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Smoking In Private Clubs Overturned
WTAM.COM ^ | 05/18/07 | WTAM.COM

Posted on 05/18/2007 5:42:12 AM PDT by GOP_Lady

Smoking In Private Clubs Overturned


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: smokingvfwvets; womanoffewwords
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To: apillar

They are not private. There is no such thing.


81 posted on 05/18/2007 7:56:12 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: GOP_Lady

I hope those anti-smoking zealots enjoy the non-ownership police state they have created.


82 posted on 05/18/2007 7:57:10 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: vox humana

Polluting the air other people breathe is not a right.


Exhaling alone pollutes the air. People with colds pollute the air. How far are we going to take this?


83 posted on 05/18/2007 7:59:36 AM PDT by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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To: jpsb
Yea we have them here, there serve EVERYONE, memership not required or checked.

Theonly time we are allowed to serve non-members without a member is if our banquest hall has been rented and those renting it have the proper alcohol license from the state. State law, not Lodge policy.

It just so happens while tending bar at the Moose Lodge last night I happened to run into this situation. Folks who have rented our hall for Saturday were in decorating and wanted to buy a beer, even though none were members. I couldn't serve them. Had one of the members signed themin as guests it would have been a different story, but none of the members present at the time knew any of them, so they couldn't be signed in.

84 posted on 05/18/2007 8:03:29 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: Gabz

Well yall do it the right way, here where I live there is no difference bewteen a public bar and a VFW, etc. Except the VFW’s etc get all kinds of competitive advantages over bars. Banning smoking in public bars but not VFW’s, etc. would put all public bars out of business.


85 posted on 05/18/2007 8:10:26 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: GOP_Lady

On a business trip to Utah a few years back I was told drinking is only allowed at private clubs.

Many of these private clubs looked like regular bars to me. There were a lot of them. A membership to the club cost $2 at the door.


86 posted on 05/18/2007 8:17:56 AM PDT by toast
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

An armed invasion of the legislature?

Hmmmmmmmm, I wonder what kind of response our Forefathers would have given that question. Considering the FREEDOM we have and enjoy in this Country today.

What is FREEDOM? Some how I am missing something by reading history and the dictionary. I want the FREEDOM our Founders gave us not what politicians have allowed us.


87 posted on 05/18/2007 8:18:19 AM PDT by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: jpsb
Banning smoking in public bars but not VFW’s, etc. would put all public bars out of business.

Not according to the anti-smokers behind these bans, they say the bans will IMPROVE business, and they wouldn't lie, would they?

88 posted on 05/18/2007 8:19:01 AM PDT by Gabz
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To: GOP_Lady
Cain granted the request of a restaurant and bar owners’ group to block the exemption from taking effect.

Restaurant and bar owners didn't want private clubs to be exempted because they knew it would result in them losing business. Smokers would, of course, choose to go where they can smoke.

Government should butt out and let businesses choose whether or not to allow smoking. Let the market decide.

89 posted on 05/18/2007 8:21:13 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: MEGoody

Government should butt out and let businesses choose whether or not to allow smoking. Let the market decide.

That would bare too much resemblance to a FREE market. Can’t have that in America.


90 posted on 05/18/2007 8:26:12 AM PDT by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: vox humana
Polluting the air other people breathe is not a right.

Oh puhleeze. If you don't want to breath 'second hand smoke', then don't go to establishments that allow smoking. There are plenty that are smoke free BY CHOICE.

91 posted on 05/18/2007 8:29:54 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Phantom Patriot
I want the FREEDOM our Founders gave us not what politicians have allowed us.

Well, then, maybe you should head to DC with your side-by-side and see how far it gets you.

92 posted on 05/18/2007 8:42:26 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Well, then, maybe you should head to DC with your side-by-side and see how far it gets you.

Are you saying that FREEDOM is not worth fighting for?

93 posted on 05/18/2007 8:44:40 AM PDT by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: Phantom Patriot
Are you saying that FREEDOM is not worth fighting for?

Absolutely not.

Have at it!

Please!

94 posted on 05/18/2007 8:46:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
You will never keep your FREEDOM with just words. I feel sorry for those that believe that. All I can assume by this forum is that many people like to hear themselves complain and lack the conviction to lay their life down for what they believe. Unless of course the government tells you to do so and brainwashes you into believing it is right.
95 posted on 05/18/2007 8:52:44 AM PDT by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: Phantom Patriot
You will never keep your FREEDOM with just words. I feel sorry for those that believe that. All I can assume by this forum is that many people like to hear themselves complain and lack the conviction to lay their life down for what they believe. Unless of course the government tells you to do so and brainwashes you into believing it is right.

You aren't a postal worker, are you?

96 posted on 05/18/2007 8:53:44 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
You aren’t a postal worker, are you?

No, just one who watches and waits.

97 posted on 05/18/2007 8:56:01 AM PDT by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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To: vox humana
Polluting the air other people breathe is not a right

What are you doing posting on a conservative forum. I'm not a smoker, but you anti-smoking nazis make me sick.

98 posted on 05/18/2007 8:56:02 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: Phantom Patriot
No, just one who watches and waits.

Are you waiting for a signal from David Berwkowitz's demon dog bark to start your rampage?

99 posted on 05/18/2007 8:59:16 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Are you waiting for a signal from David Berwkowitz’s demon dog bark to start your rampage?

Fighting for ones FREEDOM is considered a rampage? I can tell by your posts that you are one who deserves all the government regulation they can muster. Someday maybe, just maybe, they might hit a cord that will bring you to the understanding that this Country no longer represents what we so audatiously tout as a FREE Country.

100 posted on 05/18/2007 9:04:34 AM PDT by Phantom Patriot (From my cold dead hands.)
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