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The 'Abiotic Oil' Controversy By Richard Heinberg 10-6-4

The debate over oil's origin has been going on since the 19th century. From the start, there were those who contended that oil is primordial - that it dates back to Earth's origin - or that it is made through an inorganic process, while others argued that it was produced from the decay of living organisms (primarily oceanic plankton) that proliferated millions of years ago during relatively brief periods of global warming and were buried under ocean sediment in fortuitous circumstances.

http://www.rense.com/general58/biot.htm

1 posted on 06/09/2007 7:36:39 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

Lovely. Tax thugs at work.


2 posted on 06/09/2007 7:40:16 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Flavius

I can only imagine if that water-hydrogen car really worked!

(getting out tin foil conspiracy hat)


3 posted on 06/09/2007 7:41:20 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: Flavius

That sounds exactly like our Dhimmi controlled PRNC, they will not lose a nickel no matter what innovation it may crush.

Things are pretty bad here in the “Old North State”.


4 posted on 06/09/2007 7:42:09 PM PDT by padre35 (GWB chose Amnesty as his hill to die on, not Social Security reform.....that speaks much)
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To: Flavius

Shoulda kept his mouth shut. This guy now his bad deal (expensive conversion, overpriced fuel) is really screwed.


5 posted on 06/09/2007 7:42:18 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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To: Flavius

INFURIATING!

Unreal that you can fine an American citizens for NOT buying gasoline and still driving! the gall of these greedy politicos is dumbfounding....


8 posted on 06/09/2007 7:44:21 PM PDT by eeevil conservative (Duncan Hunter and John Bolton in '08!!!!!!!!)
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To: Flavius

leviathan-eats-itself alert.


9 posted on 06/09/2007 7:44:56 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Thank you St. Jude.)
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To: Flavius
Yep, this guy should have checked with his state and local governments first about this issue before proceeding with his otherwise excellent plan.

In Pennsylvania, if you want to build your own ethanol still and make your own alternative fuel (for a Flex Fuel vehicle such as a newer model Chevy S-10 pickup), then you're required to submit monthly returns on ethanol usage (not production), along with payments at .21 per gallon burned. The tax sucks, but it still beats 31 cents per gallon that PA charges, and if you use your Flex Fuel vehicle for work and make your own fuel, then you can file for a .53 per gallon federal tax credit at tax time (you've got to keep a mileage log though). The tax laws on this stuff are definitely obsolete and need updating, especially since the state and federal governments are trying to encourage alternative fuels usage.

10 posted on 06/09/2007 7:47:25 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Flavius

Sounds a little like when all those people bought diesel cars ‘cause diesel fuel was “half the price” of gas.

Haha, look at it now./sarcasm


13 posted on 06/09/2007 7:53:20 PM PDT by wizr (Freedom ain't free.. Common sense ain't common,. It's a gift from God.)
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To: Flavius
Come on, Jeff Rense’s site is a ‘truther’ site.

Btw, try FReeper favorite, Dr. Corsi’s book ‘Black Gold Stranglehold’, alot of info about Abiotic Oil.

20 posted on 06/09/2007 8:11:19 PM PDT by BGHater
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To: Flavius

If I’m not mistaken, North Carolina people have a long history of hating revenuers.


21 posted on 06/09/2007 8:15:43 PM PDT by Savage Beast (A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself from within.~Durant)
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To: Nailbiter

This reminds me of the looney legislator in our home state who wanted to tax higher mileage cars because they used less gas and therefore didn’t pay their ‘fair share’


27 posted on 06/09/2007 8:30:55 PM PDT by IncPen (The Liberal's Reward is Self Disgust)
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To: Flavius
Like my state who raised taxes to get us in more fuel effecient cars.

Now that we did that, the tax rev is down and they consider a tax hike to make up for the fewer gallons sold.

29 posted on 06/09/2007 8:31:07 PM PDT by llevrok (Mexico? Pffft!!! Build a wall between Alaska and Canada, Now!)
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To: Flavius; sully777; Fierce Allegiance; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; ...
Rest In Peace, old friend, your work is finished....... If you want on or off the DIESEL ”KnOcK” LIST just FReepmail me........ This is a fairly HIGH VOLUME ping list on some days......
36 posted on 06/09/2007 8:46:00 PM PDT by Red Badger (Bite your tongue. It tastes a lot better than crow................)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; ...

The *real* problem with this retrograde reactionary is, the oil was hydrogenated. /sarc


44 posted on 06/09/2007 9:31:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Time heals all wounds, particularly when they're not yours. Profile updated June 8, 2007.)
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To: Flavius

Do not, repeat, do not try and not pay taxes around Democrats. It only seems that Global Warmings is their religion. It may or may not be. But definitely taxes are their sacrament.


47 posted on 06/09/2007 9:49:46 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (What's the difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic? The Free Clinic knows how to stop leaks.)
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To: Flavius

State Makes Big Fuss Over Local Couple’s Vegetable Oil Car Fuel (Told To Pay Taxes on Fuel or Else)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1794636/posts


48 posted on 06/09/2007 9:53:43 PM PDT by endthematrix (a globalized and integrated world - which is coming, one way or the other. - Hillary)
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To: Flavius

So if my state promises to use gas tax income for roads, then uses it for other purposes, can I sue and get my money back?


49 posted on 06/09/2007 9:54:15 PM PDT by Boiling point (The Indians had a bad immigration policy and look what happened to them!)
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To: Flavius
The debate over oil's origin has been going on since the 19th century. From the start, there were those who contended that oil is primordial - that it dates back to Earth's origin - or that it is made through an inorganic process, while others argued that it was produced from the decay of living organisms (primarily oceanic plankton) that proliferated millions of years ago during relatively brief periods of global warming and were buried under ocean sediment in fortuitous circumstances.

The biotic origin folks got led astray early on by the laevo-rotatory nature of petroleum. However, it only slightly rotates light to the left, which is more consistent with bacterial contamination than biotic origin.
61 posted on 06/09/2007 11:53:09 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Flavius
There was a similar case in Illinois. The law has been changed since then. I look for a similar move to happen in North Carolina. No one likes this kind of bureaucratic overreach.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

68 posted on 06/10/2007 4:49:12 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Flavius

Perhaps he should have tried tobacco.


71 posted on 06/10/2007 8:48:47 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (No sprechen ze spanglish. Pray for the president, for he has clearly gone insane.)
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