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NASA's Griffin Regrets Remarks on Global Warming
Sci-Tech Today ^ | June 6, 2007 | Alicia Chang

Posted on 06/06/2007 2:15:51 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative

NASA administrator Michael Griffin made headlines last week when he told a National Public Radio interviewer he wasn't sure global warming was a problem. "All I can really do is apologize to all you guys ... I feel badly that I caused this amount of controversy over something like this," said Griffin.

The head of NASA told scientists and engineers that he regrets airing his personal views about global warming during a recent radio interview, according to a video of the meeting obtained by The Associated Press.

NASA administrator Michael Griffin said in the closed-door meeting Monday at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena that "unfortunately, this is an issue which has become far more political than technical and it would have been well for me to have stayed out of it."

"All I can really do is apologize to all you guys ... I feel badly that I caused this amount of controversy over something like this," he said.

Griffin made headlines last week when he told a National Public Radio interviewer he wasn't sure global warming was a problem.

"I have no doubt that ... a trend of global warming exists," Griffin said on NPR. "I am not sure that it is fair to say that it is a problem we must wrestle with."

The radio interview angered some climate scientists, who called his remarks ignorant.

An international panel this year predicted that uncontrolled greenhouse gas emissions could drive up global temperatures and trigger heat waves, devastating droughts and super storms. Observations by NASA satellites show evidence of rapidly melting glaciers and shrinking of critical marine plant life due to warmer seas.

Griffin reiterated that NASA's job was to provide scientific data on global warming and leave it up to policy makers to decide what to do with it.

Griffin told JPL workers he tried to separate his opinions during the NPR interview, but that it got "lost in the shuffle."

"Doing media interviews is an art. Their goal is usually to generate controversy because it sells interviews and papers and my goal is usually to avoid controversy," he said.


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KEYWORDS: blaspheminggore; climatechange; ecofascism; energy; globalwarming; gorepardon; griffin; religionofgore; repentence
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To: SteamShovel

I take issue with your argument, not because it's wrong, it's not, but because it let's the claim stand that CO2 causes global warming.

If CO2 really causes warming, then they have a point. But if it doesn't they need to go pound sand ....

CO2 concentrations of 200ppm, 300ppm or 400ppm doesn't matter, all absorb 100% of the Infra Red in its absorption spectrum well before that heat escapes out into space. As an analogy hold a sheet of paper up in front of a light bulb. You can see light through it can't you. Now hold up two sheets some light still gets through. Three sheets? Well at some point it doesn't matter. More sheets of paper won't hold back any more light. Same is true with CO2. Higher concentrations don't hold back anymore heat.

41 posted on 06/06/2007 5:38:18 PM PDT by StACase
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To: SteamShovel
That's not even including the cause (sun) and the real greenhouse gas (water vapor).

Water Vapor world over, about 18,000 parts per million (ppm). Carbon Dioxide, 350 ppm.

Average molecular mass of air (N2, O2): 28 amu. Molecular mass of CO2: 44 amu.

Geologic flux of atmospheric CO2 is primarily artefact. The Earth warms, Venus warms, Mars warms: proportionally more atmospheric CO2 as per Boltzman kinetics vs escape velocity.

Anthropogenic CO2 not even close to being any cause of anything.

Al Gore is just an ignorant juvenile who needs attention, pretty much the same as all professional politicians, (and Hollywood).

No argument here against cutting oil dependence, but deceit and incompetence doesn't advance that agenda one iota.

42 posted on 06/06/2007 5:45:59 PM PDT by jnsun (The LEFT: The need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer)
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To: StACase; jnsun; All

Can anyone here tell me what the average temp of the earth should be??


43 posted on 06/06/2007 7:01:07 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative; fanfan; GMMAC; xcamel; DaveLoneRanger; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; ...

All this does is give his opinion more air play. At no point does he reverse his original statement. Take a look at this guys education he is just about the most qualified person in the world to talk about climate change.

Dr. Griffin holds seven degrees, and is pursuing his eighth. In chronological order of attainment, Dr. Griffin’s degrees include:

* BS Physics (The Johns Hopkins University, 1971)
* MS Aerospace Science (The Catholic University of America, 1974)
* PhD Aerospace Engineering (University of Maryland, College Park, 1977)
* MEng Electrical Engineering (University of Southern California, 1979)
* MS Applied Physics (The Johns Hopkins University, 1983)
* MBA Master of Business Administration (Loyola College in Maryland)
* MEng Civil Engineering (The George Washington University, 1998)

Dr. Griffin was also working toward an MS in computer science at Johns Hopkins University before being appointed as NASA chief. Dr. Griffin has been a professor at various universities, teaching courses in spacecraft design, applied mathematics, guidance and navigation, compressible flow, computational fluid dynamics, spacecraft altitude control, astrodynamics, and introductory aerospace engineering. He is the lead author of more than two dozen technical papers, and is co-author with James R. French of the graduate astronautical engineering textbook, “Space Vehicle Design.” ISBN 1-56347-539-1 Dr. Griffin is also a general aviation flight instructor and pilot, and part-owner of a small airplane.


