Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

But Who Was Right -- Rudy or Ron?
Human Events ^ | May.18, 2007 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 05/18/2007 7:52:44 AM PDT by Reagan Man

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 181-184 next last
To: jpl
At times, it appears to me as though our government cares more about the Iraqis than it does about our own troops that we're sending over there.

I hate to break this to you, but that's really been the case at ALL times.

61 posted on 05/18/2007 9:06:32 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 57 | View Replies]

To: jveritas
Any person who has a shred of patriotism and a basic common sense will realize that we simply cannot afford to leave Iraq before we defeat terrorism there.

Reagan Man:
Agreed

So, we agree, we must fight the terrorists on their home ground in the middle east.

Why can't we also fight them world wide as Paul advocated?

HR 3076 September 11 Marque and Reprisal Act of 2001 (Introduced in the House); October 10, 2001 by Ron Paul

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/sept_11/hr3076_ih.htm

62 posted on 05/18/2007 9:06:34 AM PDT by tpaine (" My most important function on the Supreme Court is to tell the majority to take a walk." -Scalia)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Reagan Man

Ah yes, another lovely Buchanan thread, where facts are thrown out the window by hysterical FReepers in favor of the usual ad-hominems and Buchanan name-calling.


63 posted on 05/18/2007 9:11:00 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Reagan Man
I think Rooty`s outburst of indignation at Paul’s dumb remarks was a planned stunt.

Of course it was.

It's the equivalent of grasping desperately at vines when you're sinking in the quicksand.

Rudy has no credibility on the WOT as well as all the other issues.

64 posted on 05/18/2007 9:14:29 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: tpaine

I can’t be certain, but things might have turned out better if Bush had asked for and the Congress granted him an official declaration of war. Of course then we would have been obligated to fight the battle for Iraq like it was a real war. The invasion was a huge success. The aftermath has been a difficult nut to crack. Its been handled with too much poltiical correctness. The US military is not a police force or a nation building contingent. Nor is it meant to spread “democracy” to the Islamic world. The US military is desgined to fight battle and win wars. Hopefully before Bush leaves office, we can get achieve some sort of success. I’d still like to see a strong and sizeable US presence left in Iraq for years to come. This WOT is gonna last a long time.


65 posted on 05/18/2007 9:16:26 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 62 | View Replies]

To: Reagan Man
So Buchanon has now become a "root causer"...the very same thing he used to mock Democrats for.

Take Buchanon and Paul, and kick them both to the curb.
66 posted on 05/18/2007 9:18:29 AM PDT by DesScorp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Reagan Man

Right. But the U.S. military hasn’t fought a “real war” since 1945, so I don’t know why anyone would have expected this one to be any different.


67 posted on 05/18/2007 9:19:45 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 65 | View Replies]

To: Tailgunner Joe
Scheuer is is a well known Arabist who believes the USA is controlled by ZOG.

Ron Paul's defenders are citing the likes of Scheuer and the 9-11 Omission. Not the best way to make their case.

68 posted on 05/18/2007 9:21:18 AM PDT by dirtboy (A store clerk has done more to fight the WOT than Rudy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: Tailgunner Joe
Scheuer is is a well known Arabist who believes the USA is controlled by ZOG.

A "well-known Arabist"? No...he doesn't believe that the USA is "controlled by ZOG"

What he does believe is that one-sided support by the US for Israel is a policy that undermines what should be the only foreign policy objective of the US (protecting it's citizens). I have never gotten the impression that Scheurer cares much one way or the other about Israel or the Arab world and what they do in their battle against each other...other than to the extent that it effects American interests...which is how it should be for every American and every American government official. But that more Americans focused only on the interests of our own country

He is critical of the power of the Israeli lobby...not because its Israel...but because it should trouble every American that there are powerful lobbies in Washington pushing the agendas of foreign nations. He's also been critical of the power of the Saudi lobby

69 posted on 05/18/2007 9:21:53 AM PDT by Irontank (Ron Paul for President)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: MEGoody

Oh yeah, he’s right on this one but not on much else.


