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Overblown GOP apocalypse
The Hill ^ | 5/23/07 | David Hill

Posted on 05/23/2007 12:23:12 PM PDT by Jean S

Rumors of the Republican Party’s imminent meltdown in 2008 are rampant. Websites and blogs bristle with headlines like “They’re screwed,” “Licking their wounds,” “Republicans really are the stupid party” and “What are Republicans thinking?” And those are from the friendly conservative sources. Some wags say the party is hopelessly divided over issues ranging from abortion and Iraq to gas prices and immigration. Other observers focus on the dissident voices of GOP moderates. Some pundits point their fingers at a president who’s too distracted by war and low approval ratings to provide much party leadership. And there’s a persistent sense on the part of many that the best potential nominees for president — namely Fred Thompson and Newt Gingrich — aren’t even in the mix.

Is it really an apocalypse for the GOP? Or is a weird coalition of the liberal mainstream media conjoined with the hard right making the Republican predicament out to be much worse than it really is? In my view, the case for a crisis is way overblown. While there is some truth to each of the issues raised — there are divisions, factional shifts, weak leadership and so forth — a case could be made that the Democrats suffer from most of the same maladies. So while the Republicans may be confronting challenges, they aren’t necessarily at a competitive disadvantage for 2008.

One particular weakness of the case against the Republicans is that it’s too much about inside-the-Beltway politics. Yes, Republicans on Capitol Hill aren’t functioning as a well-oiled machine. We’re at a competitive disadvantage there. But Capitol Hill is hardly all of America. At the state level, you’ll find Republican Party operations that are peak performers. Consider Florida, where the newly elected Republican governor is already so popular that Floridians may forget about Jeb Bush. And the state legislature is dominated by the GOP. Republicans hold top local offices across the state. At the other end of the country, in California, you see a Republican Party that’s bouncing back under the leadership of a suddenly stronger and more popular governor.

The focus on issue divisions is another attack on the party that misses its mark. The Republicans have always had the kinds of divisions over issues that suddenly seem to be so telling to party critics. The doomsayers who make such a big deal out of Rudy Giuliani’s moderate positions on social issues like abortion and guns forget that moderates like Gerald Ford or Nelson Rockefeller have always been able to attract support from the same 35 percent who now support the latest squish to seek the presidency. This is nothing new or different. And besides, I’m convinced that these issue differences don’t matter much once the nomination is decided. After we have a nominee, the ranks start to close.

In the end, it’s not conservative issues or ideology that defines the Republican coalition today. Instead, the framework around which the party is built is principally demographic, focused on the South, select suburbs, rural areas and traditional families (i.e., households with a daddy, mommy and kids). These building blocks of the party are not under the same siege that afflicts conservatism. So even though issues like Iraq and immigration are roiling the waters of Long Island or Chicago’s Lakefront, they’re not cracking the bedrock of GOP support in climes like Atlanta’s northern suburbs or rural Iowa’s farm communities. GOP fortunes were more threatened in the Reagan years, when GOP support in the rural Midwest was eroded by rural opposition to the Gipper’s farm policies. Southern support of the GOP was under greater duress when the first Bush raised taxes than under the current Bush.

Whoever wins the Republican nomination will find a much stronger and more resilient party base than most party critics now surmise.

Hill is director of Hill Research Consultants, a Texas-based firm that has polled for GOP candidates and causes since 1988.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: baloney; crackpot; nonsense; stopsmokingcrack
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1 posted on 05/23/2007 12:23:13 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: JeanS

Whether or not there is an apocolypse depends on decisions made by the GOP. It’s still not too late to save the party.


2 posted on 05/23/2007 12:26:25 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: JeanS

Good article.


3 posted on 05/23/2007 12:27:07 PM PDT by John Cena
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To: JeanS

Fred.


4 posted on 05/23/2007 12:27:19 PM PDT by roaddog727 (BullS##t does not get bridges built)
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To: JeanS

Rudy would destroy the R party.

Illegal amnesty could do it too.


5 posted on 05/23/2007 12:27:32 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: JeanS

“will find a much stronger and more resilient party base”
Pass “The Globalist Wet Dream and Mexico Ass-Kissing Act of 2007” and see what happens.


6 posted on 05/23/2007 12:27:43 PM PDT by dynachrome (Henry Bowman is right.)
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To: JeanS

Sorry, but this is very shallow and unpersuasive.
The GOP is, in fact, in deep trouble. And to say that the California party is in good shape just because Arnold is popular is simply laughable. He’s not us, not by a long shot. Even if he were, it wouldn’t mean the CA GOP is in good shapr.


