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Senate Set to Slug It Out Over Immigration Bill
Wall Street Journal ^ | June 2, 2007 | Sarah Lueck

Posted on 06/02/2007 8:49:53 AM PDT by gpapa

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To: claudiustg

unfortunately allen really made a fool of himself letting that dirtbag webb beat him


61 posted on 06/02/2007 11:29:42 AM PDT by italianquaker ("blue dog democrats", that dog don't hunt)
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To: italianquaker

Both elections were squeakers. Where were the pictures of Bush with his arm around old Burnsie? Where was Bush? Cheney showed up for a 1 day fundraiser. As far as I know there were no big public appearances anywhere.

I’m starting to suspect both men were hung out to dry by the RNC (Bush) because they were too far to the right for the agenda of the WH. Paranoid?


62 posted on 06/02/2007 11:42:49 AM PDT by claudiustg (I didn't leave the Republican Party. I was purged.)
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To: italianquaker
So is that how you going to win over conservatives for 2008? Bash them endlessly but still expect them to support gutless, socialist Republicans?
63 posted on 06/02/2007 11:43:45 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: claudiustg

Paranoid? YES


64 posted on 06/02/2007 11:45:22 AM PDT by mimaw
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To: italianquaker
Maybe you are right but I do remember all the posts about teaching the Gop a lesson

Too bad the GOP hasn't learned that lesson. The people want a new direction. Give it to them or lose.
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65 posted on 06/02/2007 11:47:05 AM PDT by radioman
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To: italianquaker

>>”would of”<<

“Would of”???¿¿¿ For cryin’ out loud, would you people learn English? What you were trying to say should be expressed as “would have”. Thanks, I feel better now.


66 posted on 06/02/2007 11:49:53 AM PDT by thelastvirgil (Lest ye put all your faith in the government to provide for you, check their track record.)
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To: thelastvirgil

not worth it


67 posted on 06/02/2007 12:15:11 PM PDT by italianquaker ("blue dog democrats", that dog don't hunt)
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To: WashingtonSource
The editorial board of WSJ has already admitted this bill will go down in flames. Why the phony, hopeful optimism?

Where did you hear that? They've been shilling for this travesty called reform. I hope their political analysis is more accurate and logical than their open border idiocy.

68 posted on 06/02/2007 12:18:21 PM PDT by Maynerd (Bush is the Herbert Hoover of border security)
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To: Plutarch

Thank you for the clip. The WSJ editorial board is living in an inside the beltway echo-chamber. They really don’t get it.


69 posted on 06/02/2007 12:29:27 PM PDT by Maynerd (Bush is the Herbert Hoover of border security)
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To: Maynerd

See post 8 and click the link to a live meeting on May 22 of the Editorial Board of the Wall Street Journal headed by open borders lunatic Paul Gigot. At the beginning he starts off with a veiled concession the bill is in trouble. Near the end, John Fund, I think, says the billed is not going to make it and perhaps a smaller bill will emerge that can address the issue in a fashion more palatable to enough Senators to pass.


70 posted on 06/02/2007 12:31:27 PM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: TommyDale

I hope you are right.


71 posted on 06/02/2007 12:32:28 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Nervous Tick

“Even if it should pass the Senate, it still has to clear the House,....”

The Senate may indeed pass it, but the House is where the real fight will be. I am sure that I will develope my own “nervous tick” before it is all over.


72 posted on 06/02/2007 12:35:03 PM PDT by Bogtrotter52 (Reading DU daily so you won't hafta)
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To: Molly K.
...”During a recess last week, many senators’ offices were bombarded with phone calls...”

This is BS. I tried all week to call my Senator's home office, Kay B. Hutchison without success. Can't tell me that lines were busy Tuesday AM to Friday PM. I am sure they took the phones off the hook. I was able to leave a voice mail for Senator Cornyn. I just know these two are going to vote for it.

73 posted on 06/02/2007 12:37:05 PM PDT by engrpat
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To: gpapa

Republicans will have the wet noodles at the ready.

