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There's lazy, and then there's Las Vegas lazy.
KOMORadio.com ^ | 05/25/2007

Posted on 05/25/2007 2:05:06 PM PDT by devane617

There's lazy, and then there's Las Vegas lazy.

In increasing numbers, Las Vegas tourists exhausted by the four miles of gluttony laid out before them are getting around on electric "mobility scooters."

Don't think trendy Vespa motorbikes. Think updated wheelchair.

Forking over about $40 a day and their pride, perfectly healthy tourists are cruising around Las Vegas casinos in transportation intended for the infirm.

You don't have to take a step. You don't even have to put your drink down.

"It was all the walking," 27-year-old Simon Lezama said on his red Merits Pioneer 3. Lezama, a trim and fit-looking restaurant manager from Odessa, Texas, rented it on day three of his five-day vacation, "and now I can drink and drive, be responsible and save my feet."

The Las Vegas Strip is long past its easily walkable days. Casinos alone are nearly the size of two football fields. That doesn't count the hotel rooms, shopping malls, spas, convention centers, bars and restaurants.

And that's just inside. For tourists who plan to stroll from one big casino to another, there are crowds, construction sites and long stretches of sun-baked sidewalks between.

A tourist could accidentally get some exercise.

"We're seeing more and more young people just for the fact that the Strip has gotten so big, the hotels are so large," said Marcel Maritz, owner of Active Mobility, a scooter rental company whose inventory also includes wheelchairs, crutches and walkers.

Most of those using the scooters are obese, elderly or disabled. But many are young and seemingly fit.

The number of able-bodied renters has grown in the past few years to represent as much as 5 percent of Maritz's business, he said. The company, which contracts with some casinos, has a fleet of about 300 scooters.

"It makes it a lot easier for people to see everything," he said.

At full throttle the scooters open up to about 5 mph, though crowded sidewalks allow little opportunity for such speeds. They can go anywhere wheelchairs can - elevators, bars, craps tables - but are banned from streets. They come with a quick operating lesson, an instruction booklet, a horn and a basket.

"At first, I figured it was for handicapped people, but then I saw everybody was getting them. I figured I might as well, too," Lezama said.

Las Vegas has other transportation options, although each has its problems. The Strip is regularly clogged with cabs and drive-in tourists. A double-decker bus system, dubbed the Deuce, often gets stuck in the mess. A $650 million monorail with stops at eight casinos has been plagued by poor ridership, perhaps because it runs behind the resorts, well off the Strip and out of sight.

Police and casino workers often use bicycles.

Some find the notion of using a device intended for disabled people unethical.

"It's the same principle as parking in a handicap spot," Mike Petillo, 64, a disabled tax accountant who recently visited from New York City.

Several hotel bell desk workers - who handle most of the rental requests from tourists - said they try to discourage people who do not appear to need the scooters from renting. But refusing the self-indulgent is not really an option.

"You can't really discriminate against anybody," said Tom Flynn, owner of Universal Mobility. "We don't require a prescription or an explanation of why they need it."

Michelle Bailey, a slender, apparently healthy 22-year-old, used a scooter to get around a recent pool tournament at the Riviera hotel-casino. "Four-inch heels," she explained with a laugh, pointing to her lipstick-red pumps.

But Troy Burgess, a 21-year-old optician visiting from Detroit, said he considers it "immoral" for an able-bodied person to rent wheels. And not only that, but "you probably wouldn't pick up too many chicks on that scooter."


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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Personally I find morbidly obese people riding motorized wheelchairs scouting out the baked goods something to chuckle at. It adds to Walmarts ambiance!
121 posted on 05/27/2007 11:07:35 AM PDT by linn37 (Love your Phlebotomist)
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To: reagandemo

I am fairly young to have arthritis, there are days I would give anything to use one and probably should. I have given up shopping malls and big stores due to pain. I am sure that I look way to young to be on those kinds of things. The day I cave in and use one I am sure someone will say much the same about me.


122 posted on 05/27/2007 11:07:54 AM PDT by tioga (Fred Thompson for President.)
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To: Vision

We’re just east of the middle of the state.

Grab a map of Nevada that’s about the size of 1/2 of letter page.

Stab your finger down on where you think the exact center of the state is. Look to the right of where your finger is: that’s where we are: Diamond Valley. We’re what is called “high desert.” Hot days, cold nights. It isn’t uncommon to have 90F during the day, and 38F at night in early or late summer. In the hottest part of the summer, we get down to only 50F at night. Positively balmy.

Here in Nevada, there are lots of ranches and farms that are rather isolated — much more isolated than folks from back east call “rural.” Some of these ranches are off the grid; they have gensets and pump irrigation water with diesel engines at the wellhead. There are some who have some solar power installations. Some ranchers just get by without. They’re pretty much working the same way they did when Brigham Young sent forth the pioneers in 1849 to nail down land that had water. Those “pioneer” ranches don’t need to pump irrigation water; those early Mormon ranches were located where a stream or spring came out of the base of a mountain and the meadows were naturally irrigated.

