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U.K: 7/7 bombs staged, say one in four Muslims (carried out by 'Government agents')
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | June 5, 2007 | Philip Johnston

Posted on 06/05/2007 8:54:41 AM PDT by Stoat

7/7 bombs staged, say one in four Muslims


By Philip Johnston, Home Affairs Editor
 
Last Updated: 2:01am BST 05/06/2007

 

A quarter of Britain's two million Muslims believe Government agents staged the July 7 suicide bombings, a new survey has found.

They think the four men named as the killers of 52 passengers on the London transport system were not responsible for the attacks.

The poll, for Channel 4 News, discovered that conspiracy theories about July 7 are rife among Muslims - similar to those about the 9/11 attacks in the United States.

It came on the day Tony Blair attended a conference on Islam and insisted Muslims "overwhelmingly" wanted to be "loyal citizens", despite the "disproportionate" public attention given to "small, groups" of radicals.

However according to last night's poll, a significant proportion - six in 10 - of British Muslims say the Government has not told the whole truth about the 2005 bombings.

More than half of the 500 Muslims polled also felt the security services had made up evidence to convict terror suspects. Muslims interviewed by Channel 4 claimed the CCTV images of the four men arriving at Luton station en route to London were ''faked''. Others said the men were made ''convenient scapegoats".

Some even dismissed as fakes the "martyrdom" videos left by Mohammed Sidique Khan and Shehzad Tanweer admitting responsibility for the bombings.

More than 60 per cent of those polled for the GFK NOP survey said they were worried that British police could shoot to kill people they suspected of being Muslim terrorists.

Earlier, Mr Blair called on moderate Muslims to stand up to extremists. He told academics, scholars and religious leaders at Cambridge University that Islam was not a "monolithic faith", but made up of a "rich pattern of diversity".

Mr Blair added: "Muslims want to play a full part in the diverse societies in which they find themselves.

''Most seek to play a part as loyal citizens of their countries and as loyal Muslims. This is of course contrary to the often crude portrayals in the media or by those who deal only in stereotypes and seek to whip up Islamophobic sentiment."

A poll for The Daily Telegraph shortly after the 9/11 attacks found a large proportion of Muslims that refused to accept they were carried out by members of their faith.

A survey after last summer's alleged plot to blow up trans-Atlantic airliners suggested that a growing number of people fear that Britain faces "a Muslim problem". More than half of the respondents to the YouGov survey said Islam posed a threat to Western liberal democracy.

Muslim groups say they are increasingly alienated from mainstream society, have no role models in key positions and are not listened to when they criticise foreign policy in Iraq and the Middle East.

Ahmed Versi, the editor of Muslim News, who attended the Cambridge conference, said: "These are the issues which are radicalising young people and he (Tony Blair) did not talk about that.''

Shahid Malik, the Labour MP for Dewsbury, where three of the July 7 bombers lived, said the findings were ''disturbing'' and there were a lot of people ''in denial''.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 77; 77bombings; britain; conspiracy; conspiracytheories; england; greatbritain; islam; muslim; muslims; terror; terrorism; uk
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It came on the day Tony Blair attended a conference on Islam and insisted Muslims "overwhelmingly" wanted to be "loyal citizens", despite the "disproportionate" public attention given to "small, groups" of radicals.

Yes, I suppose that being concerned about a specific, definable group which refuses to integrate into your traditional culture and blows up buses in an effort to murder as many people as possible is unfair.

More than half of the 500 Muslims polled also felt the security services had made up evidence to convict terror suspects. Muslims interviewed by Channel 4 claimed the CCTV images of the four men arriving at Luton station en route to London were ''faked''. Others said the men were made ''convenient scapegoats".

Completely plausible, in that Muslims are famous for getting along with others and their history is one of peaceful coexistence with any and all cultures.

(Hopefully I won't be needing to add a 'sarcasm' tag)

 

1 posted on 06/05/2007 8:54:50 AM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

And one in three dems believes Bush knew in advance about 9/11. No news here.


2 posted on 06/05/2007 8:56:23 AM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find)
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“7/7 bombs staged, say one in four Muslims” and 1 in 1 fat, lesbian talk show hosts.


4 posted on 06/05/2007 8:58:16 AM PDT by Holicheese (I love shrimp and grits.)
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To: Stoat

Are there Amish people in London? Are they causing trouble there, like they are here? /s

Who believes this crap?


