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Time to stand up to Islamic fanatics now
NY Daily News ^ | June 15th 2007 | Michael Goodwin

Posted on 06/15/2007 5:54:04 AM PDT by SJackson

The booms and blasts in the Palestinian territories were the sounds of a baby democracy being murdered. Gone with it is any illusion that radical Muslims are just like us and that all they want is freedom.

Their freedom is the freedom to kill - including other Muslims. The reports of Hamas gunmen summarily executing Fatah rivals mark a low point for Palestinian self-governance and President Bush's democracy agenda.

It also proves that no good deed goes unpunished. Israel withdrew from Lebanon, and Hezbollah crossed the border to attack it. Israel withdrew from Gaza and gets a civil war next door. And we pushed the Palestinians to hold the election that Hamas won.

Only last week, Secretary of State Rice waxed optimistic about the prospects of Mideast peace. Despite the fact that Hamas leaders had refused to recognize Israel's right to exist, Rice professed in a visit to the Daily News to see progress.

"Hamas now looks like a bunch of politicians who also can't make the sewer system work," she said, calling Bush's democracy agenda "both morally right and politically necessary."

It's time we got real about Islamic fanatics. Hamas and its ilk are not interested in making the sewers work or picking up the garbage. They don't want compromises and power sharing and concessions. Those things are the coins of the realm to ordinary people and politicians.

Islamic fanatics are madmen who use terrorism as a means to establish an Islamic theocracy. Anything that stands in their way risks becoming road kill.

That we insist on pretending otherwise is the fundamental weakness in our Mideast policy. Except for Israel, democracy is an alien concept there. We gave the Iraqis their freedom and their first government has used it to steal billions of dollars and sanction sectarian slaughter. The Taliban seized power in Afghanistan and took the country back to the Dark Ages.

They all follow in the bloody footsteps of Ayatollah Khomeini, who started the modern Islamic revolution in Iran by seizing our embassy in 1979 and promptly executing secular Iranians and his Communist political partners. His latest successor is now determined to get a nuclear weapon and use it.

This is not just a problem for us, Israel or law-abiding, decent Muslims. It is the world's problem. As British Prime Minister Tony Blair said, there is an "arc of extremism" that unites Muslim fanatics around the globe. "It doesn't always need structures and command centers or even explicit communication. It knows what it thinks."

We - the civilized people of the world - must decide what we think. While we still have the choice.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: crushislam; islam; israel; muhammadsminions; muslims; trop; waronislamism
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1 posted on 06/15/2007 5:54:05 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

High Volume. Articles on Israel can also be found by clicking on the Topic or Keyword Israel. or WOT [War on Terror]

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2 posted on 06/15/2007 5:54:33 AM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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The day terror won

Hamas overruns the Gaza Strip

By MATTHEW KALMAN in Jerusalem
and CORKY SIEMASZKO in New York
DAILY NEWS WRITERS

Friday, June 15th 2007, 4:00 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wn_report/2007/06/15/2007-06-15_the_day_terror_won.html


Israel has a radical Islamic state sitting on its doorstep.

Hamas militants seized control of the Gaza Strip yesterday and deposed the Palestinian political party that recognizes the Jewish state - and then proceeded to shoot vanquished Fatah Party fighters in the street like dogs.

“The era of justice and Islamic rule have arrived,” Islam Shahawan, a spokesman for Hamas’ militia, told Hamas radio.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas declared a state of emergency and dissolved his coalition government, firing the Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh. But Hamas just laughed.

“Hamas rejects the Abbas decision,” senior Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri said. “In practical terms these decisions are worthless.”

Nizar Rayan, another prominent Hamas official, called on “Abbas’ army of prostitutes to surrender or else they will be executed in public.”

By nightfall, green Hamas flags were flying from the rooftops of the presidential compound and other Palestinian Authority bastions while Hamas fighters boasted they had “executed” Samih al-Madhoun, a close ally of Abbas’ top security aide.

Other Fatah fighters loyal to Abbas were marched half-naked from the hated Preventive Security Service complex in Gaza City. Witnesses reported that some were later executed gangland-style by masked Hamas militiamen. “This is a real coup against the Palestinian Authority,” said Nabil Amr, a top Abbas aide.

Unable and unwilling to intervene, the Israelis watched with growing despair as Hamas - bankrolled by Iran and bent on destroying the Jewish state - took over a territory they had just turned over to the Palestinian Authority in 2005.

“Hamas has to stop terrorizing the Palestinian people,” White House spokesman Tony Snow said.

Secretary of State Rice telephoned Abbas in the West Bank but could do little more than voice her support for the beleaguered Palestinian leader.

Meanwhile, there was mayhem in Gaza City as Hamas murdered Fatah men - sometimes while the victims’ wives and children looked on, witnesses said.

“They are executing them one by one,” a witness who gave his name as Amjad told The Associated Press. “They are carrying one of them on their shoulders, putting him on a sand dune, turning him around and shooting.”

Abbas, who had been banking on his far more numerous Fatah fighters to hold off Hamas, ordered his elite presidential guard to strike back. But the order came too late.

His forces were already routed by the better-armed and better-disciplined Hamas fighters. The death toll was at least 80 and expected to climb.

Fatah and Hamas have battled sporadically since Hamas shocked the world last year by winning the parliamentary elections. The latest


3 posted on 06/15/2007 5:55:53 AM PDT by SJackson (isolationism never was, never will be acceptable response to[expansionist] tyrannical governments)
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To: SJackson

Built walls around the palestinan enclaves and shut off sewage, water, electricty, traffic and money. Let them rot there and whenver they target Israel, lob bombs on them.


