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Military action in Iran not in anyones interest, says Gates
Malaysia Sun ^ | 02JUN07 | Malaysia Sun

Posted on 06/02/2007 6:03:42 PM PDT by familyop

A diplomatic solution is the best way to deal with Iran’s nuclear program, U.S. Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates has said.

"Having to take care of this problem militarily is in no-one’s interest,” he said.

Speaking Saturday at the sixth annual International Institute of Strategic Studies’ Asia Security Summit in Singapore, Gates expressed optimism about progress in curbing North Korea’s nuclear ambitions through the “Six-Party Talks.” He said he’s hopeful the diplomatic approach will prove successful in addressing Iran’s efforts, too.

Iran poses a threat to Southwest Asia and potentially Europe, particularly as it builds missiles of increasing range, Gates told defense and military leaders from 25 Asian nations during his keynote address.

During a question-and-answer session that followed the speech, Gates said the U.S. intelligence community generally agrees that Iran will be able to develop a nuclear weapon sometime between 2010 and 2015, and possibly even earlier. “There are those who believe that that could happen much sooner, in late 2008 or 2009,” he said.

Efforts to get Iran to suspend its uranium enrichment activities aren’t aimed at legitimate energy-production programs, he stressed. “I don’t think anyone begrudges Iran the capacity to have peaceful nuclear power under proper safeguards and supervision,” he said. “They key is whether they will have nuclear weapons.”

That’s a distinction Gates said is impossible to make due to the way Iran conducts its affairs. “The reality is … we really don’t know,” he said.

As a result, Gates called on the United Nations Security Council to “ratchet up pressure” on Iran, “not next year or the year after, but right now.”

In addition, he called for the international community to come together to strengthen sanctions against Iran so it has to make some hard decisions.

These sanctions would force the Tehran government to “begin to face some serious tradeoffs in terms of their economic well-being and their economic future for having nuclear weapons,” Gates said.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; nuclear; proliferation; weapons
...the latest on our expensive bluff.
1 posted on 06/02/2007 6:03:48 PM PDT by familyop
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To: familyop

No-one’s interest huh? I guess Israel doesn’t count?


2 posted on 06/02/2007 6:05:05 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (I would rather vote for Lindsay Lohan than Lindsey Graham.)
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To: ovrtaxt

>> “Having to take care of this problem militarily is in no-one’s interest,” [Gates] said.

... as opposed to doing nothing and watching our troops and innocent civilians killed by Iranian weapons? And Iran get nukes?

... as opposed to watching our naive and incompetent state department being led around by the nose by these vermin... for no good purpose?

Sorry, Mr. Gates. It’s not in IRAN’s best interest, but it might just be in ours!


3 posted on 06/02/2007 6:11:35 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: ovrtaxt
Contrary to popular belief, Bill Gates did not invent the Internet or computers.

Him and his associates created DOS.

An awesome legacy.

Dear Bill Gates, please debug DOS (now commonly known as Windows) and prove that you are perfect before you get back on your high horse and continue to torture us with your opinions.

It ain’t as if we have not given you enough money already.

4 posted on 06/02/2007 6:11:40 PM PDT by Radix (Lighting a flame to dead leaves, and inhaling the toxic vapors associated is pretty dumb.)
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To: Radix

(psst! wrong Gates!) :P


5 posted on 06/02/2007 6:13:41 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (I would rather vote for Lindsay Lohan than Lindsey Graham.)
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To: Radix

BOB Gates. SecDef


6 posted on 06/02/2007 6:14:01 PM PDT by Snickersnee (Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket?)
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To: familyop
“The reality is … we really don’t know,” he said.

Well, that makes me feel much better. Some of us do not want to wait until we are 100% sure!

7 posted on 06/02/2007 6:15:24 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: familyop
>"Military action in Iran not in anyones interest, says Gates"

Something makes me think the Iranians aren't listening to your advice Monsieur Gates!

8 posted on 06/02/2007 6:17:12 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (The liberty we prize is not America’s gift to the world, it is God’s gift to humanity.”GWB-03)
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To: ovrtaxt

Wrong Gates?

I don’t care.

I am an idiot with a keyboard.....

Let the chips fall.....


9 posted on 06/02/2007 6:20:09 PM PDT by Radix (Lighting a flame to dead leaves, and inhaling the toxic vapors associated is pretty dumb.)
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To: Radix

haha Having a good Saturday night?


10 posted on 06/02/2007 6:22:21 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (I would rather vote for Lindsay Lohan than Lindsey Graham.)
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To: ovrtaxt
"No-one’s interest huh? I guess Israel doesn’t count?"

