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Does a poor upbringing make you more left wing?
The Telegraph ^ | 5/23/2007 | Roger Highfield

Posted on 05/25/2007 11:34:56 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

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To: bruinbirdman
Liberals are risk prone, are open to new views and ways, value equality and out-group relations, and exhibit high independence and self-reliance."

ROTFLMAOSTC! Yeah, right!

I grew up dirt poor, in a disfunctional family where my dad fought mental illness most of his life. I turned out slightly to the right of Atilla the Hun.
21 posted on 05/26/2007 2:59:56 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Big dog, big dog, bow-wow-wow! We'll crush crime, now, now, now!)
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To: Ronin
Thanks for sharing your personal accounts.
22 posted on 05/26/2007 3:15:49 AM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: bruinbirdman

Is your name to blame for unhappiness?

Does a poor upbringing make you more left wing?

Is a lefty in his right mind?


23 posted on 05/26/2007 3:19:37 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: Ronin
I felt a lot of anger frankly, and with it a determination that I would be self-sufficient in all things and never depend on anyone else.

I would be self-sufficient in all things and never depend on anyone else.

I feel the same way and it drives me a little crazy to see every dollar transaction taxed then to see who receives all of those tax dollars.

24 posted on 05/26/2007 3:24:00 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker (Global Warming is a cover story for Peak Oil.)
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To: cgbg

This article reads like a giant horoscope.


25 posted on 05/26/2007 4:01:14 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Lancey Howard

Because they put the kids in day care/schools at an early age which are usually run by moonbat socialists - early indoctrination.


26 posted on 05/26/2007 4:09:30 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: DB

The worst part of this is the people who wrote this trash most likely got a government grant to do it.


27 posted on 05/26/2007 4:36:35 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: bruinbirdman

I grew up poor in a two income household until my parents divorced at 13 and then we got even poorer. Conservatism grew within me, not from without.


28 posted on 05/26/2007 4:43:29 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: dasboot

dasboot, your experience was almost identical to mine - even down to the five siblings!! As a result of my similar experience, I decided I would never, EVER let the government “take care” of me! My husband and I had our financial difficulties throughout the years, but we never asked for help - instead worked harder and found our own solutions. We never whined or blamed anybody else. We learned from our mistakes and took care of ourselves. We are still not rich - but happy and contented and, most of all, optimistic. I am a much happier “righty” than the whining, complaining lefties that I know!


29 posted on 05/26/2007 5:30:50 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: Ronin
"I’m not the greatest success now, never will be a millionaire, but what I have I earned and bought with hard cash and work."

Same here!

"That’s the way it should be."

Amen to that!

30 posted on 05/26/2007 5:36:15 AM PDT by sneakers
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To: DB

Ditto! You beat me to it.


31 posted on 05/26/2007 5:43:22 AM PDT by reg45
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To: bruinbirdman
What a pile of crap this study is.
When I was a child, in the late 1930's my father earned roughly $3.00 a week to feed the entire family. Lots of times we had no electric light and rent was a very troubling thing.
We lived at the edge of economic disaster and ate mashed potatoes as the main component of most meals. Meat was not something I recall in my early days.
We grew most of our veggies. (this in New York City tenement backyard)
Until the beginning of WWII there was little or no work available that was not requiring physical challenges to a partially disabled adult male.
It could have been worse. We could have been living in Europe. Then the subject would have been moot. G.Reader would have been a puff of smoke in a Polish sky.

We survived. Things got better. Three of the children went to college/university. Two became professionals. One a pretty decent Lawman. One a successful talent manager.
Our parents were taken care of in their later years, and all of the children are freeholders or homeowners. All of our children went to college/university.
All of us are conservative, very conservative or VERY VERY conservative politically.

Some people do not understand exactly what deprivation is.
The author of this study is surely one of them.

32 posted on 05/26/2007 5:55:05 AM PDT by Gideon Reader (DEMOCRATS: Not quite American, and proud of it! REPUBLICANS: Testosterone challenged.)
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To: sneakers; dasboot
Remarkable...I too share your stories. 5 kids, parents divorced when I was 9. Government fed us "commodities".
I've always thought because I had lot of friends in the neighborhood from stable 2-parent families that this steered me towards conservatism. I interacted within these families because my own was nonexistant. I wanted the stability and emotional connections to it.
My mom was too overwhelmed with the lot of us to really be there for any of us. At the time of the divorce, the youngest child in the family was 2 and the oldest was 16. Our father was mentally unbalanced and nowhere to be seen. His momma took care of him after the divorce.
Because of the poverty we grew up in, and seeing what life could be like with a 2 parent family, I worked my behind off to make my life what it is now. It's sad though, my older sister took the brunt of my fathers illness, she is an emotional, confused, left-wing moonbat at 52. She won't speak with me anymore except to tell me that Bush is evil and I'm full of crap.
33 posted on 05/26/2007 5:55:45 AM PDT by PLOM...NOT! (Checking in from Wisconsin)
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To: bruinbirdman

Generations of welfare families will be decidedly left wing, but does that have more to do with their financial circumstances or with the moral, spiritual and ethical bankruptcy that got them where they are in the first place?


34 posted on 05/26/2007 5:59:06 AM PDT by randita
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To: Gideon Reader
“What a pile of crap this study is.”

The study isn’t saying that the causal relationships they’re discussing are 100%, but that the relationships are significant. There will always be those people/families who lived a life that the study doesn’t fit. In this case there are probably a lot of people who might have anecdotal stories that disagree with the study’s conclusions.

That, however, doesn’t mean that the study’s findings are crap.

35 posted on 05/26/2007 6:04:47 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: Gil4
Any upbringing that leaves you more left wing is a poor upbringing.

It’s interesting that my local paper, the Albuquerque Journal, had a similar story on Friday as their Front Page lead. The headline: Lean to the Left? It May Be Mommy’s Fault. It stated “Researchers at the University of New Mexico think they know why aunt Bertha is an ACLU-card-carrying liberal while cousin Winthrop is a rifle-toting conservative. Blame it on their parents. A new paper in the journal Evolution and Human Behavior suggests that those who have experienced stresses in childhood – divorce, family violence, angry parents – are more likely to be liberal. Conservatives, meanwhile, are more likely to have had less stressful childhoods.

36 posted on 05/26/2007 6:07:45 AM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: bruinbirdman
It’s too bad these researchers didn’t look into the link between children raised in the Democrat/liberal home environment and criminal activity. If they had, I think they’d have seen some truly shocking statistics.
37 posted on 05/26/2007 6:08:54 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: bruinbirdman
conservatives...prefer social inequality...

What utter bs. A more correct statement: "liberals 'perceive' that conservatives prefer social inequality."

38 posted on 05/26/2007 6:09:49 AM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: JaguarXKE
A new paper in the journal Evolution and Human Behavior suggests that those who have experienced stresses in childhood – divorce, family violence, angry parents – are more likely to be liberal. Conservatives, meanwhile, are more likely to have had less stressful childhoods.

One wonders whether there is any causation or simply correlation. In my experience people tend to reflect their parents politics; is it possible that liberals tend to divorce, have greater levels of family violence, exhibit anger, etc?

39 posted on 05/26/2007 6:13:47 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: RavenATB

It also does not mean that it is NOT!


40 posted on 05/26/2007 6:18:51 AM PDT by Gideon Reader (DEMOCRATS: Not quite American, and proud of it! REPUBLICANS: Testosterone challenged.)
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