44 posted on 06/06/2007 7:03:00 PM PDT by Reform Canada (Kyoto=>More Unemployment=>More Poverty=>More Homeless=>More Crime=>More Rape & Murder)
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To: SunkenCiv; SierraWasp; B4Ranch; neverdem; PhilDragoo; NormsRevenge; Lady Jag; NRA2BFree; ...
Although the HEADLINE obviously (...purposefully?) implies something different... THIS line from the body of the article 'tells the tale':

Michael Griffin: "unfortunately, this is an issue which has become far more political than technical..."


45 posted on 06/06/2007 7:21:27 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: Seadog Bytes; potlatch; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; dixiechick2000

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Well done


46 posted on 06/06/2007 7:30:45 PM PDT by devolve ( _Illegal_Aliens_Killed_25_Americans_Today _20_More_Than_Al-Qaeda_Did_ _Smoke_Gets_in_My_Eyes_)
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To: Seadog Bytes

What a pathetically politickle pantload!!! Just disgusting!!!


47 posted on 06/06/2007 7:50:42 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: Redcloak; Seadog Bytes
"Has St. Al of Gore granted him absolution?"

No! He has to buy mucho (a little illegal alien lingo there) ox Gored indulgences, first!!!

48 posted on 06/06/2007 7:56:17 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: KC Burke
Who says that great minds think alike?

:)

49 posted on 06/06/2007 8:02:22 PM PDT by GOPJ (Import fruit, not illegal pickers.)
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To: Seadog Bytes

I’m saw-ree... Sow saw-ree that I wuz such a fool... but I luv the truth and I wuz too blind to see... Your current flight of fanciful pharcical sillyness... (we interrupt this tune to ask the audience if they been given these GovernMental EnvironMental Religious Clerics any way out pharmacuticals lately that make them hate truthful actual scientific methods)


50 posted on 06/06/2007 8:11:35 PM PDT by SierraWasp (My tagline is undergoing a vowel movement since the conservative movement is being stifled by Repubs)
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To: buffyt
“I agree. My daughter has a degree in HydroGeology from the Department of GeoSciences - University of Texas Austin...
She said that at the UT GeoScience Department
Global Warming is a big joke not worth discussing!”

The problem is that if you dis global warming in any of the Liberal Arts departments you will soon be found lying in the middle of 6th Street with a pick axe in your head.

51 posted on 06/06/2007 8:13:27 PM PDT by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

This is what happens when you make the error of committing truth.


52 posted on 06/06/2007 8:15:56 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative; RightWhale

Does anyone know how times the temperature at the north pole has been above freezing? Ill give the answer in awhile.


53 posted on 06/06/2007 8:18:48 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: TheLion

Never....since we have been measuring it.


54 posted on 06/06/2007 8:33:09 PM PDT by TheLion (How about "Comprehensive Immigration Enforcement," for a change)
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To: SierraWasp

RE: “any way out pharmacuticals”

Actually, with them, I don’t think the problem is drug-induced. ...I think it’s genetic.


55 posted on 06/06/2007 10:45:36 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: StACase; buffyt; OKSooner; honolulugal; Killing Time; Beowulf; Mr. Peabody; RW_Whacko; gruffwolf; ..
"...Well, it ain’t no joke, it’s going to cost all of us a lot of money if this whole charade isn’t stopped..."

Y'know, the 'Global-Cooling' scare-tactics of the '70s just couldn't get any traction. Probably due to the possibility of having to convert B-52s into giant 'cropdusters' to spread carbon-black on the Northern and Southern ice sheets to melt the fast-freezing water and warm the world. Everybody knew it was bull$hit, so the idea fizzled before the money-angle could be proposed.

Remember, follow the money!

The 'gases-in-the-atmosphere' crap didn't start with CO2, but IIRC, it started with CFCs like Freons. 'They' said that the Freon was going up and destroying the ozone-layer in the stratosphere - there was a hole over the South Pole, don'tcha-know. The fact that Freon molecules zoom to the ground because they're heavier than air (same as CO2) was irrelevant. They had to go! The stuff that replaced Freon is even heavier.

The money-angle on Freon apparently had something to do with getting more firms manufacturing refridgerant.

