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Rev. Frank S. Page, left, stands with President George Bush and Page's wife Dayle in October 2006. Page was elected president of the Southern Baptist Convention, the nation's largest evangelical denomination.
1 posted on 05/22/2007 7:39:02 AM PDT by NYer
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New generation of evangelicals
Polls suggest that evangelicals under 30 are just as staunchly opposed to abortion, and almost as concerned about "moral standards" in general, as their elders. But a February Pew survey found that younger evangelicals are more likely than their parents to worry about environmental issues; 59 percent of those under 30 said the United States was "losing ground" on pollution, compared with 37 percent of those over 30.

Acceptance of homosexuality is also greater among young evangelicals. One in three under 30 favors same-sex marriage, compared with one in 10 of their elders.

Redeem the Vote, a group formed in 2004 to register young evangelicals to vote, is campaigning with black churches in Alabama for capping the interest charges on short-term "payday" loans, which can hit 400 percent a year. The group's founder, physician Randy Brinson, said he finds that young evangelicals are intensely interested in practical ways to help their communities and are little swayed by issues such as same-sex marriage.

"These kids have gone to school with people who happen to be gay, and they don't see them as a direct threat. They may think that lifestyle is wrong, but they don't see it as something that really affects their daily lives," Brinson said. "The groups that focus only on a narrow agenda, especially gay marriage and abortion, are going to decline."

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2 posted on 05/22/2007 7:40:53 AM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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Acceptance of homosexuality is also greater among young evangelicals. One in three under 30 favors same-sex marriage, compared with one in 10 of their elders.

Either there is a problem with this poll's methodology, or there is a problem with evangelicalism, or both.

3 posted on 05/22/2007 7:42:15 AM PDT by wideawake ("Pearl Harbor is America's fault, right, Mommy?" - Ron Paul, age 6, 12/7/1941)
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“In the past, Baptists were very well known for what we’re against. . . . Instead of the caricature of an angry, narrow-minded, Bible-beating preacher, we wanted someone who could speak to normal people.”

It sounds like Rev. Page is making a huge mistake. He is allowing the opposition to define what a Baptist preacher is. Tell me that statement above doesn’t sound like he is seeking approval from the world. Maybe it is just that he has a different way of spreading the Gospel than Mr. Falwell, but it doesn’t sound good. John the Baptist was pretty narrow-minded when it came to Herod’s living arrangements.


7 posted on 05/22/2007 7:46:03 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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OMG!! Evangelists and Baptists going the way of Episcopalians!! sad.


9 posted on 05/22/2007 7:49:57 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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I can see more clearly now ... the gate is narrow and even the very elect will be deceived. As many will proclaim, “Lord, Lord but I did it in Your Name” - the response “I never knew you”. In the latter days, good will be evil and evil good.

Falwell was preaching for correction sake but many took it as condemnation. Jesus said you will be despised in this world for My Name sake and Falwell was despised by many - but not by His Judge!

12 posted on 05/22/2007 7:57:10 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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Page is a sell-out-your-friends-so-that-you-can-act-superior-to-them kind of guy. He blindly accepts false characterizations so that he can say “I’m not like that.” Well la-de-da. Who is? Name names Mr. Accuser.


15 posted on 05/22/2007 7:59:15 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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Some aspiring leaders of the evangelical movement are pushing good works and pop issues like environmentalism to become noticed and popular.

They are forgetting the roots of evangelicalism. Those roots were to accept a belief on God and to have a personal relationship with the Lord by obeying His commandments and reading His Word, the Bible. Evangelicals believe you can find Christ and his Mercy on a one to one basis, without the intervention or guidance of a church hierarchy. There is no overall Evangelical Bishop and each person, church or congregation has equal access to God’s love.


18 posted on 05/22/2007 8:04:36 AM PDT by RicocheT
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"Page is one of many pastors and political activists tugging conservative Christians in various directions."

He should be extremely careful not to tug anyone to the left, as others have attempted.

19 posted on 05/22/2007 8:04:58 AM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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Not to be too picky, but my personal belief is that Jerry Falwell was not an evangelical in the sense that most people think of today. When reporters report on “evangelicals,” they are usually referring to non-denominational churches such as Rick Warren’s and the like. Falwell had a denoimination, Baptist, and they have a defined orthodoxy, as opposed to non-denominational evangelicals, who seem to invent their own orthodoxy on a church by church basis (I know, since I belong to one).

