Posted on 05/25/2007 4:30:11 PM PDT by drzz
Governor Darrell Flyingman of the Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes of Oklahoma put things in realistic perspective when he arose to speak. He talked about the thousands of acres of land either ceded or stolen by hook and crook from the people of his nation over the years (in Oklahoma). He said, "I consider this to be a site of a massacre (Washita battlefield, OH) and not a battlefield as it is named and I will do everything within my power to see that the site is renamed as the Washita Massacre rather than Battlefield. Gov. Flyingman said that he felt great sorrow for the friends and family members of the massacre at Virginia Tech, but he was sad the television reporters kept referring to this tragedy as the worst massacre in American history. "The massacre of American Indians at Washita, Sand Creek and Wounded Knee were just as horrible and many more died at each massacre site as what happened at Virginia Tech, but I suppose the fact that it was 'just Indians' being slaughtered meant that it was not a part of American history," he said.
Source : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tim-giago/honoring-those-who-died-a_b_46519.html
Typical rewriting of history by Native Americans. For those who haven't watched the videos about what really happened at Washita, see the link.
Your history is threatened by the blame-America-first crowd.
The indian wars were indeed often savage. Both sides took and gave no quarter. The Whites won because if superior numbers and better organization.
The Comanches were probably the fiercest fighters among all the Indian nations. Wonderful horsemen, they were the best light cavalry in the field for many years. Finally they were beaten when Sherman designed a winter campaign that caughtt them in their winter camp and took their horses. But for a half century they dominated the South Plains.
I was scared for a minute—I thought Oklahoma had actually elected a Native American governor—this is just a nominal “governor” of Native American tribes: Just another guy probably doing what he thinks needs to be done to corner another Guilty White Man Casino deal for himself and his “tribe”: another late-blooming scam and con-artist/
Both sides took and gave no quarter. The Whites won because if superior numbers and better organization.”
That isn’t true at all, the American soldier took care to limit death, they took care of their POWS, and protected women and children as best they could, they fought like demons, and then immediately switched gears to protector and provider.
The American soldier was usually out numbered and fighting on the enemies territory, facing worst than death if they were taken alive.
A hundred and fifty years ago the American soldier faced the cruelest enemy our people have ever seen, a hostile press that promoted the enemy, an indifferent public (except for the civilians in the region), and believe it or not a hostile congress.
The Indian wars were a great credit to the American soldier.
Hello
I agree with your statements about Sand Creek. Indians had white hostages (two boys) and goods from settlements in their village. They WERE guilty. They weren’t innocent, peaceful people as we say today.
However, Chivington fire the cannon and openly said that he wanted scalps (his troops took 100 of them). The legitimate attack turned into a bloodbath.
But the attack itself was legitimate.
“That isn’t true at all, the American soldier took care to limit death, they took care of their POWS, and protected women and children as best they could, they fought like demons, and then immediately switched gears to protector and provider.”
Yes, you’re right. The massacres were done by militias, civilians with weapons who had been attacked by Indians in Colorado or Wyoming. Revenge isn’t a good thing in combat, something civilians don’t understand.
One exception: Wounded Knee, with Little Big Horn in mind, the US soldiers just lost their minds after the Indians fired at us (an other treacherous attacks by Big Foot’s Ghost Dancers)
Reading the title one would get the impression that it meant the state Governor was Native American. Reading past the title reveals that it is not so. I have just appointed myself President of all Irish Americans living in Arizona. The state shall be known from this day forward as Bogtrotterland....all bow before me.
Bogtrotterland, too difficult for the name of a state ! :-)
They couldn’t find the pancakes?
The regular were constrained by military discipline. but for every regular there were a hundred militiamen and they were not. Add to this the fact that the Army used indian scouts, say Crow against Sioux, or visa versa. THEY weren’t scrupulous either.
“The regular were constrained by military discipline. but for every regular there were a hundred militiamen and they were not. “
I realize that your statement is meant as some kind of general smear, but even you must admit that it doesn’t say anything.
In the book THE INDIAN WAR OF 1864 by WARE he states that the troops under his command were elated when they heard Chivington claim his troops killed 600.
They were not happy when they found it was only about 100.
Interesting note, Chivington NEVER backed down about Sand Creek. Many years later he spoke to a crowd at a gathering celebrating Colorado’s founding. When he said the words,”I STAND BY SAND CREEK!” the crowd went wild with applause.
How many remember that it was this same Chivington who turned the tide at the battle of Glorietta Pass when his men attacked the rear train of advancing Confederate forces forcing a retreat.
I think that is what the snake eaters do.
****...but for every regular there were a hundred militiamen and they were not.***
You mean like the “undiciplined militia troops from Arkansaw” who murdered civilians during the Mexican War.
***The Comanches were probably the fiercest fighters among all the Indian nations.***
They also seemed to enjoy burning the faces off of captive white children.
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