70 posted on 05/18/2007 9:22:05 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Alberta's Child

We’re in basic agreement on this one.

Although I did like the way Bush41 used overwhelming force to win the Gulf War. I know —— we didn’t go far enough for some. But that wasn’t the original objective. I think it was a smart move at the time. Historic hindsight is always 20/20.


71 posted on 05/18/2007 9:24:23 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: Reagan Man
When Ron Paul said the 9-11 killers were "over here because we are over there," he was not excusing the mass murderers of 3,000 Americans. He was explaining the roots of hatred out of which the suicide-killers came.

Yes. Absolutely, yes.

An explanation is not an excuse.
72 posted on 05/18/2007 9:25:28 AM PDT by Xenalyte (You have to defile a mummy completely, or they come back to life. You know that.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: OKIEDOC

I realize it’s quicker and easier, not to mention more fun, to insult people with whom you disagree, but I’ll ask anyway.

Please tell us on which points Buchanan is wrong, and why.


73 posted on 05/18/2007 9:26:10 AM PDT by Xenalyte (You have to defile a mummy completely, or they come back to life. You know that.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: MEGoody

If you “don’t care” what the statement meant, how can you have an opinion on it?


74 posted on 05/18/2007 9:27:16 AM PDT by Xenalyte (You have to defile a mummy completely, or they come back to life. You know that.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Irontank
He’s also critical of the Holocaust museum. He’s just another moonbat kook who thinks Israel jewed us into fighting their war for them. The same thing the rat party hints at when they say “neo-cons” (joooos) “cherry-picked” intelligence to trick us into war. Maybe if the CIA was worth a damn we would have better intelligence but it wasn’t because of traitors like Tenet and Scheuer and Plame.
75 posted on 05/18/2007 9:27:28 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 69 | View Replies]

To: presidio9

Yeah, God forbid our foreign policy be conducted Constitutionally.


76 posted on 05/18/2007 9:28:07 AM PDT by Xenalyte (You have to defile a mummy completely, or they come back to life. You know that.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: P-40

Such as??


77 posted on 05/18/2007 9:29:48 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Chi-townChief

He would need to have a direct line to Bin Laden.


78 posted on 05/18/2007 9:32:31 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 77 | View Replies]

To: Xenalyte

Well, whether Ron Paul was partially right or not, his rhetoric was incoherent at best. I agree with Paul’s call for limited government and real tax reform. But the way he communicates his position on Iraq, is very troubling. I doubt he’ll be invited to any future debates.

More importantly in the long term. Rooty was given a huge soundbite success, one that he planned but didn’t deserve. Rooty was getting blasted on almost every issue. He needed something to obfuscate that truth and was handed it on a silver platter by Paul.


79 posted on 05/18/2007 9:33:38 AM PDT by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 72 | View Replies]

To: Reagan Man
Rudy is right on this. Ron Paul misses the big picture that many of the other candidates and most conservatives grasp ---> the Islamic radicals want to establish a world-wide caliphate regardless of whether we are in Iraq or staying locked up at home twiddling our thumbs waiting for them to come here.

Everyone should read this article:

The textbooks paint an alarming picture of a regime that divides the world between "good" and "evil" forces that are destined to clash until a victory is reached. Since the evil and arrogant West seeks to destroy Iran, a war is inevitable. Iranians are hence tasked with a religious mission of fighting "evil" until the latter's final eradication, or, until the "good" camp is wiped out. In Ayatollah Khomeini's words, reproduced in an eleventh-grade textbook: "Either we shake one another's hand in joy at the victory of Islam in the world, or all of us will turn to eternal life and martyrdom.

The Iranian school textbooks reveal a frightening vision of an extremist regime that prepares its school children for another such episode -- an Armageddon-like global war against the West.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20070214-093525-3000r.htm

The Ayatollah's words make it quite clear what they think -- either they win or they win anyway.

80 posted on 05/18/2007 9:34:18 AM PDT by redgirlinabluestate (Romney/DeMint?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 41-6061-8081-100 ... 181-184 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson