Posted on 05/16/2007 8:31:28 AM PDT by Kuksool
Fred Thompson will wipe the floor with Edwards.
Imagine those two in a debate - it would be like Edwards arguing a case with a prosecutor (Fred) and the prosecutor is giving him a smack-down.
“Edwards would be tough because he’d almost certainly take NC and would probably take VA as well”.
...not necessarily so. NC knows all about his 50,000 sf house and his record as a liar, hypocrite and ambulance chaser.
lol You took my response!
And that difference matters squat to me. That's his personal life and none of my business.
Okay.
I hereby resolve:
Not to read any polls about election favorites for at least six months.
Not to read any articles about Guiliani.
and to pray that people stop posting articles about horrible cruelty to animals.
Our troops are intelligent and many of them are conservative. They are concerned about the same things any other intelligent conservative is concerned about when it comes to who to support for president and CIC. Rudy's marriages and adultery show something about the character of the man but I'm sure our troops are also concerned about Rudy flaunting his contempt for the law with his pro-terrorist sanctuary policy, his anti-Second Amendment stance (many soldiers are gun enthusiasts), his in incompetency in handling security issues in NY, his actively avoiding military service himself (this could be a real stickler), and his general lack of any experience or expertise on the military or war fighting.
I don't expect to see any large groundswell of support for Rudy from the military.
Some of us have seen firsthand what the "lisping leftist thug" did to clean up an unmanageable cesspool in New York City and know that if there are some serious tasks that need to be accomplished (like the WoT, Social Security reform, or reducing bloated government bureaucracies and spending) and know that a President Guiliani wouldn't stand behind politics and would actually get the job done.
He's a strong leader who did a tremendous job exercising the RAT demons, downsizing the size of city governement and consolidating governmental units (NYPD reform comes to mind). He made people on welfare work. He improved the quality of life in NYC 100-fold in his terms as mayor and will do the same for America.
Honestly, he's not politically correct, which to me in this day and age is wonderful. He's not afraid to speak his mind and say exactly what he means. He's basically not your typical politician that sticks to the DNC and RNC talking points of the day.
Whether he deserves the nod in a good Republican field is something open for debate and something even I am not settled on. But he's not as far left as some FReepers claim he is.
He's socially moderate and fiscially conservative, which mirrors most of America and is the type of candidate (along with Thompson and a handful of others) that can run from the right-center to win the general election. Better a right-center candidate than an avowed socialist like Hitlery or Obama or Beck Girl. I think we'd all agree upon that.
Some of us have seen firsthand what the “lisping leftist thug” did to clean up an unmanageable cesspool in New York City...-
I still don’t want that leftist running the nation and picking judges.
He’d be more dangerous than Hillary.
Honestly, he’s not politically correct, which to me in this day and age is wonderful.
What you mean is that he is by no stretch of the imagine a “conservative.”
I don’t care how “good” a husband he is. I’d vote for Bill Clinton over Edwards. At least Clinton didn’t constantly appease the Nutroots.
Rudy's socially far left wing, farther left than a large portion of Democrats. Fiscally he's only just liberal.
What he's said and what he's done prove it.
Let's see.. socially far left wing... I see a ton of Democrats willing to kick Arafat out of Lincoln Center like Guliani did (Hillary kissed him). I see a ton of RATs willing to crack down on crime and jail panhandlers and squeegee men like Guiliani did. Most Democrats would rather throw money at the problem. Yep. Law and order, but socially liberal.
It comes down to abortion and gun control that you make the social left wing arguments, but it is a distortion of the entierty of his record.
A fiscal liberal? Cutting taxes? Making welfare recipients work? Cutting the bloated NYC bureaucracy? Those are all liberal fiscal policies, right? No, they are all Republican tenants (many of which are lost on this administration).
This is a bit wierd .....
What did they do “force” a decision between two (carefully) chosen candidates to “bump” Edwards chances (while knocking repubbies)?????
NOTHING anywhere shows Edwards has any chance of anything but mopping up the floor after Hillary drools on it ...
NO, the difference is that Edwards has the guts to say he’s a democrat.
I believe Edwards would be worst than Hillary
I cant imagine him getting the RAT nomination, but if he did by some miracle, I'm not sure he'd take either state.
IIRC, Bush took NC in 2004, and Edwards was expected to lose if he ran for Senate again. A leftist like Edwards would have a very hard time in VA, especially if matched against someone like Rudy, who is the type of Republican that plays well in Northern Virginia. The notion around here that the Northern part of the state is overrun with liberal RATS is wrong; for decades, two of the three members of Congress from that part of the state have been Republicans.
I’ll wait to see the data.
You're the one that picked out those two issues. There's also his anti-First amendment stance, his downright advocacy in favor of special rights for gays, his suicidal pro illegal immigrant stance, his strong support for liberal Democrats when he was Mayor including selecting them for most of his judicial appointments, and this is on top of his radical pro-abortion positions and his anti-Second Amendment policies.
How about his fiscal record?
Is support for public funding for abortion fiscally conservative?
Is support for the taxpayer picking up the bill for all social services and welfare for illegal aliens conservative?
What about leaving NY with the highest tax rate and the highest deficit of anyplace in the country? Conservative?
And then there's law and order. Flaunting his policy not to obey Federal immigration laws to the point of refusing to obey two Federal Courts. Conservative?
Liberals who become prosecutors are quite often strong on "law and order" sometimes to the point of becoming authoritarian and trampling on the rights of citizens. This does not make them conservative, it just makes them a liberal bully.
NO THANKS.
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