincerely hope that it will never come to that.

17 posted on 05/10/2007 8:46:44 PM PDT by Bob
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Der, nope.
Pro-life encompasses so much more than just abortion...It’s about human dignity, responsibility, and family, and connects to everything we conservatives hold dear.
18 posted on 05/10/2007 8:47:13 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (<--- "Crazy Aunt" Conservative)
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To: Jim Robinson

If he hadn’t been such a weasel about his true position on abortion in the past few weeks, he would have more credibility. All this talk about judges like Alito and such.

Now he’s ready to “reveal” his true position. I don’t like his true position but I would have had more respect for him had he just come out and said it from the beginning.

As someone who greatly admires the turn-around New York City experienced under his administration, I am disappointed that he would try to be so much like Hillary from the get-go.

I like Rudy, but the bottom line: Stick a fork in him, he’s done.


19 posted on 05/10/2007 8:47:41 PM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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Can the G.O.P. Accept Giuliani’s Abortion Stance?

No.

20 posted on 05/10/2007 8:48:07 PM PDT by Barnacle (Hunter, Thompson, Gingrich, Tancredo, whoever. Just vote Conservative.)
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