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Giuliani leads, Thompson 2nd in new GOP Poll
LatestPolitics.com ^ | June 6, 2007 | Ryan Sager

Posted on 06/06/2007 8:16:14 AM PDT by John Cena

Is Fred Thompson No. 2? Well, now we have the second poll released just today that says "yes."

After the jump, we reproduce a memo just sent out by McLaughlin & Associates (now-confirmed pollsters for the Thompson campaign — though this poll was not done for the campaign). It breaks down as follows (change since the last time the poll was taken in April in parentheses):

Rudy Giuliani: 24% (-4) Fred Thompson: 18% (+5) John McCain: 17% (+1) Mitt Romney: 7% (-1)

UPDATE: A survey just released by Pew also shows Mr. Thompson second to Mr. Giuliani in how many voters say there's a "good chance" or "some chance" that they'd vote for either candidate — Messrs. Giuliani and Thompson are actually tied on the "good chance" number. More below...

(Excerpt) Read more at latestpolitics.com ...


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To: ConservativeDude

He seems to be taking the same position that he took in the 90’s. It is unfortunate that Hannity cut him off and he couldn’t finish his thought. His position seems to be that he opposes Roe on federalist grounds but at the state level doesn’t think abortion should be criminalized. We will need clarification on that.


21 posted on 06/06/2007 8:35:51 AM PDT by TexanSniper
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To: John Cena

Rudy will back out, again, on a potential match with Hillary. McLame is too old. Romney is non-descript. The rest are unkown. This leaves a big opening for FRED.


22 posted on 06/06/2007 8:36:46 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: TexanSniper

With Thompson apparently coming out as pro choice as per last night’s interview this race is about to get more interesting.
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You keep making that statement on various threads and have been successfully rebutted each time. Don’t you even read posts to you, or are do you just want to keep repeating a lie?


23 posted on 06/06/2007 8:36:58 AM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: John Cena
Hey John...the problem is with definitions of Pro-Choice and Pro-Life.

1.Some consider Pro-Life to mean "Abortion is murder" and it should be outlawed and all involved should be prosecuted for murder. (Anti-Abortion)

2.Some consider Pro-Life to mean being against Roe Vs Wade, and letting the issue be decided by the States. (Federalist)

3.Some consider Pro-Choice to be someone who approves of abortion on demand. (Pro-Abortion)

4.Some consider Pro-Choice to mean being against Roe Vs Wade, and letting the issue be decided by the States. (Federalist)

Oops, 2 and 4 are the same, and there's the rub.

Fred's record can be considered Pro-Life and Pro-Choice. I believe, from my reading of his record, that he is merely Pro-Federalism, which just happens to cover definition #2 and #4. I don't believe he is "anti-abortion".

Thanks for your always cogent posts.
24 posted on 06/06/2007 8:38:56 AM PDT by jonathanmo (No tag available at this time.)
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To: John Cena
Fred’s pro-choice? I didn’t know that. If this is the case, I may have to rethink my primairy vote.

I would suggest you investigate the matter yourself and make up your mind rather than take the statement of someone who MAY have an axe to grind or a candidate to promote's word for it.

Unless you are one of those that think the Constitution is only valid when it protects those things with which you personally agree, then by all means go right ahead and call him pro choice.

25 posted on 06/06/2007 8:39:12 AM PDT by jdub
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To: HerrBlucher
various threads and have been successfully rebutted each time. Don’t you even read posts to you, or are do you just want to keep repeating a lie?

He reads them all right. There have been a slew recently planting inuendo and disinformation.

26 posted on 06/06/2007 8:40:16 AM PDT by Mensius
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To: John Cena

I see Rudy Giuliani and Fred Thompson as the top two going all the way to the Convention. When Fred gets into the debate cycle, he will have to think quick on his feet. There will be no script and he will need to show the electorate that he is as adept to the changing situation as Rudy has demonstrated so far.

The lightning bolts were the telling indicator.


27 posted on 06/06/2007 8:41:03 AM PDT by jonrick46
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To: 1Old Pro

and their “unknowns” too. GO Fred... Rudy’s trend numbers have been down and down (with the exception of a small bump after the Ron Paul thing) and Fred has been up and up even without playing the pre-primary waste your money game the other candidates have been engaged in.


