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Pro-Life Leader Endorses Ron Paul
Ron Paul 2008 ^ | May 10, 2007

Posted on 05/11/2007 8:49:53 PM PDT by The_Eaglet

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To: lvmyfrdm
Ron Paul has earned much respect across the political lines and true Conservaties, Liberatrians, Democrats and Reformed Neo cons ... and Constitutionalists, Republicans, and independents.
41 posted on 05/12/2007 11:29:03 AM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: Dead Corpse
Article I, Section 8 of the United States Constitution, in relevant part: "The Congress shall have the Power.....To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the Several States, and with the Indian Tribes."

The Interstate Commerce Clause requires neither the allowance nor the prohibition of interstate commerce but empowers Congress to regulate the same. Congress is free not to regulate, free to regulate, free to prohibit or free to require such commerce as it sees fit. Such was the state of the law at the outset before the Bill of Rights and its Second Amendment prohibited "infringement" upon the right of the people to keep and bear arms. The Second Amendment, having been enacted after the original Constitution, would, under ordinary rules of judicial construction be deemed to modify or overturn any conflicting previous provision to the extent necessary to effectuate the policy of the latter enactment.

Kelo vs. New London had nothing whatever to do with Interstate Commerce but instead with whether eminent domain and "takings" clauses could be employed to the benefit of private developers who want to have gummint seize private property for their purposes on the excuse that tax revenues will be augmented. SCOTUS got it wrong as usual since SCOTUS seems incapable of reading the relevant constitutional provisions.

PaleoPaulie is a pseudoconstitutional ignoramus posing as an authority. If paleoPaulie happens to be right on something (like the proverbial stopped watch being right twice a day), he has no idea of how to effectuate the policies he thinks the constitution stands for. PaleoPaulie is a dangerous moonbat on matters of foreign policy and war and nothing vaguely resembling a conservative on either. PaleoPaulie is living history in the sense that he is living proof of why paleowhateverism died a merciful death on December 8, 1941, when the original paleos (Colonel MacCormack, John Flynn, Charles Lindbergh, et al.) threw in the towel, publicly folded their collective America First tent and publicly recognized that they too were at war with Imperial Japan and then with Germany and Italy in the next few days. Of course, they were patriots unlike the craven modern neo-Chamberlains who love nothing more than sticking their heads in the sand and their derrieres in the air and hoping that wishing the baaaaaaad men to just go away will work as foreign policy. If Houston is the target of an effective terrorist attack, I look forward to paleoPaulie groveling on his knees and doing verbal contortions to escape responsibility on behalf of the paleowimps. Maybe he can join with Nancy the Facelift and hold a joint press conference to tell joint lies in that event.

On a matter far more important that paleoPaulie's McGovernite foreign policy heresies, paleoPaulie's defection from the pro-life ranks on the important bills cited further chips away from the legend of paleoPaulie as a pro-lifer or as a conservative. If he will not even defend the innocent babies, why should any conservative be caught dead or alive voting for him.

42 posted on 05/12/2007 11:57:37 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: The_Eaglet

Big difference? The baby is killed no matter who pays for the abortion.


43 posted on 05/12/2007 12:04:07 PM PDT by conservative blonde (Let's call the Jr. Senator from Illinois by his full name, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: conservative blonde
I don't think Giuliani would support H.R. 776 [109th]: Sanctity of Life Act of 2005. Ron Paul obviously would.
44 posted on 05/12/2007 12:10:11 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: The_Eaglet

I don’t think there is anything “obviously” that Ron Paul would accept. He is a loose canon.


45 posted on 05/12/2007 4:23:19 PM PDT by conservative blonde (Let's call the Jr. Senator from Illinois by his full name, Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: conservative blonde

He wrote the bill.


46 posted on 05/12/2007 7:48:42 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: bnelson44
He suggests, Trutherifically, that the US will phony up a fake attack by Iran on our troops (probably killing Americans, as we may have done on 9/11) in order to have a pretext to bomb the mullahs. So, you know, if Iran actually does fire on American warships, his supporters will know it’s actually all a contrivance by the US government. (As was Iran’s taking of British hostages, presumably. As was the Khobar Towers bombing, presumably.)

Hate to give creedence to Rosie and the Truthers, but history is on their side. Our government has done that on at least two occasions. And lest we forget, Clinton was not shy about wagging the dog.

That said, there's a difference in simulating an attack (Gulf of Tonkin), shameful as it is and deliberately killing thousands of Americans. And then to build your case on "fire doesn't melt steel" is well... kind of kooky.

47 posted on 05/12/2007 7:56:01 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: All

RON PAUL Rep. Paul was the Libertarian Party nominee in 1988. His libertarian views have conflicted with his pro-life stance on many occasions. From 2005 - 2006, Paul had just a 56 percent pro-life voting record as he voted four times against a federal law protecting teenagers from being taken to other states for secret abortions in violation of the parental notification or consent laws of their home state. In previous years, Mr. Paul had a 73 percent, 81 percent, and 79 percent voting record going back to 1999, according to the National Right to Life Committee. He doesn’t think federal law should cover abortion issues. He opposes using taxpayer funding for both embryonic and non-embryonic stem cell research. (LIFENEWS.com)

More about all of the GOP presidential candidates re: LIFE here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1832317/posts


48 posted on 05/12/2007 10:25:36 PM PDT by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there.)
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To: Lexinom

Nor should it {your Gopvernment} object, when those Slaves of “Yours” do any of the following...