There are roads, but you’re probably looking for something black. Most of the roads outside the urban counties in Nevada are packed dirt. They’re maintained by our county road crews twice a year, and you can tool along on them from 40 to 70 MPH, just spiffy.

Their mail? If they’re really isolated, they’ll be forced to drive into a town where their PO box is. They just rent a big PO box, so it can hold a couple weeks’ worth of mail.

Sometimes, they are on a “HCR” - “highway contract route”, where a US Mail contractor drives a route that includes a string of these ranches twice or three times a week. In this case, the boxes will be at the end of a road, or on a centrally located ranch, and neighboring ranches will drive to the collection of boxes. Sometimes neighbors trade off driving to town to get mail. When they get motivated and want to be paid for their fuel, they sign up to become a USPS contractor, the USPS designates the roads they drive as an HCR and there ya go: mail delivery to within 20 miles of your door. Addresses for some of these ranches look like this:

Big Hat Ranch
HCR 63211, Box 11
Austin, NV (zipcode)

The HCR 63211 is the contract #. The “Box” is the box along the route.

Stores? You drive into town. We have one grocery store in town here, but for big shopping, we drive 120 miles up to Elko. These ranchers will appear in town every other week or so. We’ve been in stores 300 miles away and run into neighbors from the next valley over, who are also “in town” shopping. Again, many of these ranches just do without. They’re raising beef, so meat is readily available. Even Angus cows give milk. They raise their own food on many of these ranches, and nail a deer/pronghorn or two come hunting season for variety.

Police department? They’re who shows up to protect the criminals. Rural Nevadans are armed to the teeth. Criminals who are stupid enough to do something out in the boonies here are usually very, very happy to see the sheriff’s deputies show up. It means that a) the deputies end the arguing between the husband and wife which gun from their collection they want to use to shoot the perp, b) the perp realizes he might live and c) the perp has reason to hope his body will be found even if he doesn’t live.

In general, rural Nevadans spend a fair bit of time on the road. The people in cities who advocate nonsense like “drive 55 MPH” are our biggest annoyance, because it takes a long time to get anywhere at 55MPH. City slickers think 55MPG is “high speed.” In general, the speed limits out here are 70 to 75MPH, and if you’re a local, on good terms with law enforcement, they won’t pull you over if you’re under 80 in a 70 zone, 85 in a 75 zone. If you’re under 85 and they pull you over, they might give you a ticket for “wasting natural resources” because the Feds want to see “X” so many tickets issued for speeding per quarter to maintain our highway funding.

Unless of course, you’re in a luxury car with California or Utah plates. Then you’d better keep to the speed limits, because you’re the preferred target vehicles on our roads.

That said, there are neighbors (ie, folks within a 100 mile radius) who I don’t see more than perhaps twice a year — once at the Independence Day parade/party, and once at the auto parts store Christmas party. They’re too busy to get off the ranch all that often.

Whatever you do, never, ever, ever speed through rural Nevada towns, where the limits will always be 25MPH, 15MPH in a school zone. If you do, you can expect to be busted and busted hard for speeding. There are kids, dogs and old ladies in the middle of these towns, and they’re used to having the right of way. If someone who is stopped for speeding through these small towns lips off to the LEO’s... well, Mr. Lippy is in for a long day. There ain’t much crime around here, and the sheriffs departments don’t have a lot to do. They just love people who lip off to cops. Breaks up their day.

As for your outbound flight: what you speak of is the difference between the “low desert” (Vegas) and the “high desert” (where we are). If you look at your map of Nevada, look for a road that runs (roughly) east/west that is US Route 6. South of this road is the low desert, north is the high desert. The road runs mostly at the bottom of the plateau where the high desert begins. If you drive US-6 from Tonopah to Lund, there are places where you can look to your right and see the low desert, and when you look left, you can literally see the sagebrush is a foot to two feet taller, and there are pinyon pine or juniper trees on your left, whereas on your right there is nothing but saltbrush, shade scale, low sagebrush and some very hardy grasses.


123 posted on 05/27/2007 11:13:03 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: Mr. Jeeves

If y’all want to go to properties that are neither, look for the “Stations” casinos around the fringe of Vegas. That’s where Nevadans and Vegas locals like to go. They’re clean, modern, very nice, with very good food, but they’re not these over-the-top imitation cites like Paris, New York, the Luxor, etc.

http://www.stationcasinos.com/


124 posted on 05/27/2007 11:19:19 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: Ditter

I go up there every so often for meetings and I just avoid the strip completely when going places. Driving is pretty easy if you never touch Las Vegas Blvd. Get a map and use the other streets.


125 posted on 05/27/2007 11:24:01 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Larry Lucido

Handicapped stalls in restrooms are for everyone if no disabled person is waiting. They are absolutely marvelous for moms with strollers or a few little kids that can’t be left alone outside the stalls. I am so very happy they exist.