5 posted on 06/05/2007 8:59:13 AM PDT by trimom
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To: Stoat

Muzzles do not wrong. Those beheadings we’ve seen? Staged by the US. Those thousands of Christians killed? Staged by the US. al-Qaeda in Iraq? US agents made up to look like Arabs are the ones killing American soldiers. IEDs? Planted by these agents. Osama and all those videos and tapes? Made in Hollywood by Joooz to make muzzles look bad.


6 posted on 06/05/2007 9:02:44 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: F15Eagle
Man, that sure took them a long time to work up this conspiracy theory. They must be getting lax ...

I suppose that they have been distracted by the local go-go dancers

MEMRI TV latest clips Iran's Enemies Want to Destroy it with Miniskirts (Iranian TV); 3 more.

7 posted on 06/05/2007 9:03:18 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

Look at the accusers.

Last year when the IDF was fighting in Lebanon, the enemy purposely had an orphanage targeted by the IAF by parking a mobile rocket launcher next to it so they could display their ‘props’ to the media afterwards. (Remember the Green Helmet Guy.)

If it’s in their playbook, they probably mistakenly assume it’s in the Western World’s playbook too.


8 posted on 06/05/2007 9:04:00 AM PDT by Sax
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To: trimom

Equal Opportunity in Action:
That means that MI5 and MI6 are hiring lots of JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!! to be undercover agents.

I suspect the Learned Elders of Zion assisted them in passing the civil Service tests.

I’m tellin’ ya’ it’s the JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSS!


9 posted on 06/05/2007 9:05:01 AM PDT by Gideon Reader (DEMOCRATS: Not quite American, and proud of it! Palestinians are,...well,... Palestinian.)
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To: trimom
Are there Amish people in London? Are they causing trouble there, like they are here? /s

Who believes this crap?

Muzzies do, and far more of them than Mr. Blair would like to believe, it seems.

10 posted on 06/05/2007 9:06:07 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

They don’t really believe it’s not jihadist war.

They’ll say whatever to the infidels in hope to further their cause through lies.


11 posted on 06/05/2007 9:07:20 AM PDT by Tolsti
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A poll for The Daily Telegraph shortly after the 9/11 attacks found a large proportion of Muslims that refused to accept they were carried out by members of their faith.

IIRC, the day of and the days after the 9/11 attacks, a large proportion of Muslims who celebrating all over the world, INCLUDING some here in the US.

12 posted on 06/05/2007 9:07:39 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Guns don't kill people. None of my guns ever left the house at night and killed anyone.)
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To: Right Wing Assault
Muzzles do not wrong. Those beheadings we’ve seen? Staged by the US. Those thousands of Christians killed? Staged by the US. al-Qaeda in Iraq? US agents made up to look like Arabs are the ones killing American soldiers. IEDs? Planted by these agents. Osama and all those videos and tapes? Made in Hollywood by Joooz to make muzzles look bad.

ABSOLUTELY!

After all it is the 'Religion of Peace!"

13 posted on 06/05/2007 9:08:18 AM PDT by Hazcat (Live to party, work to afford it.)
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To: F15Eagle

The moon landings were staged too! And those buildings which fell on September 11, 2001......those were simply large props.


15 posted on 06/05/2007 9:09:31 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Truth : Liberals :: Kryptonite : Superman)
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To: Stoat

That’s what they say, but nobody believes them. Not a word.


16 posted on 06/05/2007 9:10:54 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Treaty)
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To: Arrowhead1952
A poll for The Daily Telegraph shortly after the 9/11 attacks found a large proportion of Muslims that refused to accept they were carried out by members of their faith.

IIRC, the day of and the days after the 9/11 attacks, a large proportion of Muslims who celebrating all over the world, INCLUDING some here in the US.

Your memory does indeed serve you well, and I hope that such essential facts are never allowed to evaporate from the public consciousness.

17 posted on 06/05/2007 9:11:55 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

One fourth think that it is perfectly justified to murder maim torture bomb and kill Christians and Jews if it furthers the cause of jihadism. One fourth don’t think that their fellow savages did it.
The only answer to this problem is to expel all those who are members of the ideology of death and destruction and block the borders to them.
There is no moderate head-chopper-ism. There is no growing voice speaking out against the bombing, neck-slicing, head-chopping, murder, death and destruction. There is no way to deal with them in a civilized way.
Expulsion, deportation, block the borders.


18 posted on 06/05/2007 9:11:59 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: RightWhale
That’s what they say, but nobody believes them. Not a word.

A lot of other Muzzies do, it seems.  (and many Leftist anti-western losers as well)

19 posted on 06/05/2007 9:13:59 AM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2008: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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