Revolt, Riot, Strike, or Run away.


49 posted on 05/13/2007 12:34:17 AM PDT by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: Sun
In this High Tech age, a Libertarian Congress {as described in the “Probability Broach” Novels by L.Neil Smith} would be possible.

It would be possible for Congressfolks to echo an actual number of loyal Followers. Voters that don’t like a Stand, taken by their “Rep” could switch to supporting any specific other Congressperson.

WEIGHTED Congressional votes.

“on This Issue, I represent X number of voters from My District and Y number of voters from Other Districts”.

Congressfolk with larger Y than X numbers would get Major PRESS!

50 posted on 05/13/2007 12:48:14 AM PDT by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: PizzaDriver

I like your views on weighted probabilities. As an abstract concept it is underutilized in popular thought...


51 posted on 05/13/2007 12:55:44 AM PDT by Lexinom (http://www.gohunter08.comĀ)
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To: BlackElk

Bleat bleat little sheep. Keep on justifying more government power grabs.


52 posted on 05/13/2007 9:14:28 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse

Your screen name is an accurate description of the utter obselescence of paleopoopandscoopery as a political force in America. Libertarianism is becoming a sorry joke as well.


53 posted on 05/13/2007 11:49:02 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Dead Corpse
I note that, by silence, you also concede the constitutional matters presented in #42. Clue: The constitution says what it means and means what it says. Libertarians, like liberals, imagine that the constitution is a "living document" ever morphing into their respective heresies du jour. Are there libertoonians who might like to have twelvesomes with barnyard animals? Well, then, the founding fathers must have made that a fundamental constitutional right if the libertoonians wish it so.

Power grabs, your Aunt Minnie's backside! If paleolibertoonians were not so welded onto the need to lose wars, they might have time to consider the net results of their love affair with liberals on baby-killing and sexual perversions.

Joe McCarthy died for our political sins.

54 posted on 05/13/2007 11:56:11 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian; Austin Willard Wright; George W. Bush
Pro-life leaders divided on Romney
55 posted on 05/13/2007 1:12:32 PM PDT by The_Eaglet
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To: BlackElk

Stop trying to make a joke of the Constitution and we’ll stop having issues.


56 posted on 05/13/2007 1:22:05 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: BlackElk
Silence? No. Only that I have a life offline.

The constitution says what it means and means what it says.

Exactly. Until you Amend it to include other duties, don't go expanding the ones listed to suit your personal preferences. It doesn't work like that. Or, at least, it isn't supposed to. Decades of morons just like you trying to expand government power outside the channels provided has done a number of bad things to the protections for our Rights as well as government "mission creep".

You keep tossing "paleolibertoonians" like it means something. Should I start referring to extra-Constitutionalist Federalists like you as RINO's? It fits after all...

57 posted on 05/13/2007 1:25:29 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: BlackElk; Dead Corpse
Dead Corpse is correct...the Commerce Clause was a power given to the new federal government by the states solely for the purpose of giving the federal government the power to prohibit any one state from erecting barriers to free trade...in other words, to give the federal government the power to create a free trade zone among the 13 states.

A great analysis of the real (and very limited) scope of the Commerce Clause can be found in Clarence Thomas' concurrence in U.S. v. Lopez

J. Thomas-US v. Lopez

As to the 2nd Amendment...or any Amendment...you can never put too much stock in the Amendments because you have to remember the political context of the ratification process. In late 1787 and early 1788, the Federalists were prevailing in every state ratification convention. The Anti-Federalists were seeking ways to reverse the successes of the Federalists and the two key political tactics they used were to (1) call for the second Constitutional Convention where issues they had with the Constitution could be further debated and addressed and (2) to seek to convince those on the fence about whether to ratify the Constitution that it was defective without a Bill of Rights.

The Federalists, who were more far politically skilled than the Anti-Federalists (who, for the most part lacked a stong, skilled political leader) pulled the rug out from under the second Anti-Federalist objection when they agreed to add a Bill of Rights. But, the Bill of Rights only applied to the federal government. So, the federal government could not abridge free speech...or infringe on the people's right to bear arms...or to engage in unreasonable searches and seizures, etc. The Bill of Rights did not apply to the state governments and it wasn't until the 20th century that activist courts first created the fiction that the 14th Amendment "incorporated" the Bill of Rights against the states

58 posted on 05/14/2007 7:17:13 AM PDT by Irontank (Ron Paul for President)
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To: elizabetty

As would any limited government, states rights conservative. Simply the issue is not a decision nor a problem for the federal government


59 posted on 05/14/2007 7:19:26 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: billbears
Simply the issue is not a decision nor a problem for the federal government

You are talking about ideals versus reality. The fact that the federal government is involved means people who REALLY care about the unborn will work within that framework to save their lives.
60 posted on 05/14/2007 7:24:48 AM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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