...to most of us, not any more than watching our kids or actually cooking meat before eating it. We're a nation of morally bankrupt slobs. We prostrate ourselves before hateful nations and betray our allies.
11 posted on 06/02/2007 6:23:23 PM PDT by familyop (Enjoy your pork tartare, comrades und freundes.)
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To: familyop; All

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IRAN publically stated recently that:

“It’s now time for the world to start imagining a world without an America in it”

.

Former President CLINTON publically stated after the 9/11 Attacks that:

“There may not even be an America around in 300 years”

.

And thus THE Battle of the 21st Century has been defined and enjoined by our Enemies...
...within & without.

.


12 posted on 06/02/2007 6:23:35 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: familyop

A diplomatic solution...Yes, because those have been SO successful in the past.


13 posted on 06/02/2007 6:24:56 PM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: arderkrag
Yes, because those have been SO successful in the past.

The same could be said of open ended police actions. Especially wandering around the Middle East ought to just bring us loads of success....

Let's see Rice has said it, Gates has said it, may just be the new 'conservatives' are finally falling out of favor.

14 posted on 06/02/2007 6:28:31 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: ovrtaxt

I was just thinking that too. Did they just throw Israel overboard? Of course doing something about Iran is in someone’s interest. It is in my interest. And Israel might be coaxed to say they would be interested in smashing Iran’s nuclear dreams, but Gates is SecDef and he knows lots more than me. He probably thinks we are going to shut our borders too. It takes a guy with lots of degrees to make statements that make no sense.


15 posted on 06/02/2007 6:31:34 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Radix

There’s one similarity between B. Gates and R. Gates.

MS said, “Where Do you Want to Go Today?” Import moguls and others exclusively consider, “How much money do I want to make today?” If we take down Iran’s nuclear facilities and military forces, oil will go up sooner and freight fuel with it. But it won’t go up as much as it will after Iran has more built-up military forces with nukes mounted.

It’s all about today. And in the minds of our Party fellows with “class,” tomorrow doesn’t matter. Anyone who’s watched a spoiled kid grow up (or refuse to grow up) knows what’s going on.


16 posted on 06/02/2007 6:32:41 PM PDT by familyop (Enjoy your pork tartare, comrades und freundes.)
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To: billbears

Face it, history is iron-clad. Sanctions don’t work. Embargoes don’t work. You aren’t going to get anywhere with diplomacy in Iran.


17 posted on 06/02/2007 6:38:05 PM PDT by arderkrag (Libertarian Nutcase (Political Compass Coordinates: 9.00, -2.62 - www.politicalcompass.org))
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To: familyop

Why steam around the middle east with a boatload of fire power and then tell Iran it is not in our interest to put them back in the 7th century? I thought that is where they wanted to be and needed our help to get there. But, as you say it was a very expensive non-starter. We are so smart at diplomacy it makes you think our pubbies will bail on our freedom loving friends too. I think they are hoping to get an agreement to have our friends shot rather than skinned. I guess that is what the negotiations are about. Can we have Reid and Pelosi shoot our friends just to be on the humanitarian side of the loss in Iraq?


18 posted on 06/02/2007 6:40:58 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: ovrtaxt

Actually, I have been posting on another thread, and I got really sloppy on this one.

Nothing new there.


19 posted on 06/02/2007 6:45:17 PM PDT by Radix (Lighting a flame to dead leaves, and inhaling the toxic vapors associated is pretty dumb.)
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To: familyop

Dear Donald Rumsfeld -

We’re really sorry. Please come back. We need you.

Sincerely,

USA


20 posted on 06/02/2007 6:47:32 PM PDT by Ogie Oglethorpe (2nd Amendment - the reboot button on the U.S. Constitution)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

>> Why steam around the middle east with a boatload of fire power and then tell Iran it is not in our interest to put them back in the 7th century?

Speaking of boatloads... the more I think about this whole boatload of crap from Gates and Condi, the more I conclude that it’s a suck-up to the G-8. W wants to polish up his “legacy”, so he’s soothing everyone’s fears just in time for the summit (at the expense of Israel, and possibly our own safety and well-being).


21 posted on 06/02/2007 6:47:47 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: familyop
Military action in Iran not in anyones interest, says Gates

Iranians are killing Americans in Iraq. I have a son who is active duty, and could be in theater at any time. That makes it as "in my interest" as it could possibly be.

22 posted on 06/02/2007 6:54:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A wolf in sheep's clothing is much more dangerous than a wolf in drag.)
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To: familyop

Since when do we telegraph our intentions?

Since when are our intentions not to deal with those who have by any standard declared war on us?

Freakin’ spineless RINOs are now running foreign policy too. Just great.


