Posted on 05/28/2007 9:33:12 AM PDT by wagglebee
The Christian attorney who fought to keep Terry Schiavo alive says the three leading GOP presidential candidates don't understand the important disability issues involved in the widely publicized 2005 case.
During a recent Republican presidential debate in California, the candidates were asked whether Congress was right to intervene in the Terry Schiavo case by attempting to prevent the state of Florida from removing the disabled woman's feeding tube. The answers varied.
Mitt Romney, former governor of Massachusetts, said he thought it "was a mistake" for Congress to get involved and the matter should have been left at the state level. Senator John McCain said Congress "probably acted too hastily." And former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani called the case a "family dispute."
David Gibbs III of the Christian Law Association says the United States gives greater due process to convicted murderers than to innocent disabled people. The former attorney for Schiavo's parents argues that Congress did the right thing when it intervened to provide her those rights.
"Many of the candidates are following the political wind, if you will, instead of showing leadership and saying, 'You know what? That was good public policy back then. We need to stand up for the disabled. We need to stand up for the senior citizens,'" Gibbs says. "We need to have that compassion for vulnerable people as opposed to taking the mindset that those people that just don't matter," he notes.
It is disingenuous, the Christian attorney contends, for candidates to claim they are pro-life but not be willing to grant due process rights to the disabled. "If you're pro-life, you have to be pro-life at every step," he says.
"Please understand: our founding fathers understood that you don't have any liberty, our Constitution doesn't matter, if you don't protect the innocent life of the citizens," Gibbs explains. "That's why they talked about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness -- your free speech, your freedom of religion, your right to own a gun or [receive] due process of law," he says. "If the government can kill you, you have no true liberty."
When Rudy Giuliani visited Florida he initially said he was in favor of assisting Terry Schiavo but later backpedaled from those comments, Gibbs points out. And in the recent GOP presidential debate, he says, only Kansas Senator Sam Brownback and Congressman Duncan Hunter of California got the issue right when they were asked about the Schiavo case.
right-to-die = right to kill. Ooops
Oh he stopped it alright...MS had medical therapy to Terri suspended once he got his $$ medical settlement...she possibly could have learned to swallow on her own with therapy that MS purposely withheld along with other abuses to her. With 'closest family' like this who needs enemies.
Yes, it is. With only a little knowledge, one might misquote Pope. Better skip on the Pierian spring, my FRiend, 'til you can handle a full vessel.
She was conscious and aware of her surroundings.
Like heck she was.
If so, it wasn't from within her corporeal form. And she was pretty durn unhelpful to anyone trying to demostrate that--recall that her father berated her and thumped her in the forehead in frustration that he couldn't get a response from her. Unlike the claims against Mr. Schiavo (which are not backed up by the nine separate investigations conducted by the Department of Children and Families), there's video of Mr. Schindler's abuse of Mrs. Schiavo.
But..Her PARENTS wanted to take care of her..
It must have been traumatic to find that the post-mortem examination showed that your preconceived notions of consciousness were wrong.
You just quoted one of the most shopworn and disproven mantras yet. Is that all you can find in your box of lib talking points?
Yes, it is.
Thank you for the demonstration.
It’s a postmodern/liberal mindset: Instead of saying one thing and doing another; it would be nice if one actually did what they say they believe, and be consistent. Not try to have it ‘both ways’.
I am so sick of this ‘post-modern’ mindset, WHY Can’t things be simple again!
“I’m going to get blasted for saying this, but this should have been left at the state level. It’s unfortunate. I’m not wholly happy with how it turned out. But individual states have traditionally dealt with this issue.”
That’s what they said about slavery.
When a state gets so twisted around that it’s killing innocent people, it’s time for the rest of us to step in.
“I’m going to get blasted for saying this, but this should have been left at the state level. It’s unfortunate. I’m not wholly happy with how it turned out. But individual states have traditionally dealt with this issue.”
That’s what they said about slavery.
When a state gets so twisted around that it’s killing innocent people, it’s time for the rest of us to step in.
She was AWAKE, there are videos supporting it. Has it occurred to you that 13 days without hydration will sufficiently dry the brain to the point that it is impossible to determine when the damage took place?
http://www.blogsforterri.com/archives/2005/03/former_nurse_re.php
I would hate to find out what salt creek is. Rudy must be up salt creek these days without a paddle or paddling.
“You may certainly disagree, but artificially receiving food and water for several years with little hope of change, is not really living”
Well, it’s not dying.
“if not unconscious, it could be a severe form of torture. You might want to decide these matters for others but I do not.”
Not deciding meant not killing her. Killing her was deciding for her.
I’m sure the NARAL WAckos will keep him company.
Obviously not...
“I was outside on the grounds when Terri was inside and she screamed in horror when she found out they were about to snuff her.”
Is that true? Can you substantiate that? Did you hear it?
“Like heck she was.”
Why in the world would you say that?
That’s like claiming...oh, I don’t know, that the Earth is flat. It’s one of those things that go beyond demonstrably false, all the way to ludicrous.
I am quite perplexed that anyone could pay the slightest attention to the issue and come away with that impression.
It’s also pro-Constitution, which includes the right to worship as we wish (and freedom from compulsion to worship), right to speak our political views (and freedom from compulsion to express our political views), right to life (and freedom from compulsion to live), etc.
I am pro-rights, including the right to life, and right of self-determination. I guess you don’t understand that.
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