The only debate is how fast they will capitulate and then say amnesty is not really amnesty.


74 posted on 06/02/2007 12:39:43 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: TommyDale
Follow the money. The politicans are rarely held accoutable. We have the President of the United States, the person responsible for enforcing our laws and securing our borders, sounding like some third, uninvolved party when describing what is happening in terms of illegal immigration.

We have the Secretary for Homeland Security and most of the members of Congress describing illegal aliens as "undocumented workers." Amnesty is denied while using such euphemisms as "back of the line" and a "pathway to citizenship" and allowing 12 to 20 million people who have violated our laws multiple ways/times to stay and work here. Under normal circumstances they couldn't even qualify for a tourist visa.

We are going to pay a terrible price. It started in 1965 when Congress replaced the national origins system with a preference system designed to unite immigrant families and attract skilled immigrants to the United States. With these changes and some subsequent ones, the result was that most of our legal immigrants now come from Asia and Latin America, and not Europe. Chain migration designed to unite families has also brought in aged parents, children, uncles, etc., many of whom are not contributing to our society and in fact, require more social services. Legal immigration has increased from 178,000 a year prior to 1965 to 1.1 million a year today. Almost 60% of our legal immigrants come from Latin America. And the vast majority of the 500,000 to 1 million illegal aliens annually come from Latin America. The population of the US has increased by 53 million since 1990. We will add another 63 million in the next 23 years with three-quarters of the increase coming from immigration, legal and illegal. Hispanics, 1 percent of the population in 1950, are now 14.4 percent. Their total number has soared 25 percent since 2000 alone.

"The persistent inflow of Hispanic immigrants threatens to divide the United States into two peoples, two cultures, and two languages. Unlike past immigrant groups, Mexicans and other Latinos have not assimilated into mainstream U.S. culture, forming instead their own political and linguistic enclaves—from Los Angeles to Miami—and rejecting the Anglo-Protestant values that built the American dream. The United States ignores this challenge at its peril."

The Hispanic Challenge By Samuel P. Huntington

75 posted on 06/02/2007 12:54:23 PM PDT by kabar
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To: engrpat
Senator Cornyn has his web site in spanish as well.... nice accommodating gesture..
76 posted on 06/02/2007 2:04:23 PM PDT by JoanneSD
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

LOL!!


77 posted on 06/02/2007 3:14:40 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: TommyDale
This is still a winnable political war by lawful political and social means for OUR children and grandchildren. Let’s win it now and put those mechanisms in place to fight it forever more.

This is the Second Mexican American War and either we win or they win..

Their Poster Boy is that thug grabbing his crotch in LA.. the red & black masked terrorists whom our police are afraid to confront. Those and the 100,000 other Gangsters whose origins are from Central and South America.

Among ours should be Juan Seguin who suffered cruelly for his honorable and courageous service to Texas and America. He and all the Tejanos who fought at the Alamo and the battle of San Jacento where we exacted revenge against our enemy.. We must openly honor and support our fellow Americans who have served and fought for the America since the 1700's, We cannot afford to allow the politically corrupt to separate us or deny any Americans heritage to increase the profits of Corporate Suits, fat cat donors, perhaps even foreign governments with which they may be secretly aligned.

http://www.seguinfamilyhistory.com/jnsmason.html

"Personal Memoirs Written in the year 1858, the following is from the Personal Memoirs of Colonel Juan N. Seguin.....

HERO OF THE TEXAS REVOLUTION, ROBBED OF PROPERTY, NAME (One of the most gallant of all heroes of the Texas War for Independence was Juan Nepomuceno Seguin..... Native born Texan, Statesman, veteran commander of many battles, scholar, namesake for the city of Seguin and victim of the times. Following his legendary career as a leader in the Texas Revolution, Juan Seguin found himself slandered, robbed of property and in peril for his life by his own countrymen - forcing him to flee to a foreign county - Mexico.

