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Smoking In Private Clubs Overturned
WTAM.COM ^ | 05/18/07 | WTAM.COM

Posted on 05/18/2007 5:42:12 AM PDT by GOP_Lady

Smoking In Private Clubs Overturned


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: smokingvfwvets; womanoffewwords
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The madness if getting even more maddening
1 posted on 05/18/2007 5:42:14 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Smoking In Private Clubs Overturned

Part of SmokeFree Ohio Law is stricken from the books.
Friday, May 18, 2007
(Columbus) - A judge has ruled that private clubs in Ohio can’t permit smoking, despite language in the statewide smoking ban that seemed to allow it.

Judge David Cain (right) of the Franklin County Common Pleas Court ruled that the state overstepped its authority in writing rules exempting private clubs, including VFW halls that had fought to be excluded from the ban.

Cain granted the request of a restaurant and bar owners’ group to block the exemption from taking effect.

He says the Ohio Department of Health’s attempt to resolve contradictory language in the SmokeFree Act, which both allowed smoking in private clubs and restricted smoking in most workplaces was overbroad.


2 posted on 05/18/2007 5:43:24 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Gabz; SheLion

Please Ping! everyone, SheLion. Thanks! :-)


3 posted on 05/18/2007 5:44:19 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady
"Judge David Cain (right) of the Franklin County Common Pleas Court ruled that the state overstepped its authority in writing rules exempting private clubs, including VFW halls that had fought to be excluded from the ban."

A legislature overstepped its authority by not taking away enough rights?

4 posted on 05/18/2007 5:46:20 AM PDT by RabidBartender (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kerMm0HG1mk)
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To: RabidBartender
Good point.

The legislature overstepped its authority by not banning it completely.

Surreal.

5 posted on 05/18/2007 5:49:41 AM PDT by HoosierHawk
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To: GOP_Lady

I’ll be smoking a cigar at a golf course in Cleveland in 6.5 hours and I’ll probably smoke another stogie at a bar patio later in the evening.

They can’t stop us, they can only hope to contain us.


6 posted on 05/18/2007 5:56:01 AM PDT by bigcat32
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To: GOP_Lady

The government wants control of our private lives, both regarding actions and thoughts as can be seen from the absurdity of “hate crimes.”


7 posted on 05/18/2007 5:56:36 AM PDT by Jane Austen
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To: GOP_Lady; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; Mears; ..

Nanny State Ping.


8 posted on 05/18/2007 5:57:33 AM PDT by Gabz (Nemo me impune lacessit (Latin for "No-one provokes me with impunity"))
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To: RabidBartender
A legislature overstepped its authority by not taking away enough rights?

Polluting the air other people breathe is not a right.

9 posted on 05/18/2007 5:58:00 AM PDT by vox humana
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To: RabidBartender
A legislature overstepped its authority by not taking away enough rights?

No, bar and restaurant owners objected to certain establishments being exempted.

I don't blame them. Laws should be applied equally. Even bad laws.

10 posted on 05/18/2007 5:58:26 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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To: Jane Austen

And fairly soon, we will have 20 million more voting citizens who agree that the government should control our private lives.

The vast majority of immigrants (legal and illegal) come from socialist countries.


11 posted on 05/18/2007 6:00:34 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: vox humana

In a PRIVATE club?


12 posted on 05/18/2007 6:01:33 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Next up, phase out malts and burgers, introduce new “Victory Porridge.”


13 posted on 05/18/2007 6:02:35 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (The 21st century is a real booger.)
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To: vox humana

Don’t go where smokers are. Solved. Unless you’re the type who likes to use government to tell people what they can and can’t do on their own property.


14 posted on 05/18/2007 6:02:39 AM PDT by RabidBartender (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kerMm0HG1mk)
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To: vox humana

“Government dictating to PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS what they can and cannot do on their own property...is not right.”

I fixed this for you. I’m CERTAIN this is what you meant to say. ;)

Hint: Don’t like smoke in a PRIVATE CLUB? Don’t go there. Don’t like it in a restaurant or tavern? Don’t go there.)


15 posted on 05/18/2007 6:02:56 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: vox humana

You have no right to enter a private club unless you are a member or guest of a member.