Of course, in the traditional sense, Falwell was an evangelist (someone who is spreading the Word), but I don’t think he was a typical non-denominational evangelist a la Rick Warren, Robert Schuller, and other megachurch founder,as well as my own current quasi-denomination, The Vineyard.

Of course, it is too much to expect the media to get anything right regarding religion, but I think they miss the point when they classify him as an evangelical along the lines of Rick Warren and the like. I have seen several websites from the Baptists who are quite opposed to Warren, and even argue that these types of churches are not “authentic Christians,” in that they do not follow the core message of sin and salvation through grace.


21 posted on 05/22/2007 8:07:32 AM PDT by Fractal Trader
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Acceptance of homosexuality is also greater among young evangelicals. One in three under 30 favors same-sex marriage, compared with one in 10 of their elders.

Redeem the Vote, a group formed in 2004 to register young evangelicals to vote, is campaigning with black churches in Alabama for capping the interest charges on short-term "payday" loans, which can hit 400 percent a year. The group's founder, physician Randy Brinson, said he finds that young evangelicals are intensely interested in practical ways to help their communities and are little swayed by issues such as same-sex marriage.

"These kids have gone to school with people who happen to be gay, and they don't see them as a direct threat. They may think that lifestyle is wrong, but they don't see it as something that really affects their daily lives," Brinson said. "The groups that focus only on a narrow agenda, especially gay marriage and abortion, are going to decline."

How many agree that this is true of younger evangelicals?

If so, it means some terrible things for my denomination, in particular, and for historic Christianity in general.

While I agree that morality preaching is not the sum total of what Christianity is all about, I do not think that means doctrines of Christian morality are optional.

23 posted on 05/22/2007 8:11:32 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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MSNBC wants us to think that but I seriously doubt that’s the case.


28 posted on 05/22/2007 8:15:54 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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But it's a shift toward a more centrist..

Exactly why I refuse to belong to a Church affiliated with the SBC.

They went soft.

54 posted on 05/22/2007 9:14:46 AM PDT by TomServo
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By their fruits you will know them...

this is no surprise as it's another a sign of the times.

the framework is being set up for the anti-christ, and these are just signs we all need to be ready and prepared for Christ's triumphant return.

60 posted on 05/22/2007 9:34:30 AM PDT by Battle Hymn of the Republic
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(younger generation ok with same sex marriage)

Oh they are NOT!

72 posted on 05/22/2007 1:30:02 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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The Rev. Joel Hunter of Orlando urges evangelicals to see climate change as a serious religious issue, because "our first order in the Garden was to take care of the Earth."

Oh, brrrrother -- talk about not having your priorities straight. Has this guy ever gotten past Genesis and read the Gospels? Exactly where did Jesus or the apostles warn about the sin of carbon dioxide emissions?

86 posted on 05/22/2007 3:36:35 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (MSNBC : Morons Spew Nothing But Crap)
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88 posted on 05/22/2007 4:02:59 PM PDT by Coleus (Woe unto him that call evil good and good evil"-- Isaiah 5:20-21)
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same sex "marriage" can NEVER produce a younger generation.

90 posted on 05/22/2007 4:24:07 PM PDT by Alouette (It is reminiscent of the world-famous Jewish conspiracy, now extended to also include Jews.)
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"These kids have gone to school with people who happen to be gay, and they don't see them as a direct threat. They may think that lifestyle is wrong, but they don't see it as something that really affects their daily lives," Brinson said. "The groups that focus only on a narrow agenda, especially gay marriage and abortion, are going to decline."

That will likely remain so until these young people have kids and see that the homosexual activists want to directly influence their lives. Then these people who are young now will begin to understand why their parents took the stand that they did against homosexual activism.

I have friends who I suspect are homosexual, but I've never delved into their personal lives. What they do behind closed doors doesn't concern me, as it probably doesn't concern most people. But when homosexual activists try to up-end the mores of this nation and drastically change our culture to accomodate the lifestyle choices of a miniscule minority of people, that's when I disagree with them, and will fight against them.

93 posted on 05/22/2007 10:19:11 PM PDT by SuziQ
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[ After Falwell, evangelicals at crossroads (younger generation ok with same sex marriage) ]

No their not.. Queers were queer, remain queer, and always will be queer.. Because sexual identity disfunction is queer..

Even little kids know its queer... Back when the word queer meant something it was still queer.. Thats why they were called queers'..

98 posted on 05/23/2007 9:08:18 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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Let's not be so gullible as to believe the liberal media.
101 posted on 05/23/2007 12:37:26 PM PDT by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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