Once people could be fooled into thinking that heavier-than-air gases could float up, the stage was set for another scam, so the buzzword that was chosen was 'Greenhouse', as in greenhouse-gases. CO2 was the first boogeyman gas, and methane (cow-farts) was added later because, well, there are lots of cows. algore jumped in because, well, he's algore and he's as smart as a cow.

Now, the money part of the scam (all this 'Global-Warming' bull$hit is a con-game, y'know) is to somehow convince people that it's necessary for somebody else to spend their money to save the world, i.e. the people have to want it! The cracks in the scam were really showing last winter when people started measuring snow in feet instead of inches, and the new boogyword became 'Climate-Change', but people were getting suspicious. The new Religion had a name-change. That don't look good! Gotta do something fast!

'Carbon-Credits' was an idea tossed out at the very beginning of the CO2 scam whereby the wealthy, industrialized Countries (USA) that burn lots of fossil fuels would somehow buy credits from the poor, backward Countries (them) that only burned camelshit, and somehow, this socialist notion would make everything alright. The details were never worked out then, because the scam was just starting. The cardboard box was set up, but the walnut halves and the pea were still in the Flim-Flam-Mans' pocket.

We know that algore generates tons of CO2, and all of his houses even more, but it's OK, because he's buying 'Carbon-Credits', and that somehow offsets his obscene gluttonny when it comes to generating CO2. Whoops - algore invented the Internet - algore's buying those carbon-credits from a Company that he himself owns - bummer! Well, who else lined-up to buy carbon-credits from algores' company? Anyone? ... Hello? ...

I learned a very long time ago that a successful scam is like a good pitch in baseball. It's a lonnnnng sloooww currrrve, with a fastbreak. The first step was to invent the sky falling problem without sounding like Chicken Little, and get a few followers. Step two is to turn it into a Religion so its' authenticity is faith-based, thus going unquestioned, and convert the sheeples to your Religion. Step three is to pretend to solve the problem, and then shear the sheeple to pay for the solution, and keep the money! Step one went OK because practically nobody was listening, but some reference papers about the theory got published.

We were well along the way towards the Unanimity of the Religion of the Flim-Flam-Man when algores Internet burped out some actual science. Exposed algore too. Everything happens so fast these days, and it's mostly because of the rapid exchange of information. The moonbat, Flim-Flam Religion was a 8:5 favourite for a while there, but it's starting to look like 'Global-Climate-Warming-Change' is gonna be a fizzle. They tried to set-up the fleecing part too soon because the sky-falling problem was getting exposed.

It doesn't mean that the High Priests of the Religion (damn that a$$hole, algore) are gonna walk away - they've got a helluva lot of Capital invested in this scam, both monetary and Political. The dhimmicRATS get a lot of money from the Hollyweird moonbats, and those vacuum-heads want something for their dough. Fortunately, most of them are wasteful sumbitches who are easily exposed by their excessive lifestyles. Unfortunately, they don't give a rats ass because they're the glitterati, and have a 'Do as I Say' mentality.

There'll be some noise through the warm days of summer, and if we get some hurricanes, they'll be blamed on G-C-W-C, but it'll all be passe' by the end of next winter. Let's do Hybrid Cars next (stupid, wasteful, dangerous idea), and then, Ethanol (INCREDIBLY stupid idea). ........................ FRegards

56 posted on 06/06/2007 10:51:50 PM PDT by gonzo (In Florida, inmates make cigarettes in jail that I buy, and I can go to jail for smoking one! WTF?)
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To: PhilDragoo

Ping ...................... FRegards


57 posted on 06/06/2007 11:28:21 PM PDT by gonzo (In Florida, inmates make cigarettes in jail that I buy, and I can go to jail for smoking one! WTF?)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative
Griffin told JPL workers he tried to separate his opinions during the NPR interview, but that it got "lost in the shuffle."

Interesting. Maybe more global-alarmists will [at least occasionally] use their noggins, instead of allowing themselves to be brain-washed.

58 posted on 06/07/2007 4:46:40 AM PDT by syriacus ("...had the US troops remained [in S. Korea in 1949], there would have been no [Korean] War")
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To: buffyt
She said that at the UT GeoScience Department Global Warming is a big joke not worth discussing!

I'm glad to hear this.

59 posted on 06/07/2007 4:48:52 AM PDT by syriacus ("...had the US troops remained [in S. Korea in 1949], there would have been no [Korean] War")
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To: 1FreeAmerican
Can anyone here tell me what the average temp of the earth should be??

Good question. We know that the global alarmists are reactionaries. But we don't know how far back they wish to go.

60 posted on 06/07/2007 4:52:54 AM PDT by syriacus ("...had the US troops remained [in S. Korea in 1949], there would have been no [Korean] War")
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