23 posted on 06/02/2007 6:56:32 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (A wolf in sheep's clothing is much more dangerous than a wolf in drag.)
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To: ovrtaxt

ovrtaxt wrote:
No-one’s interest huh? I guess Israel doesn’t count?

Dimona’s in range.

How many curies stored there?

How big would the plume be?

No, even Israel benefits from a diplomatic solution regarding Iran.

A military solution is online, but as a last resort only.

Don’t wish for it. You won’t like it.


24 posted on 06/02/2007 6:58:30 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: Nervous Tick

Yep, Israel is going to have to lead the way on Iran. We will have to join in afterwards. Bush has no political capital. None. Nada. His approval is going to match that of Olmert if he continues to bash the conservatives on immigration. Olmerts approval is like 7%.


25 posted on 06/02/2007 7:00:03 PM PDT by blasater1960
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To: EternalVigilance

To me. it looks like one provocation after another from Iran.


26 posted on 06/02/2007 7:00:47 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: blasater1960

>> Israel is going to have to lead the way on Iran

Well then, good luck to Judeo-Christian civilization as we know it... ‘cause Olmert is *also* an incompetent pandering know-it-all who has squandered his political capital.


27 posted on 06/02/2007 7:10:18 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: familyop
"Having to take care of this problem militarily is in no-one’s interest,” he said.

Maybe when Manhattan real estate goes up ... in a fireball? What might this doofus say about "taking care of this problem militarily" then?

Anyone who thinks Ahmadine-nutjob won't supply al Qaeda with a nuke is whistling past the graveyard.

28 posted on 06/02/2007 7:20:40 PM PDT by Marauder (Allah = Lucifer)
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To: familyop
Oh, come on, Bob, you're no fun.
29 posted on 06/02/2007 7:21:52 PM PDT by RichInOC (Iran War 2007: Better Late Than Never.)
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To: arderkrag
Face it, history is iron-clad

Why yes it is.

30 posted on 06/02/2007 7:47:13 PM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: Ogie Oglethorpe

“Dear Donald Rumsfeld - We’re really sorry. Please come back”
...
as president!

I have a dream...
Rumsfeld/Bolton ‘08


31 posted on 06/02/2007 9:32:42 PM PDT by baa39 (Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us. Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us.)
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To: All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1843491/posts?page=92#92


32 posted on 06/03/2007 1:06:12 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
“There may not even be an America around in 300 years”

I can't find a link on this... anyone?

33 posted on 06/03/2007 6:28:30 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

If the Democrats win in ‘08, there will not be an America , as we know it,in 10 years.

We will be more Balkanized than the Balkins.


34 posted on 06/03/2007 6:33:24 AM PDT by sport
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To: Nervous Tick

Sec. Gates is a major disappointment. Sec. Rumsfeld was the wrong man for that war, but he was, and is, a patriot. This President has had the worst record in appointments of anyone I can remember. And did Gates HAVE to come from Texas? What is it about the Bush Family and its fixation on Texas? Bring on Newt! You’ll see superb appointments, particularly the appointment of a strong Sec. of Defense.


35 posted on 06/03/2007 6:52:15 AM PDT by Paineless
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To: All; expatguy; sport; rbosque; Calpernia; ExTexasRedhead; reformjoy; conservogirl; Alamo-Girl

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After the Attacks of 9/11...

CLINTON was quoted in the Press for about one day as saying:

“There may not even be an America around in 300 years”

...and then the quote was never seen from again.

CLINTON was quoted in the Press for about one day as saying:

“America apologizes to you, the People of Nicaraqua, for fighting on the wrong side against a Communist takeover of your country in the early 1980’s” (para)

...and then the quote was never seen from again.
(This was said while touring inside a Free Nicaragua during CLINTON’s Impeachment Saga)

CRONKITE was quoted in the Press for about one day as saying:

“America’s 11 South States should now secede from the Union”

...and then the quote was never seen from again.
(This was said in a Public Address at a Year 2000 World Conference in London, England)

Shouldn’t the Press be repeating these quotes over and over again,
...especially now with the CLINTONs just itching to get back into the White House, with the support of one WALTER CRONKITE, in this new time of war with our own Freedom directly at stake right here at home..?

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36 posted on 06/03/2007 9:12:23 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: familyop
This is from the papers here in Malaysia and you can be assured that this statement will be twisted in it's meaning.

I really wish that our nation would be much more careful and consider their words before they open their mouth.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

37 posted on 06/03/2007 9:15:38 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

The only link I found on the web for that was yours. You got a link?


38 posted on 06/03/2007 9:33:08 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

The MSM isn’t going to quote anything negative that can be attributed to their Liberal allies, e.g, the Clintoons, Pelosi, traitor Murtha, etc. Therefore, it is up to us to quote them as often as possible. Conservative talk show hosts and their callers need to quote them on the air as often as possible. Our side has to get the truth out somehow. I think it would be great to plaster their words on billboards all across the country next to a picture of their smug faces.