(The following is his story of that time, as written by his own hand).

PREFACE by Juan N. Seguin: "A native of the City of San Antonio de Bexar,

I embraced the cause Texas at the report of the first cannon which foretold of her liberty; filled an honorable situation in the ranks of the conquerors of San Jacinto, and was a member of the legislative body of the Republic. I now find myself, in the very land, which in other times bestowed on me such bright and repeated evidences of trust and esteem, exposed to the attacks of scribblers and personal enemies, who, to serve, political purposes, and engender strife, falsify historical facts, which they are but imperfectly acquainted. I owe it to myself, my children and friends, to answer them with short, but true exposition of my acts, from the beginning of my public career, to the time of the return of General Woll from the Rio Grande, with the Mexican forces, amongst which I was then serving. I address myself to the American people; to that people impetuous, as the whirlwind, when aroused by the hypocritical clamors of designing men, but just, impartial and composed, whenever men and facts are submitted to their judgment.

I have been the object of the hatred and passionate attacks of some few disorganisers, who, for a time, ruled, as masters, over the poor and oppressed population of San Antonio. Harpy-like, ready to pounce on everything that attracted the notice of their rapacious avarice, I was an obstacle to the execution of their vile designs. They, therefore, leagued together to exasperate and ruin me; spread against me malignant calumnies, and made use of odious machinations to sully my honor, and tarnish my well earned reputation.

A victim to the wickedness of a few men, whose imposture was favored by their origin, and recent domination over the country; a foreigner in my native land; could I be expected stoically to endure their outrages and insults? Crushed by sorrow, convinced that my death alone would satisfy my enemies, I sought for a shelter amongst those against whom I had fought; I separated from my country, parents, family, relatives and friends, and what was more, from the institutions, on behalf of which I had drawn my sword, with an earnest wish to see Texas free and happy.

In that involuntary exile, my only ambition was to devote my time, far from the tumult of war, to the support of my family, who shared in my sad condition.

Fate, however, had not exhausted its cup of bitterness. Thrown into a prison, in a foreign country, I had no alternative left, but to linger in a loathsome confinement, or to accept military service. On one hand, my wife and children, reduced to beggary and separated from me; on the other hand, to turn my arms against my own country. The alternative was sad, the struggle of feelings violent; at last the father triumphed over the citizen; I seized a sword that galled my hand. (Who amongst my readers will not understand my situation?) I served Mexico; I served her loyally and faithfully; I was compelled to fight my own countrymen, but I was never guilty of the barbarous and unworthy deeds of which I am accused by my enemies.

Ere the tomb closes over me and my contemporaries, I wish to lay open to publicity this stormy period of my life; I do it for friends as well as for my enemies, I challenge the latter to contest, with facts, the statements I am about to make, and I leave the decision unhesitatingly to the witnesses of the events"......

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http://www.seguinfamilyhistory.com/

Read it and weep at the reprehensible conduct of those men who standing on the shoulders of Giants spit upon those very same American Heroes who risked and often lost all for liberty. Is it not the same today with those would be Demi Gods in Washington lording over the Nation built by the blood and courage of their betters?

Those who came before us deserve better from all of us than to let their legacy’s be hijacked by would be destroyers of the American people and our way of life.

W

78 posted on 06/02/2007 4:03:09 PM PDT by WLR
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To: LadyPilgrim

Love your tagline. I can only say “Amen” and “me too”.


79 posted on 06/02/2007 9:36:34 PM PDT by no dems ( Dear God, how much longer are you going to let Ted Kennedy and Robert Byrd live?)
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To: no dems

Thank you dear one! Amen to you too!

Hope you have a great Lord’s Day and are blessed! ;-)
And I like your name...AND your tag line as well!

On your tag line...............I wonder this same thing sometime! ;-)


80 posted on 06/03/2007 3:12:56 AM PDT by LadyPilgrim ((Jesus is real, He will never fail...I will serve him now, and throughout all eternity! ))
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