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Giuliani takes on Christian right over abortion
Gulf Times. Qatar ^ | May 14, 2007 | AFP

Posted on 05/14/2007 12:15:07 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

WASHINGTON: Republican presidential frontrunner Rudolph Giuliani yesterday appealed to the centre-ground of US politics on the polarising issue of abortion, and restated his opposition to an early pullout from Iraq. The former mayor of New York, who shot to global prominence after the September 11 attacks of 2001, staked out his own dislike of abortion but said he supported a woman’s right to choose.

“I personally oppose it but I believe that that should be a choice that someone else gets to make,” Giuliani, who is Roman Catholic, said on Fox News Sunday. That is a stand that will almost certainly lose him votes from the Christian right in next year’s primary elections to choose the Republican party’s candidate to succeed President George W Bush.

But Giuliani believes that his stand will resonate with most Americans, who polls show to be against rolling back the Supreme Court’s landmark “Roe v Wade” ruling permitting abortion even if they personally oppose the practice.

He said he was trying “to broaden the base of the Republican party” as issues surrounding terrorism and the economy “are so important that we have to have the biggest outreach possible.”

The former New York leader is also under fire from Christian conservatives over his moderate positions on gay marriage and gun control, and his personal life – he has been married three times.

But Giuliani, who has pulled ahead of rival 2008 contender and Arizona Senator John McCain, said he should be judged on his record from the aftermath of 9/11 and for ridding New York of rampant crime and economic decline.

“Nobody’s perfect. I’ve made mistakes in my life. I’ve prayed about them,” he said. “In my case, you can judge me on my public record.”

(Excerpt) Read more at gulf-times.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; elections; giuliani; prolife
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1 posted on 05/14/2007 12:15:10 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
"staked out his own dislike of abortion but said he supported a woman’s right to choose."

You can't have it both ways numbnuts.

2 posted on 05/14/2007 12:20:18 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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Giuliani again took on Democrats who want an early withdrawal from Iraq. The party in control of Congress is locked in battle with Bush over a war funding bill that the president has vowed to veto. “Anybody proposing giving the enemy a timetable of our retreat is proposing something that is fundamentally irresponsible and something that is unheard of in the history of war,” he said. “And giving them a timetable of our retreat puts the troops there in jeopardy and it puts the whole strategy (against terrorism) in jeopardy.” – AFP

Also from the cited source.

3 posted on 05/14/2007 12:20:24 AM PDT by IslandJeff (Who the hell are we gonna nuke!?)
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“Nobody’s perfect. I’ve made mistakes I'm still making mistakes in my life.”

There it's fixed...

4 posted on 05/14/2007 12:23:15 AM PDT by Doofer (Run Fred Run........)
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To: IslandJeff
There is no basic difference between all the Republicans running for POTUS, except for Ron Paul. They all support the Bush doctrine and don't believe we should create a time table for withdrawal from Iraq. So Rooty has nothing on the other candidates in that regard.

Exactly what other issues do you think a liberal like Giuliani can be trusted on?

Rooty can't be trusted to support limited govt. We know Rooty supports gun control and an assault weapons ban. Flip flops and nuances aside, we know Rooty supports abortion on demand as a constitutional right and has always opposed a ban on partial birth abortion. And his support for gay rights and amnesty for illegals is well documented.

What do you support in Rooty`s liberal agenda?

5 posted on 05/14/2007 12:39:12 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: miliantnutcase

Why not? There are people that oppose the death penalty, yet they support the state’s right to execute criminals. There are people that are one religion, yet they support other’s rights to freedom of religion. Ther probably are many instances of someone personally opposing something, yet supporting the current laws.


6 posted on 05/14/2007 12:40:08 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr
It’s too convenient for him to say that. The statement was purely to appease.
7 posted on 05/14/2007 12:54:32 AM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: stuartcr
I see you've been thoroughly hoodwinked by Giuliani's liberal double talk and his penchant for moral relativism. Abortion is not just any issue. Its an issue of life versus death. The position that Rudy takes is the same position that all liberals take. The same position the Clinton's take, along with John Kerry, Ted Kennedy and the other leftwingers who populate the Democratic Party.