28 posted on 06/06/2007 8:44:40 AM PDT by APRPEH (Hillary probably wouldn't approve, but I can live with that.... www.imwithfred.com)
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To: John Cena
The McGlaughlin survey is polistats bunk:

McLaughlin & Associates conducted a national survey of 1,000 likely general election voters between May 28th and June 1st, 2007. Within this sample, 350 voters were Republicans. All interviews were conducted via telephone by professional interviewers. Respondents were randomly selected within predetermined election units structured to correlate with actual voter turnout in a national election. The survey of 1,000 likely general election voters has an accuracy of + 3.1% at a 95% confidence interval. For the subsample of 350 Republicans, the accuracy is +5.2% at a 95% confidence interval.

The opinion of likely PRIMARY voters (not general election voters) will give anything resembling a pseudo-prediction right now.....if at all. AND "national" surveys for a state-by-state election...just more polistat lies to make a nice headline and try to get some respectability in the polling world.

...and the PEW survey is even more atrocious:

Results for this survey are based on telephone interviews conducted under the direction of Princeton Survey Research Associates International among a nationwide sample of 1,503 adults, 18 years of age or older, from May 30-June 3, 2007

A nationwide survey of "adults" and who they would vote for is and will always be irrelevant pertaining to presidential elections.

29 posted on 06/06/2007 8:45:00 AM PDT by ElectricStrawberry (27th Infantry Regiment....cut in half during the Clinton years......WOLFHOUNDS!!!!)
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To: TexanSniper
With Thompson apparently coming out as pro choice as per last night’s interview


30 posted on 06/06/2007 8:50:06 AM PDT by The Blitherer (These are not dark days; these are great days - the greatest days our country has ever lived. -WSC)
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To: John Cena
What's the old saying:

Fred - time to cr_p, and get off the pot...


31 posted on 06/06/2007 8:50:35 AM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: TexanSniper

I saw him on another talk show and the host asked him a straight up question and his straight up answer was that he was “pro life.” His words, not mine or the hosts.

Fred is pro life, and he’s no idiot.

If somehow he has muddied the water, look for some clarity real soon. He will run as a pro life, anti-Roe conservative. And he will win.


32 posted on 06/06/2007 8:51:49 AM PDT by ConservativeDude (")
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To: ConservativeDude

LOL.....MM is desperate to be relevant. A good sign for Fred that she is chasing after him.


33 posted on 06/06/2007 8:54:04 AM PDT by tioga (Fred Thompson for President.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Don't kid yourself. Rudy, Romney, and McCain are all going to be there in the primaries. The question is whether Fred will. I think he will, but so far, each candidate has shown a pretty strong "bottom," at about mid-20s. Rudy has gotten up to the high 30s, Romney to the high 20s.

Fred will pull mostly from Rudy. What happens to McClame when he can't ever get above 20%? Where do his voters go? Too early to say. But it's silly to write off Rudy.

34 posted on 06/06/2007 8:54:27 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: TexanSniper

What interview did YOU watch. Thompson is NOT pro-choice.


35 posted on 06/06/2007 8:55:52 AM PDT by tioga (Fred Thompson for President.)
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36 posted on 06/06/2007 8:59:36 AM PDT by Politicalmom (No self-respecting group bent on world domination would invite Angelina Jolie to be a member.)
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To: ConservativeDude

I believe post #24 describes the matter accurately.


37 posted on 06/06/2007 9:02:26 AM PDT by TexanSniper
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To: Politicalmom

I hope Giuliani enjoys the last few days of (supposedly) being #1.


38 posted on 06/06/2007 9:02:34 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: TexanSniper

You are a LIAR.


39 posted on 06/06/2007 9:02:41 AM PDT by Politicalmom (No self-respecting group bent on world domination would invite Angelina Jolie to be a member.)
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To: John Cena

I don’t know about this poll, but the recent USA Today poll had a margin of error of 6. If this is the case for this poll, we’re just about at a statistical tie.


40 posted on 06/06/2007 9:02:50 AM PDT by jmc813 (www.imwithfred.com - DONATE!)
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