2004 Election Results:
Posted on 05/24/2007 6:03:30 AM PDT by Rebeleye
...he was stunned to see two large Confederate flags flying from trucks...emblazoned with the words "The South Shall Rise Again." I'm stunned, too, that people still think it is cool to fly this flag. Our society should bury these flags -- not flaunt them...because the Confederate flag symbolizes racial tyranny to so many... ...This flag doesn't belong on city streets, in videos or in the middle of civil discussion. It belongs in our past -- in museums and in history books -- along with the ideas it represents.
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LOL! Exactly!
You are still throwing stereotypical stuff around. Deliverance? C’mon that is so 70’s. By the way, The KKK has been thoroughly denounced by the southern people. Now you denounce your racists like Jessee Jackson and Al Sharpton.
There is. It has 13 alternating red and white stripes, and fifty white stars on a blue background. We're very proud of it. Even it you aren't.
No, I just would prefer a discussion on a CW thread to remain a discussion about the CW, and not merge it with current events.
You have a good day to friend.
Finally I agree with you, Non-Sequitur!
Of course; it was wartime, and tariffs were the principal means of raising government revenue throughout most of the 1800’s. An income tax in the Union raised alot of revenue from 1862 until 1872, but was highly unpopular. Not until the 1880’s were tariffs surpassed, by excise taxes of various types, as the main source of government revenue.
I was lucky enough to attend a convention there a year or two before katrina. I had a ball, but there were some things I didn’t get to see, like the D Day museum(?)
I’ll get down that way before much longer, I suspect.
Its the Nazification of my forefathers by the PC Police and I’m sick of it. Below is a Great book I would recomend if you or your ancestors were from the South. There is no reason we should be ashamed, and this book gives you plenty of reasons to be proud.
The Politically Incorrect Guide to the South: by Clint Johnson
http://south.politicallyincorrectguide.com/offers/offer.php?id=PGSTH001
What the PC police don’t want you to know—and what they got plain wrong—about the South
From the Founding Fathers to the frontiersmen who tamed the West to the country music, NASCAR, Bible-thumping heart of “Red State” America, the South is the quintessence of what’s original, unique, and most loved about American culture. Yet, thanks to the PC police, the heritage and culture of the South is under attack. The PC establishment is so intent on spreading the myth of the South as prejudiced and ignorant that it even wants to rewrite its history.
But author Clint Johnson rises up in fierce resistance to the second war against the South. He reveals that, far from being the backwater of the nation, the South has always been the center of American culture and history, and that the South is truly rising again. He provides you with the information you need to fight the battles being waged against Southern heritage and pride.
The Politically Incorrect Guide™ to the South (and Why It Will Rise Again) is here to even the score by taking a stand for Dixie, and proving why the South, its traditional values, military service, good manners, and fierce independence will certainly rise again.
Thanks! I’ll check it out.
So did the democrat party but they're still around.....
If you do...well, surprise!
Money runs this country, people with a lust for power run this country, Corporate elites dictate policy.
There isn’t a plug nickels difference between the two parties at this point in time.
Sorry to break this to ya, but we live in an oligarchy not a representative republic any longer.
If I mention segregation, slavery, lynching, Dixiecrats, or terrorist organizations like the KKK, southerners get all red-faced and their panties in a bunch and want to start the war all over again. Some of you say I need a history lesson. Well, until you can demonstrate to me what the heck “southern pride” is in real terms that don’t involve eating BBQ, listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd, or anybody remotely involving the movie Deliverance, my impression is that You People still have a major PR problem.”
LOL Thats the funniest thing I have read in a while. The North doesn't need a flag. Our pride stands tall in our towering sky scrapers, beutifull cities, strong industrial base, and prosperous peoples of all colors and creeds living side by side.
I always hear that the south didn't rebel because of slavery but in defense of states rights, but what other rights of the southern states were being violated other than the threat of abolition??? Furthermore the southern states were acting illegaly and against the constitution by denying others their god given right to liberty, which is why almost all Northern states abolished slavery shortly after the US Constitution was sighned, because slavery is unconstitutional.
Very true. That's why I said "currently concentrated", not "exclusively found".
The majority of people from all races, all nations have a few things in common.
Raise a family, work, trust in a higher being “God”, enjoy family time and so forth.
I refuse to buy into the myth that everyone in the south was oppressive.
It doesn’t matter what color your skin happens to be, we are all God’s children.
I really look up to Dr. King. He in my opinion was set in motion by the creator to right a terrible wrong.
We learned our lessons, we as a nation are for the most part past all this....that is if we stop giving the poverty pimps face time on T.V.
There are those who wish to keep this race division going for profit. Purely shameful.
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Why do you say John Brown was scum?He was a devout fundamentalist Christian and conservative in most of his moral beliefs.
He just believed slavery was an abomination and used pretty extreme tactics to see it abolished.
Unwise in retrospect perhaps but it certainly doesn’t make him”scum”.
Thats the problem, some like yourself think the South’s rememberance of its own history is ‘bigotry’.
Its not. Its family history as much as anything else. The common myth found in the North is everybody involved in the war on the Southern side was pro slavery, which simply isn’t true. They think they were all racists, which is only arguable if you apply today’s standards to a society that literally ‘disappeared’ over 150 years ago.
Most Southerners I’ve had the pleasure to meet and call friends remember the ‘fight’, the good fight. Its not called ‘The Last Gentlemen’s War’ for nothing.
You don’t find anyone calling for reinstatement of slavery, for goodness sake, yet some in the North pretend thats what the CSA battle flag, and the “South will Rise Again” means.
Its simply not the case at all. Its a matter of regional pride in their forefathers that had the guts to ‘stare across the deadly space’. Its about a war in which the entire adult population of countless towns throughout the South were literally decimated...and yet they still fought on. Its about valor, and courage, and honor, and honoring those that fell - on both sides btw, in my experience.
Northerners, when this topic comes up, as you inadvertently demonstrate, prefer to look to the worst aspects whenever a CW thread comes up.
We all know what those ‘aspects’ were.
By the third year of the war, those troops, especially those in the Army of Northern Virginia, were not fighting for slavery, far from it. By that point, nobody was thinking much about ‘The Cause’ at all, they were fighting for their brothers - literally, and their neighbors - again literally, because of the unusual nature of the war itself.
Next time you feel the urge to slam those that find the CSA ‘battleflag’ a source of pride, perhaps consider they were fighting, and dying, along with their family and friends.
I don’t respect ‘The Cause’.
I have a very deep and abiding respect for all who ‘stared across the deadly space’. I admire the raw courage it took to walk across that deadly field in Gettysburg on July 3rd, 1863....just as I admire those that held the copse of trees that was the focal point of a charge of 12 - 15 thousand members of an army that had routinely kicked the Army of the Potomac’s ass for the past year. I’m amazed at that courage it took to cross, and recross the cornfield at Sharpsburg/Antietam. Let alone trying to defend, or attack the infamous ‘sunken road’ now referred to as ‘Bloody Lane’.
To insinuate looking at those unbelievable men, on both sides, with awe, and admiration is to admit to not understanding family, in short.
They aren’t ‘celebrating slavery’ with this, nor are they even hinting at it. That only comes from Northerners with a false axe to grind in my opinion.
Think about this next time you want to besmirch the South, friend.
Fair enough.
Its been said the Civil War was bracketed by two madmen.
John Brown and John Wilkes Booth.
I think its a very good point.
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