Posted on 05/11/2007 8:49:53 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
Your premise is false. He did not blame us.
Thank you, sir.
We already did. It's the 14th amendment. The Supreme Court must rule that abortion deprives unborn persons of life without due process.
Abortion is always wrong. Leaving it up to the states would be like leaving slavery up to the states.
Passing an Amendment lays it out once and for all. As the father of two beautiful kids, I'd support such an Amendment. Doing it the way we are currently doing it is unConstitutional and actively dangerous to the protections for our other liberties.
Don't kill the patient curing the disease.
Amendments are politically impossible. We don't need to convince a supermajority. We only need to convince one more Supreme Court Justice.
Come on. You can do better than that.
Also, your "I don't care how badly it violates the Constitution as long as my pet legislation/judicial decision gets through" is part of the reason this country is so screwed up right now. Not a good thing.
My argument does not violate the Constitution at all. It is based entirely on the 14th amendment. Should slavery be left up to the states too?
Look, I'm all for an Amendment abolishing abortion. It is the LEGAL, Constitutional, and honest way to get it done. Anything less throws the baby out with the bathwater. In this case, possibly literally...
Slavery had to be abolished by amendment because it was previously protected by the Constitution. Abortion has never been protected by the Constitution, therefore a Constitutional amendment is not required to abolish it.
Pass an Amendment. It isn't that hard to understand.
we already did. The 14th amendment authorizes the federal government to prevent states from depriving any person of life or liberty without due process. Should the unborn have less rights than black people? Should the unborn have less rights than illegal aliens? No. Do states have the power to deprive the unborn of their right to life? No. Not any more than they have the power to deprive you of your guns.
She’s not much of a leader....
That is finding an emanation in a penumbra. State it plain. Get an Amendment.
Life is life. That's not any emanation.
Pass an Amendment.
Keep talking if you want, but I'm done replying to those with their fingers jammed firmly in their ears...
I see these areas as enumerated in the Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment.
-- Many here do not. Feel free to tell me why not.
Tailgunner joe:
The 14th amendment prohibits states from depriving persons of life without due process. This should extend to unborn persons as well.
It does. Unborn people are protected by state laws against murder. Murder should be prosecuted.
Allowing states to have legal abortion is just as immoral as allowing states to have legal slavery, exactly what the 14th amendment was meant to prohibit.
The 13th abolished slavery. The 14th reiterated that States are bound by the Constitution to protect our rights to life, liberty or property.
Should the unborn have less rights than black people? Should the unborn have less rights than illegal aliens?
Born or unborn, all people have the same inalienable rights. Illegal aliens are denied the privileges and immunities of US citizens.
The Madisonian Dilemma
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>> there are nonetheless some things majorities must not do to minorities, some areas of life in which the individual must be free of majority rule. <<
I see these areas as enumerated in the Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment.
— Many here do not. Feel free to tell me why not.
>> Why not prohibit a dangerous evil?
If every drinker is a potential alcoholic, every drug-user a future addict, and every gun-owner a potential killer, why not ban them all?
There is no defense against this logic except to challenge the lies that sit at the root of the arguments.
Those are the lies promoted by the prevailing propaganda in support of all Prohibition.
We cannot oppose one and support the other. To do so undermines our efforts because all these movements walk on the same legs.
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Connecting the War on Guns & Drugs [my title]
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This is the logical core of the article above.
- Prohibitional power has never been granted to any level of government, federal/state or local.
Governments are limited to legally reasonable regulatory powers by the basic principles of our constitution.
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