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By your comments, I take it that you believe my loving and believing and trusting God surpassing above all else somehow impeaches my credibility altogether concerning science.

It would seem that if your scientific credibility is being criticized, it is being done because the final arbiter for you seems to be not logic or reason, but of faith and divine; two things that are unknowable and unprovable through empirical scientific means.

It is therefore justified that people wouldn't bother using reason or logic to convince you, since you've admitted that those two things aren't the primary decision makers for you.

Why bother using scientific evidence if "God did it" can be used to prove anything?

==It would seem that if your scientific credibility is being criticized, it is being done because the final arbiter for you seems to be not logic or reason, but of faith and divine; two things that are unknowable and unprovable through empirical scientific means.

Actually, if understand Kurt Godel correctly (one of the most significant logicians of all time), he showed that a combination of simple self-evident axioms demands that we acknowledge the existence of true ‘supernatural’ theorems whose truth can never be proven directly. If true, Godel has demonstrated that science can indeed study certain aspects of the supernatural. And as far as I know, Godel has not been disproven.

Thank you both so much for sharing your insights!

It is therefore justified that people wouldn't bother using reason or logic to convince you, since you've admitted that those two things aren't the primary decision makers for you.

Indeed, but I, on the other hand, use the language of math and science when speaking to issues of math and science. And as long as I am using the same language and credible sources, the fact that I am Christian is not a just cause to discredit my comments.^*

If I were using the spiritual language of Christians (I Cor 2) to address those issues - my correspondents who do not speak that language would not understand.

But if my correspondents do speak that language and are also interested in the math and science, then I speak both.

Why bother using scientific evidence if "God did it" can be used to prove anything?

As I have mentioned on post 467 either statement - "God did it" or "Nature did it" - is not an acceptable excuse to quit looking or testing theories. Investigations should continue no matter how confident the investigators are that they know what the answer will be.

^* It heaps blessings upon me to be wrongfully demeaned because I am Christian. (Matt 5) Truly, I do not mind - I thank God.

Hi GunRunner!

You seem to be suggesting that somehow logic and reason are antithetical to faith and the divine. Jeepers, if it weren't for the divinity, there would be no logic or reason. There is nothing more "logical" than the Logos.

I would urge you to think through your supposition....