7 posted on 05/23/2007 12:28:46 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: freeangel

I agree. They better find their principles fast and denounce the insults of party members like Lindsey Graham.


8 posted on 05/23/2007 12:29:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: JeanS

Bush’s problem is he is a RINO.


9 posted on 05/23/2007 12:30:22 PM PDT by stockpirate (IF BUSH SIGNS THIS POS IMMIGRATION BILL, I WILL NOT VOTE REPUBLICAN AGAIN!)
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To: JeanS

RUN FRED RUN!!!


10 posted on 05/23/2007 12:30:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("All the measures of the law should protect property and punish plunder." --Frederic Bastiat)
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To: JeanS; Jim Robinson
The doomsayers who make such a big deal out of Rudy Giuliani’s moderate positions on social issues like abortion and guns forget that moderates like Gerald Ford or Nelson Rockefeller have always been able to attract support from...blahblahblah...I’m convinced that these issue differences don’t matter much once the nomination is decided.

"Principles? We don't need no stinkin' principles."

11 posted on 05/23/2007 12:31:08 PM PDT by M203M4 (What I wanna see is a pro-war ("kill the bastards") Ron Paul. Pacifism is suicide.)
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To: JeanS
At the state level, you’ll find Republican Party operations that are peak performers.

That sure is true here in Colorado where Republicans have lost the state House and Senate and the governorship as well as a seat in the US Senate and one in the House.

When I called to voice my objection to the amnesty bill, the person who answered the phone she could put me through to a line where I could 'record' my comments. Not talk to a GOP party representative...just a recording. Talk to the machine cause the Party is not listening.

Yep. The Republican Party is functioning on all cylinders at the state level here in Colorado.

These people are only fooling themselves.
12 posted on 05/23/2007 12:33:04 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: John Cena
Good article.

? I think the author is on crack. What is happening with the Amnesty Bill with utterly destroy the GOP and more importantly, our wonderful Republic. The guy writing this thinks its all a wonderful game. Our Republic is one bill aways from being destroyed and this guy thinks things will be fine?

13 posted on 05/23/2007 12:37:34 PM PDT by sand88 (q)
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To: JeanS

There are just TOO MANY Republicans in bed with TEDDY KENNEDY for what we see to be anything but an absolute apocalypse. Disagreements within a family are one thing, but taking sides against the family is another as Michael Corleone told his brother Fredo. Taking sides with Teddy Kennedy is the highest form of treachery imaginable.


14 posted on 05/23/2007 12:39:18 PM PDT by Biblebelter (I can't believe people still watch TV with the sound on.)
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To: JeanS
What I don’t understand is why people like Boehner promised the President they wouldn’t criticize the bill? Taking a stand against it would make the Republican leadership hero’s in the eyes of their base.
15 posted on 05/23/2007 12:40:13 PM PDT by The Blitherer ("What the devil is keeping the Yanks?")
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To: JeanS
in California, you see a Republican Party that’s bouncing back under the leadership of a suddenly stronger and more popular governor.

Dude, stick to the medications the doctor prescribes. No self-medicating. You start seeing things that aren't there.

16 posted on 05/23/2007 12:40:35 PM PDT by siunevada (If we learn nothing from history, what's the point of having one? - Peggy Hill)
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At the other end of the country, in California, you see a Republican Party that’s bouncing back under the leadership of a suddenly stronger and more popular governor.
***Here’s where I would begin to dismantle what this author says. He simply doesn’t know what he’s talking about.


17 posted on 05/23/2007 12:40:50 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: JeanS
The doomsayers who make such a big deal out of Rudy Giuliani’s moderate positions on social issues like abortion and guns forget that moderates like Gerald Ford or Nelson Rockefeller have always been able to attract support from the same 35 percent who now support the latest squish to seek the presidency.

Yeah, but neither of them got elected.

18 posted on 05/23/2007 12:41:16 PM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: JeanS
Hill is director of Hill Research Consultants, a Texas-based firm that has polled for GOP candidates and causes since 1988.

This is BS. Hill is a shill.

19 posted on 05/23/2007 12:42:17 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Indeed.

What is interesting is that the Iraq funding bill is getting ready to do the same to the DNC. By stripping all time lines, they just screwed over their base.


20 posted on 05/23/2007 12:43:14 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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