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Dem poll finds tepid support for immigration bill (47% for, 47% against)
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | June 20, 2007 | Carolyn Lochhead, Chronicle Washington Bureau

Posted on 06/20/2007 7:34:29 AM PDT by BornInASmallTown

(06-20) 04:00 PDT Washington -- A new Democratic poll released Tuesday could spell trouble for the big Senate immigration bill scheduled for another key procedural vote later this week. With even Democratic voters feeling lukewarm about the compromise legislation, conservatives ratcheted up their attacks on Tuesday, and supporters countered with rallies and prayer breakfasts in what both sides believe will be the last attempt to change the nation's immigration laws until after a new president is elected.

A Democracy Corps poll by Stan Greenberg and James Carville, former advisors to Democratic President Bill Clinton, showed intense voter concern about immigration in battleground congressional districts. Voters were far more likely to support proposals that would tighten the border and stop illegal immigrants from getting government benefits than efforts to legalize the estimated 12 million people living in the country illegally, the poll found.

"We do not find very much voter support for the comprehensive Senate bill," the pollsters wrote. Even Democratic voters split -- with 47 percent for and 47 percent against -- after hearing a description of the Senate bill, while most independents and Republicans opposed it.

Testing what they called "demagogic attacks" on the compromise -- labels of amnesty and proposals to make English the official national language -- the pollsters called them "not ineffective." They warned Democrats to find a way to address immigration "in ways that offset the attacks." The attacks are only increasing -- along with counter moves by immigrant rights and business groups -- as the Senate plans to resuscitate the mammoth legislation after its collapse June 7.

A demonstrator waves flags at an immigration rally in Lafayette Park across from the White House. Associated Press photo by Ron Edmonds



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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; democrats; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; liberals; noamnestyforillegals; vampirebill
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Looks like only the flag-waving members of Uncle Ted's "base" are getting behind this one...
1 posted on 06/20/2007 7:34:32 AM PDT by BornInASmallTown
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To: BornInASmallTown

If the Democracy Corps poll is that bad, wonder what an accurate poll would reflect?


2 posted on 06/20/2007 7:36:26 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ping!


3 posted on 06/20/2007 7:37:03 AM PDT by lesser_satan (FRED THOMPSON '08)
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To: BornInASmallTown

And the Republicans are 84 to 85% against it. Watch the fallout if they pass this fiasco amnesty bill.


4 posted on 06/20/2007 7:39:30 AM PDT by TommyDale (Rudy Giuliani’s candidacy is fading faster than an abortionist’s conscience.)
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To: mewzilla

“If the Democracy Corps poll is that bad, wonder what an accurate poll would reflect?”

Exactly...you’ve gotta know they’re looking to spin the best possible result.

It was also interesting that concern was expressed over “stopping illegal immigrants from getting government benefits”...when you add up the price tag of legalizing the illegals AND their families, that’s a lot of paid health care at a time when many working American men and women do not have a health care provider (I’m one of them).


5 posted on 06/20/2007 7:40:08 AM PDT by BornInASmallTown
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To: BornInASmallTown

No amnesty for incumbents AND illegals!


6 posted on 06/20/2007 7:40:37 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis ~ No Amnesty for Incumbents * WAHOO WA! ... UVA2009 * Fred Dalton Thompson 2008)
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To: BornInASmallTown

They just don’t get it do they? Wrong flag, wrong language! I do hope they keep up their protests!


7 posted on 06/20/2007 7:40:51 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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If the Democracy Corps poll is that bad, wonder what an accurate poll would reflect?
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Yeah, they should try taking such a poll somewhere other than in a Mexican barrio. It might then actually show the TRUTH about how REAL AMERICANS feel about this horrid piece of amnesty legislation. And we know what the truth really is.


8 posted on 06/20/2007 7:41:01 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: BornInASmallTown

Uncle Ted’s base are the ones that understand how importing a new victim class will perpetuate leftist/socialist Democrat power.

The rest are getting tired of pushing 1 for English.


9 posted on 06/20/2007 7:41:26 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: BornInASmallTown

Average hard-working Americans, even Dims, don’t want this bill.

Keep on the pressure! Even Dim legislators can be turned... if Barbara Boxer can oppose this bill, then it is possible.


10 posted on 06/20/2007 7:42:24 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: BornInASmallTown

It’s less than that who are for this treason. The average Dem stooge knows that they have what they want already... open borders.


11 posted on 06/20/2007 7:43:06 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: mewzilla

I think that Greenberg and Carville want to warn their pals about the seriousness of this matter, therefore they made a real effort to get it right.


12 posted on 06/20/2007 7:43:38 AM PDT by gas0linealley (.good fences make good neighbors)
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...therefore they made a real effort to get it right.

You get what you poll for. So I guess in that respect they got it right :)

13 posted on 06/20/2007 7:45:28 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: BornInASmallTown

Of course, if one is going to clip two flags to one poll, one should at least make sure the US flag is on it’s own right.

From the “How many things can you spot wrong with this picture” File...


14 posted on 06/20/2007 7:48:36 AM PDT by gridlock (Vote against Hillary so she can retire, dump Bill, and find love in the arms of a new man...)
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To: BornInASmallTown

We may end up thanking Teddy and W. This just may be what mobilizes this country to finally take it back. Maybe this is what that evil genius Karl Rove was thinking about (I doubt it).


15 posted on 06/20/2007 7:51:25 AM PDT by bilhosty
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To: BornInASmallTown
Only in liberal La-La land can a 47-47 split be called “Tepid Support”.
16 posted on 06/20/2007 7:51:44 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Planting trees to offset carbon emissions is like drinking water to offset rising ocean levels)
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To: BornInASmallTown

THAT PICTURE SAYS IT ALL ...

If you want a Mexican takeover, vote “YES” on this bill!

Stop Z-visa amnesty!! Call the Senators, tell them to vote “NO”: 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281


17 posted on 06/20/2007 7:53:19 AM PDT by WOSG (Stop Z-visa amnesty!! Call the Senators, tell them to vote "NO": 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281)
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To: gubamyster

Ping


18 posted on 06/20/2007 7:54:11 AM PDT by EdReform (The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed *NRA*JPFO*SAF *GOA*SAS)
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To: BornInASmallTown
Has anyone seen the exact wording of the poll? I suspect that it was the most surgar-coated, pro-passage interpretation they could come up with, and that could only get 47% support from the Dems. If the Republicans get a spine and fight against this it could be a huge boon for them in 2008. And if I shot gold coins out of my butt I could be a slot machine.
19 posted on 06/20/2007 7:55:31 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (A base looking for a party.)
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To: KarlInOhio

surgar->sugar


20 posted on 06/20/2007 7:56:44 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (A base looking for a party.)
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