39 posted on 06/03/2007 9:39:02 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: expatguy

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I’ve been quoting these quotes from Freedom’s Enemies from memory, from the very time of their appearances ..on.. in AP, UPI or Reuters News Media.

And I’ve been repeating them over and over again here on
Freerepublic.com ever since.
Shortly after the quotes were made I too could not find them on line.

But thank GOD for the Internet that we returning Vietnam Vets didn’t have at our disposal long ago to battle that War’s continous misreporting by the likes of CBS News Anchor WALTER CRONKITE.

And thank you very much for caring.

AR


40 posted on 06/03/2007 10:24:53 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: All; ExTexasRedhead; Carl/NewsMax; Rush Limbaugh; Sean Hannity; billoreilly; Clinton Is Scum

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PERFECT Post.

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41 posted on 06/03/2007 10:28:29 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

As they say, from our posts to God’s ear. Our very lives may depend on defeating the human debris that we’ve elected who now want to destroy everything we hold dear! The “in your face” arrogance of our elected officials local, state, and federal are a disgrace to our heritage. It is up to us to vote these scum out of office. I pray that the outrage brewing amongst American voters explodes at the next
election. American patriots, past and present, haven’t sacrificed to allow those that think of themselves as “Royalty” to stay in office. Our children and grand children’s lives depend on us now.

NEVER FORGET

I walked among the falling snowflakes today and met a soldier at Valley Forge. He held his musket in his bloody hands; he stood barefoot in the snow, starved from a lack of food, wounded from months of battle and emotionally scarred from the eternity away from his family-surrounded by nothing but death, carnage, and war.

He stood tough before me, with a bright fire in his eyes and the air of victory on his breath. He looked angered and disgusted as he said these words to me,

I gave you a birthright of freedom born in the Constitution and now your children graduate too illiterate to read it.

I fought in the snow, barefoot, to give you the freedom to vote; yet you stay home if it rains.

I left my family destitute to give you the freedom of speech; yet you remain silent on crucial issues because it might be bad for business.

I orphaned my children to give you a government to serve you; yet it has stolen democracy from the people.

How easily you forget! It is the soldier not the reporter who gives you freedom of the press.

It is the soldier not the poet who gives you the freedom of speech.

It is the soldier not the campus organizer who allows you to demonstrate.

It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves the flag, and whose coffin is draped with the flag that allows the protestor to burn the flag!!

How easily you forget! The names of those who stood beside me, who have come after me, who are coming to me now.

It is the soldier, who in his duty and honor, gives you the freedom to be free!

He glared at me for a moment or two, while his breath hastened to ease; A single tear slid down my cheek and his heart began to bleed. I walked slowly up to him and placed my hand upon his wound. His blood drenched my skin and I shook with tears and guilt while quietly he whispered, “Never forget!”

I raised my head and whispered back, “I never will!” …to the headstone on the grave that read, “Here a soldier died so you could live.”


42 posted on 06/03/2007 10:49:02 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead

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PERFECT POST II

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43 posted on 06/03/2007 11:56:00 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: expatguy; ALOHA RONNIE
"This is from the papers here in Malaysia and you can be assured that this statement will be twisted in it's meaning.

I really wish that our nation would be much more careful and consider their words before they open their mouth.
"

...quoting your comment, because a day passed before I replied. Here's some other recent news about comments from Secretary of Defense Gates and top Commander in uniform (Admiral Fallon). I don't want to believe it, either, but our import business and other lobbies have been pushing hard for appeasement for some time. Except for Duncan Hunter, politicians who lack military experience and will follow orders from those lobbies are being pushed for the Republican nomination. Foreign pressure will probably also be exerted in our election for a politician who is soft/inexperienced in defense (as the UK did in our last general election).

Gates: Diplomacy With Iran Is 'Working'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1819662/posts

Commander’s veto sank Gulf buildup (Admiral Fallon opposes military move against Iran?)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834992/posts

Top US War Boss: We Can’t Ignore Iran [No other way but “arrangement” with Iran.]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1840806/posts
44 posted on 06/03/2007 3:49:45 PM PDT by familyop (Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: Nervous Tick
"‘cause Olmert is *also* an incompetent pandering know-it-all who has squandered his political capital."

Good point...*sigh* ....

Maybe France will do it! /s

45 posted on 06/03/2007 6:49:43 PM PDT by blasater1960
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To: blasater1960

bttt


46 posted on 06/04/2007 9:02:12 AM PDT by expatguy (http://laotze.blogspot.com/)
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