The Republican Party is the life party. Been that way since Reagan in 1980. If both parties are for abortion and death, then the GOP will die off as a major political influence.

8 posted on 05/14/2007 12:55:13 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: miliantnutcase

That may be true, I have no idea. My comment was on those people that oppose something, yet support the current laws.


9 posted on 05/14/2007 1:17:28 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Reagan Man

I haven’t listened to much that he has said. My comment was on those that oppose something, yet support the current laws.

I personally am against the taking of human life, but I also understand that depending on the circumstances, taking a human life can be justified/unjustified, required/unnecessary, expeditious, murderous, abhorrent, etc. I believe it is between one’s self, the law and God.


10 posted on 05/14/2007 1:30:41 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Guiliani takes on Christian Right over Abortion

Guiliani doesn't really want to be president.

11 posted on 05/14/2007 2:49:55 AM PDT by Frwy (Eternity without Jesus is a hell-of-a long time.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Great way to get elected, start out by disenfranchising a large strong segment of the party.


12 posted on 05/14/2007 3:02:19 AM PDT by Joe Boucher
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To: miliantnutcase

Speaking out of both sides of his mouth again. He still no different from Clinton, Obama, or Edwards on the abortion issue, close on gun-control. Unforgivable.


13 posted on 05/14/2007 3:38:58 AM PDT by Baladas
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To: Frwy

Guiliani doesn’t really want to be president.
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Guiliani : not so bold prediction... “Once I get the matching funds I’m outta here!”


14 posted on 05/14/2007 3:39:58 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Jim Robinson; Liz; TommyDale
I would hardly call Rudy's postions moderate. Rudy is a full fledged liberal.

Rudy says, "Nobody's perfect. I've made mistakes in my life. I've prayed about them. In my case you can you can judge me on my public record".

So I guess this means Rudy prayed and God gave him the go ahead to keep making mistakes.

No thanks, Rudy, you must have been praying to some other God, your private life and public record are a disgrace to mankind and an abomination to God.

Seems it pretty well disqualifies Rudy for the GOP nomination!

15 posted on 05/14/2007 3:54:31 AM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: stuartcr

The problem is, Rudy went beyond merely stating that he supported current law, he stated that he supported abortion for other people. That’s different than just saying he is against it, but would uphold the law as stands.

His statement means he either sees others as not being afforded the same level of humanity as himself, or that he’s lying about his abhorance of abortion. Either one is not good and not GOP presidential material.


16 posted on 05/14/2007 4:05:49 AM PDT by kenth (I got tired of my last tagline...)
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To: indylindy
Rudy must have been praying to some other God.....his private life and public record are a disgrace to mankind and an abomination to God.....pretty well disqualifies Rudy for the GOP nomination!

Guy spins back and forth so fast----posing as a conservative then showing his liberal colors-----must be wearing wheelies.

Rooty Campaign Central's official wheelies.

17 posted on 05/14/2007 4:17:50 AM PDT by Liz (Rudy Giuliani: Guinness World Record for Having The Most Positions on Abortion.)
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To: Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; TenthAmendmentChampion; ...

At a recent Ghouliani speech:

Ya knowz what I’M gunna do to youz steenkin
Christians if youz don’t vote for ME?!?! Huh?!

Foist, I’M gunna cut a hole in da back uh ya heads!!!
Den, I’m gunna suck all ya brains out!!!

DATZ what I’M gunna dooz!!!
I’M gunna abort da whole bunch uh youz!


18 posted on 05/14/2007 4:30:50 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: Liz; indylindy
"Rudy must have been praying to some other God.....his private life and public record are a disgrace to mankind and an abomination to God.....pretty well disqualifies Rudy for the GOP nomination!"

Rudy may have prayed to God, but I really wonder if God even listened, given that He knows more about Giuliani than anyone.

19 posted on 05/14/2007 5:08:12 AM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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To: TommyDale; indylindy
......I really wonder if God even listened, given that He knows more about Giuliani than anyone......

Even knows Rooty's innermost thoughts and secret deeds.

20 posted on 05/14/2007 5:19:15 AM PDT by Liz (Rudy Giuliani: Guinness World Record for Having The Most Positions on Abortion.)
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