Posted on 05/21/2007 6:24:57 PM PDT by Pinkbell
Who are you to judge? Who are you to say that the more than slightly creepy 39-year-old woman from Arkansas who just gave birth to her 16th child yes that's right 16 kids and try not to cringe in phantom vaginal pain when you say it, who are you to say Michelle Duggar is not more than a little unhinged and sad and lost?
And furthermore, who are you to suggest that her equally troubling husband -- whose name is, of course, Jim Bob and he's hankerin' to be a Republican senator and try not to wince in sociopolitical pain when you say that -- isn't more than a little numb to the real world, and that bringing 16 hungry mewling attention-deprived kids (and she wants more! Yay!) into this exhausted world zips right by "touching" and races right past "disturbing" and lurches its way, heaving and gasping and sweating from the karmic armpits, straight into "Oh my God, what the hell is wrong with you people?"
But that would be, you know, mean. Mean and callous to suggest that this might be the most disquieting photo you see all year, this bizarre Duggar family of 18 spotless white hyperreligious interchangeable people with alarmingly bad hair, the kids ranging in ages from 1 to 17, worse than those nuked Smurfs in that UNICEF commercial and worse than all the horrific rubble in Pakistan and worse than the cluster-bomb nightmare that is Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise having a child as they suck the skin from each other's Scientological faces and even worse than that huge 13-foot python which ate that six-foot alligator and then exploded.
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True, God does not want 16 kids. He wants (and has) billions.
A brilliant high school friend of mine said that the first word that came to his mind when considering J S Bach was "father." His 2 and 3 part inventions, for example, were written to help his children master the clavier. The generation after thought that C P E Bach, his son, was "the great" Bach. (I later learned that my friend was a homosexual, which adds poignant weight to his testimony.)
On a different note - Age difference between 1 and 2 - 14 months. Child 1 was speaking like an adult by age 2. Child 2 was also speaking complete sentences by age 2. Child 3 (2.4 years between 2 and 3) took longer, because his siblings did his talking for him.
All are honors students, top of their classes.
How many professional couples have nannies who spend more time with their kids than the parents do?
I would've loved to have more children, but couldn't.
Ben Franklin was the 10th of 12 I think. It's one way Eurpopeans were able to take the country, as the American Indians tended to have very small families .
Why is an interesting question. I think it was due to a very low carb diet which the Indians had, which generally leads to lower fertility. European Americans tended to eat more carbs, due to their agricultural lifestyle, which often leads to more body fat, and higher fertility.
But even when white women married Indian men,and lived the Indian lifestyle ( I'm thinking of white captives who adopted Indian lives) they often had more children than the average Indian woman.
We had a Cherokee marry into the family line, and she also had a fairly large family. But the CHerokee were also agriculturally based, so this may have been the norm anyway.
Sorry, poor choice of words by me. Jim Bob and Michelle did quite well with their real estate investments when they were first married. They also attended a seminar to where they learned how to live debt-free (which does work for me too.) And they do live frugally. Jim Bob still works in real estate and wants to be in the US Senate someday. However, they did make a lot of money initially in the real estate market.
Hey Hillary, I never thought you'd be here at FR, you know the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy and all. Next your going to tell me it takes a village to raise a child.
That could be true. We would have to wonder if he would say this to a black or hispanic family, even if they were on welfare. Would he say this to Muslims, even if they were on welfare? I doubt he’d have the guts. Christians are generally easy to attack. It’s doubtful sweet people like that will attack back.
Wow suggesting that a girl should have a career or her own business makes me Hillary. How rich considering that I am someone who believes that women SHOULD stay home with their children once they have them. In the meantime, they can get an education that will help bring in money in the form of a homebased business run by the family. Not every girl wants to or should stay home to take care of a husband when they have no children. That’s a ridiculous waste of time. Personally, I’m working socking away money so when I do get pregnant I don’t have to go back to work EVER. That is something you will never hear from Hillary my friend.
The God Haters of San Fransissyco, why am I not surprised.
This author has some major psychological issues...I sure hope he gets professional help.
SFGATE is a GAY Newspaper????
They don’t sound happy or Gay to me
These were the key words that caught my attention. Hillary's idea is that the womans place is in the work place. Her idea is that as soon as the woman is able, she drops off her child at daycare that the gubmint would graciously provide, so that she could not only provide income for her family, but (more importantly) also be benefit to society. Hillary's ideas are that housewives and mothers aren't a benefit to society, that their skills are wasted staying at home, and not benefiting the greater good.
Careers are fine for SOME women, but some women desire to be nothing more than mothers and housewives. And when I say nothing more, its in the sense that that is all they desire for a career, not that being a mother and a housewife is demeaning or lowly. There are some women who look at motherhood and housewives as an aspiration, something to do with excellence, something beyond themselves.
Not every person is cut out for college. Some people are quite successful without it. Though I believe education is important, I think that college itself might be over rated. A person gets a 4 year degree, for their chosen field and doesn't use half of their education.
Our advanced education industry is just that, an industry. Heavily marketed to everyone almost from birth. And yet the cost increases far exceed normal costs of living increases.
Why do people today spend 40, 60, or 80 thousand dollars for a piece of paper that supposedly tells people you're qualified for a job making 40 or 50 thousand dollars a year? We have people going deeply in debt so when they finally do get into the working world they're already behind the eight ball.
I've heard the statistic, I believe its half the people with college educations end up either not using their education for their chosen field, or leaving their chosen field in which they were educated, for something else.
Now I realize that there can be some overlap of education into other fields, but if so many are leaving or not even entering the fields they were educated for, wouldn't that be a waste of education? And what does that really say about the need for advanced education for some careers, when a person can leave one field that they were supposedly educated for, and begin another field that they supposedly weren't educated for?
Don't get me wrong on education, I think its important. But I think we've been sold a bill of goods on needing "X degree" when a number of classes would be better.
So to summarize my long posting, I don't feel EVERY woman needs an advanced education or a career. Some aren't suited for it, and some desire a different path. And thats what makes this nation great, people can choose the path they want to go down in life and not have to explain or justify their actions to others. But if Hillary has her way, that will all change. She would have it that EVERY woman would be out in the working world
Oh lastly, as I reread your reply to my posting, before I sent this back, I noticed the part about a woman owning her own business. I don't know what your belief system is, and that is your business, but me, I am a Christian who tries to live by the Bible, and in the book of Proverbs, chapter 31 it gives an outline of a godly woman, and part of what she does is basically run a business. So I do agree that woman can run their own businesses.
I could see how my statement could be misunderstood. Excellent post.
Unfortunately, that white stuff dripping out of the corner of his mouth isn’t venom. Michael Savage got fired from MSNBC for saying what I hope befalls that miserable evolutionary defect.
She sure is a good illustration of why families cannot have too many children. I hate to think what the world would be today without her visit. Thank the Lord for the blessing of her. We must all wonder, how many saints have we killed, when we kill an estimated 50 million unborn little boys and girls a year in this world.
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