126 posted on 05/27/2007 11:31:03 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

That was my advice, get a map and drive yourself.


127 posted on 05/27/2007 11:34:47 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: NVDave

Yes, I like Red Rock a lot - I usually go see movies out there. A bit of a drive, but a nice change.


128 posted on 05/27/2007 11:35:30 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("Wise men don't need to debate; men who need to debate are not wise." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: HitmanLV

I have gone to Vegas for personal reasons so many times in the past two years that it’s really growing on me. I love the fact that wherever you look, you see hills and mountains. Often I am up there only for the day and it’s always a pleasure. I can get there faster than driving across L.A. some days. When we stay over, we stay off strip (but with a lovely view of it) and make food in our room (the lovely Platinum hotel is all suite with full kitchens) and just sit and enjoy the view.

My aunt and uncle (elderly) left Bel Air several years ago and moved to Vegas and I was always surprised how much they seem to like it. The heat is scary, but other than that, I can kind of see why they like it now.


129 posted on 05/27/2007 11:38:57 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: nwrep

Anytime I go, I plan on seeing just 3 or 4 casinos. You can’t see ‘em all!!!!

I’d have to get married a LOT more times to see all of Vegas!

;-)


130 posted on 05/27/2007 11:43:12 AM PDT by bannie
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Very true - just different sets of people with different ideas of a nice night in Sin City, that’s all.


131 posted on 05/27/2007 11:49:47 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: nwrep
Yes, the strip is huge.

I got plenty of exercise just making my way around Ceasar's Palace in April for a National conference. The hotel has 2 huge towers, a pool the size of a football field, a small casino you pass through, plus shops and restaurants, even before you make it from your lobby to the tower televators. Past those, there is a larger casino, more shops, an indoor theater, monster sized dance clubs, then a mall attached to it. All of this, even before you make it outdoors.

It feels like a mini-city, and that's just one of them.

Didn't dine at the all you can eat buffets, mind you; I ate at the restaurants. Outstanding food! Oh, my! Delicious, but not cheap! One restaurant charged a chunk of change for a wedge salad - some lettuce, tomatoes, and dressing. I thought, there is no way these ingredients are worth anything close to that much money, until they brought out a platter that could feed an entire village in Somalia. That salad was a meal all by itself, and I still had some fabulous baked chicken with garlic mashed potatoes, and steam string beans coming!

You figure with all the food available, you could pack on some serious weight; but if you walked around enough, it didn't matter.

If you are a Sopranos fan, there is an episode this season that was taped at Caesar's. It will give you some idea of the size of the place, particularly when Tony is by the pool. They only show a small part of it (there are several other smaller pools surrounding it for private parties), but even that background shot can give you an idea of how massive it is.

132 posted on 05/27/2007 11:50:56 AM PDT by WriterInTX (I'M MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE)
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To: Yaelle

It’s a great city and my adopted hometown. Las Vegas - the city with no redeeming social value whatsoever, which in a strange way is its redeeming social value. :-)


133 posted on 05/27/2007 11:52:58 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: devane617
Last time I was in Las Vegas, (late June 2006) the daytime temperature was 115 and it cooled off to the high 90's around mid-night. While I would feel uncomfortable driving one of these things, there is something about walking around in that heat all day and ending up smelling like the third day of telecommuting.

Whoever came up with the Deuce should get a raise, and maybe have a street named after him.

134 posted on 05/27/2007 11:54:24 AM PDT by Bernard (You can't fix stupid. Stop trying.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

I guess everybody has to do their own thing. Las Vegas doesn’t impress me one bit, I’d rather spend my time on the Oregon coast or the Montana wilderness.


135 posted on 05/27/2007 11:55:33 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Bad spellers of the world untie!!)
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To: patton

I think most of us are on the same wavelength. If a person has a legitimate disability (registered with the ADA or not) or is injured or pregnant or something, I’m all good with using the motor carts. If a person is a spry healthy 20- or 30-something who just doesn’t feel like putting forth the effort, that’s just ignorant. Why did they even go on vacation there? Sounds like the river casino boats or a Caribbean beach resort is more their speed.


136 posted on 05/27/2007 12:03:39 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Bad spellers of the world untie!!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I agree.


137 posted on 05/27/2007 12:05:26 PM PDT by patton (19yrs ... only 4,981yrs to go ;))
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I live in Las Vegas and I always make a point to tell people, especially women, who visit town to wear their walking shoes. High heels look nice and make their legs look longer and sexier, but unless you can switch to walking shoes quickly and easily, don’t do it!


138 posted on 05/27/2007 12:07:17 PM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: NVDave

Do all these people have air conditioning? Can’t imagine 125 degrees without it.

What do you think the attraction to living off the grid in Nevada is?


139 posted on 05/27/2007 7:30:11 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: dman4384
While I wouldn’t try to stop people from using these things, I disagree with you that it’s not immoral; it seems to encourage sloth which is harmful to your character.
140 posted on 05/27/2007 7:33:42 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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