4 posted on 06/15/2007 5:57:39 AM PDT by SolidWood (Gaza delenda est.)
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To: SJackson
The booms and blasts in the Palestinian territories were the sounds of a baby democracy being murdered.
Actually, Hamas won the election, and were just enforcing that electoral victory with some particularly vicious executive actions.

I'm not sure you can say that democracy was murdered in this case, though certainly a lot of human beings were murdered.

Look, if you have a nation of Adolf Hitlers, and an Adolf Hitler gets elected president, do you say the democracy failed?

In this case, we are forced to conclude that, for the Palestinians --- a nation of thugs, murderers and mass-murderers --- democracy simply looks and feels like totalitarianism.

5 posted on 06/15/2007 6:05:07 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: SJackson

>> Only last week, Secretary of State Rice waxed optimistic about the prospects of Mideast peace.

Thus further cementing her position as an incompetent. But what else is new... Gates, Rice, Chertoff, Gonzalez, none of them are worth a tinker’s damn. Judging by his leadership picks and pans, W prefers to be surrounded by losers.


6 posted on 06/15/2007 6:36:58 AM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: SolidWood
Really BIG bombs

Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket And keep lobbing until the nutso muzzies -- like the Japanese at the end of WWII (and Hiroshima and Nagasaki) -- sue for peace,

I hope the Israeli's have the guts required to finally bring these idiots to the peace table -- or exterminate them.

7 posted on 06/15/2007 6:48:50 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Nervous Tick
Only last week, Secretary of State Rice waxed optimistic about the prospects of Mideast peace.

Thus further cementing her position as an incompetent. But what else is new... Gates, Rice, Chertoff, Gonzalez, none of them are worth a tinker’s damn. Judging by his leadership picks and pans, W prefers to be surrounded by losers.

Hmmm.... one thing we don't hear much of these days, are those Freepers who used to be here chanting "Condi for president", "Condi v. Hillary", etc.

Wonder where they've gone?

Some time ago, I posted a first on Free Republic, saying that Condoleeza Rice was the equivalent of Colin Powell in a skirt. Still true.

- John

8 posted on 06/15/2007 6:55:37 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: SJackson

The only things Hamas CAN make work are AK-47’s, RPG’s and suicide bombs.


9 posted on 06/15/2007 7:00:35 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (My Freedom of speech trumps your feelings!)
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To: Fishrrman
Condoleeza Rice was the equivalent of Colin Powell in a skirt. Still true.

Absolutely true. The entire State Department is full of these clowns. John Bolton is a shining exception. Bush should have made Bolton SecState in 2005, and send Condi to the UN.

10 posted on 06/15/2007 7:04:24 AM PDT by SolidWood (Gaza delenda est.)
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To: SolidWood
Bush should have made Bolton SecState in 2005, and sen[t] Condi to the UN.

Perhaps so, but the 'Rats in the Senate might have filibustered Bolton's nomination and denied him confirmation.

11 posted on 06/15/2007 9:08:40 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: SJackson

War this summer? Nothing would suprise me less.


12 posted on 06/15/2007 9:09:52 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: SJackson
Would someone tell Michael Goodwin (of the Zuckerman (Clinton)-controlled NY Daily News) that there's not a dime's worth of differnce between Hamas and Fatah!
13 posted on 06/15/2007 9:13:23 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: rfreedom4u

They live off Western technology.

It will be interesting to see just how the Palestinians react to this.


14 posted on 06/15/2007 9:15:09 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Fishrrman
Condoleeza Rice was the equivalent of Colin Powell in a skirt.

Precisely.

15 posted on 06/15/2007 9:16:15 AM PDT by sauropod ("An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools." Ernest Hemingway)
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To: justiceseeker93

As far as Israel goes I agree, they both want to kill Jews.
Hamas are the ones behind the bombing of internet cafe’s...etc. They are hardcore Islamists, whereas Fatah is not.


16 posted on 06/15/2007 9:18:43 AM PDT by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Dick Bachert

It will come to that I believe. Muzzies have been getting way with barbarism for 1300 years but this time it’s all or nothing.

from wihtin their insanity their satanic death wish clearly glitters.


17 posted on 06/15/2007 9:18:48 AM PDT by eleni121 ((+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: Nervous Tick

I have a rather unconventional question; is there such a group on our side, that believes so strongly in this country and it’s God-inspired history/legacy that they would deliberately put themselves in harm’s way, strap bombs on themselves, infiltrate a known terrorist gathering place do what needed to be done? Sort of like an American kamikaze(?). Just curious. Thank you for for your time.


18 posted on 06/15/2007 11:14:18 AM PDT by antiislamofascist
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To: antiislamofascist

>> is there such a group on our side, that believes so strongly in this country and it’s God-inspired history/legacy that they would deliberately put themselves in harm’s way

Darn good question.

Hypothetically speaking... if I had some sort of terminal disease or was just feelin’ too damn old... and there were an immediate need (say, an Islamofascist takeover)... I could probably be talked into something like that. Kinda weird to think about. But I’d only do it against terrorists themselves; I would NEVER EVER even CONSIDER taking innocent lives the way the terrorist scum routinely do.


19 posted on 06/15/2007 12:02:21 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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To: antiislamofascist

You know what else is kinda weird? That you signed up today just to post that question...


20 posted on 06/15/2007 12:05:32 PM PDT by Nervous Tick
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