16 posted on 05/18/2007 6:03:23 AM PDT by Gabz (Nemo me impune lacessit (Latin for "No-one provokes me with impunity"))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I can see the bars and restaurants complaining about equality, but shouldn’t they be classified as public businesses as oppposed to private ones, therefore having different standards?


17 posted on 05/18/2007 6:04:21 AM PDT by RabidBartender (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kerMm0HG1mk)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I don't blame them. Laws should be applied equally. Even bad laws.

Private clubs already have different laws applying to them than do establishments open to the general public.

18 posted on 05/18/2007 6:04:47 AM PDT by Gabz (Nemo me impune lacessit (Latin for "No-one provokes me with impunity"))
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
“Victory Porridge.”

LOL! Thanks for the laugh to start my day! :)

19 posted on 05/18/2007 6:05:16 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: GOP_Lady
Wake up people, the UN is controlling the anti-smoking campaign! Read the following treaty with UN Department of World Health Organization (WHO):

“FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Tuesday, May 11, 2004
Contact: HHS Press Office
(202) 690-6343

United States Signs Tobacco Control Treaty
NEW YORK — On behalf of the United States, HHS Secretary Tommy G. Thompson signed the Framework Convention on Tobacco Control (FCTC) on Monday at the United Nations. The FCTC is the first-ever global public health treaty negotiated under the auspices of the World Health Organization (WHO).

The treaty serves as an important basis for advancing public health worldwide. It encourages other nations to establish standards similar to the ones set for tobacco prevention and control domestically in the United States. For example, the treaty contains a strong U.S.-drafted provision against tobacco smuggling, which could help prevent illicit trade in tobacco.

“The United States has long been a world leader in anti-smoking efforts,” Secretary Thompson said. “We have committed more resources than any other country to the research, development and evaluation of smoking control and cessation programs, both at home and abroad. President Bush and I look forward to working with the WHO and other member nations to implement this agreement.”

Secretary Thompson noted that the United States is making strides in reducing death and disease caused by tobacco as well as in diminishing use, especially among children. Youth smoking rates have dropped significantly in this country among minors — from 18.9 percent in the mid-1990s to 13 percent in 2002. However, tobacco-related illness remains the leading preventable cause of death among adult Americans.

The United States, with HHS as the lead agency, participated actively throughout the drafting process and negotiations to help achieve a strong and effective instrument for global tobacco control. The World Health Assembly adopted the FCTC in May 2003. The United States becomes the 108th nation to sign this treaty.

The FCTC is intended to provide for basic tobacco control measures to be implemented by all parties through domestic law. The objective of the FCTC is to protect “present and future generations from devastating health, social, environmental and economic consequences” of tobacco use and to reduce the prevalence of tobacco use and exposure to tobacco smoke.

The demand for and the supply of tobacco is addressed through various means, including smoking prevention and cessation, health warnings on packaging, restrictions on tobacco advertising and sponsorship in accordance with each signatory nation’s domestic law and constitution, and measures to combat illicit trade. Promoting public awareness of the adverse health effects of tobacco use is also a key element of the treaty. Parties must support measures to protect against exposure to tobacco smoke in public venues, and prohibit cigarette sales to minors.

The FCTC is designed to reduce the demand for and the supply of tobacco, and promoting public awareness of the adverse health effects of tobacco use is a key element of the treat. Once the FCTC takes effect, treaty requires partners to:

Promote public awareness of tobacco control and promote smoking prevention and cessation.
Include health warnings on packaging and ensure that tobacco product packaging and labeling is not false or misleading, or could create the false impression that the product is less harmful than other tobacco products.
Have restrictions on tobacco advertising and sponsorship in accordance with each nation’s domestic law and constitution.
Have measures to combat illicit trade to prevent tobacco smuggling, a provision drafted by the United States.
Prohibit tobacco product sales to minors.
The treaty is open for signature until June 29. The treaty will take effect after 40 nations have ratified it; nine nations have ratified the FCTC so far. The next step for the treaty in the United States is submission to the Senate, following completion of further interagency review of the treaty.”

20 posted on 05/18/2007 6:05:19 AM PDT by paratrooper82 (82 Airborne 1/508th BN "fury from the sky")
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