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Supermarket Meat 'Could Be MRSA Infected' (UK)
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 6-25-2007 | harry wallop

Posted on 06/24/2007 6:10:19 PM PDT by blam

Supermarket meat 'could be MRSA infected'

By Harry Wallop, Consumer Affairs Correspondent
Last Updated: 12:39am BST 25/06/2007

Pork, beef and chicken in supermarkets could be infected with a strain of MRSA, according to a report today by organic campaigners which warns that the issue could become "a new monster".

The bacterium is sweeping northern Europe and has already infected one in five of all pork products on sale in Holland, from where Britain imports almost two thirds of all its pork, the report claims.

The strain found in Holland, Denmark, Belgium and Germany is different from MRSA found in British hospitals, which was a contributory factor in 3,800 deaths in 2005.

However, the report by the Soil Association, the organic pressure group, claims that the bug found in European meat is just as deadly and infectious. It is resistant to tetracycline antibiotics, the most common drugs used to cure hospital MRSA.

So far no meat or farm animals in this country have been found to be infected with the European strain. However, no testing for the microbe in pork or chicken is done.

Only cattle are tested - the least likely animal to be infected - and the Food Standards Agency (FSA) does not test any imported meat.

The Soil Association is calling on the Government to start testing for the superbug in meat as a matter of urgency.

The FSA yesterday said that it was monitoring the situation closely but added that worried consumers should follow the advice given to avoid salmonella. "Proper cooking will destroy MRSA," it said in a statement.

The worry, however, is that though the bug is killed by cooking the meat thoroughly, it is easy to become infected by handling raw meat.

Richard Young, of the Soil Association, said: "It is all very well cooking the meat well, and washing your hands before sitting down to eat your meal. All you need to do is scratch your nose while handling the meat for you to become infected."

Almost half of Dutch pig farmers carry MRSA - a prevalence 1,500 times higher than in the overall Dutch population. The Netherlands exports six million pigs a year to its neighbours.

The Soil Association claims that it is only a matter of time before MRSA is found in domestic meat, and that the heavy use of antibiotics in British farming makes infection more likely.

A spokesman for the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, said: "Antibiotics are vital to protect the health of farm livestock."

He reiterated that no cases of MRSA had been found in Britain. "Defra keeps the surveillance of MRSA under active review and surveillance is prioritised in consultation with colleagues working in the medical field, bearing in mind the most recent findings relating to humans in the UK."


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: foodsupply; health; meat; mrsa; supermarket; uk

1 posted on 06/24/2007 6:10:25 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Crappy reporting again. What does MRSA stand for? All the other initials are explained.


2 posted on 06/24/2007 6:12:51 PM PDT by RoadGumby (Ask me about Ducky)
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To: blam

MRSA?

\Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRSA


3 posted on 06/24/2007 6:13:14 PM PDT by restornu (Whatever time we have is being paid for with our life!)
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Overview of Healthcare-associated MRSA
Go to Community-Associated MRSA

Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus Aureus (MRSA) is a type of bacteria that is resistant to certain antibiotics. These antibiotics include methicillin and other more common antibiotics such as oxacillin, penicillin and amoxicillin. Staph infections, including MRSA, occur most frequently among persons in hospitals and healthcare facilities (such as nursing homes and dialysis centers) who have weakened immune systems.

MRSA infections that are acquired by persons who have not been recently (within the past year) hospitalized or had a medical procedure (such as dialysis, surgery, catheters) are known as CA-MRSA infections. Staph or MRSA infections in the community are usually manifested as skin infections, such as pimples and boils, and occur in otherwise healthy people. (see Community-associated MRSA. )
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dhqp/ar_mrsa.html


4 posted on 06/24/2007 6:14:40 PM PDT by restornu (Whatever time we have is being paid for with our life!)
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To: blam

Did this meat, by any chance, come from China?


5 posted on 06/24/2007 6:18:25 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Senators suck...the ones in Washington and on Ottawa's NHL team)
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To: blam
"The FSA yesterday said that it was monitoring the situation closely but added that worried consumers should follow the advice given to avoid salmonella. 'Proper cooking will destroy MRSA,' it said in a statement."

Yeah, right. Most people piggies will ignore that.

Parasite makes men dumb, women sexy
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1759260/posts
6 posted on 06/24/2007 6:19:28 PM PDT by familyop (Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: blam

As usual, no one is protecting the people. Of course, that would actually mean doing your job and not taking from the Yum Yum Graft Tree.


7 posted on 06/24/2007 6:20:10 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: blam

One (more) reason to become vegetarian, or eat only meat from sources you can trust. Cooking can’t kill everything, especially as these things mutate. I’ve yet to hear of a superbug in rice and beans.

I think of it as taking control.


8 posted on 06/24/2007 6:22:49 PM PDT by Scothia ( When something important is going on, silence is a lie.)
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To: RoadGumby
Here are numerous articles about MRSA posted on FR.
9 posted on 06/24/2007 6:23:55 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border then, Introduce an Illegal Immigrant Deportation Bill)
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To: Scothia
You could eat fresh road kill if it's cooked at 450F for half an hour or so... heat kills bacteria, period.

Too bad about all the human feces infected spinach, grapes, strawberries and such last year

10 posted on 06/24/2007 6:27:16 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Thompson Time!")
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To: TigersEye

ping


11 posted on 06/24/2007 6:28:09 PM PDT by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance to the will of Allah ...... dilligaf? with an efg.....)
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To: RoadGumby
"Crappy reporting again."

Heh...good one!

[Relation of sputum and feces and methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) detection]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8952266&dopt=Abstract
12 posted on 06/24/2007 6:28:52 PM PDT by familyop (Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: Scothia
"Cooking can’t kill everything, especially as these things mutate."

Thorough cooking will kill all bacteria and viruses.

You may be thinking of prions from Mad Cow Disease which cooking will not kill.

13 posted on 06/24/2007 6:30:16 PM PDT by blam (Secure the border then, Introduce an Illegal Immigrant Deportation Bill)
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To: xcamel
"You could eat fresh road kill if it's cooked at 450F for half an hour or so... heat kills bacteria, period."

That won't kill the botulinum spores.


14 posted on 06/24/2007 6:35:39 PM PDT by familyop (Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: xcamel

To be more specific, enough heat, along with sealing containers, will kill botulinum spores. But they can get on the outside of containers, utensils, and the like. They can also be inhaled and get into the bloodstream through respiratory mucus membranes.


15 posted on 06/24/2007 6:44:45 PM PDT by familyop (Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: RoadGumby

They’ve found this primarily in pork products in Holland, eh? Gee, who doesn’t eat pork?


16 posted on 06/24/2007 6:45:40 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: restornu; blam; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe
Research highlights nastier form of MRSA

Genome and virulence determinants of high virulence community-acquired MRSA

The second link has a very interesting glossary section. I keep forgetting panton-valentine leukocidin. I found the first link using PVL as a key word that I made when I posted it.

17 posted on 06/24/2007 6:47:43 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: familyop
I have a pet Bactrian camel. Bactrian camels are natural carriers of anthrax. I have had him for 11 years. Do I sound dead to you?

OBTW:

FDA Urgently Warns Consumers about Health Risks of Potentially Contaminated Olives

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is alerting consumers to possible serious health risks from eating olives that may be contaminated with a deadly bacterium, Clostridium botulinum. C. botulinum can cause botulism, a potentially fatal illness. The olives are made by Charlie Brown di Rutigliano & Figli S.r.l, of Bari, Italy and are being recalled by the manufacturer. No illnesses have been reported to date in connection with this recall.

The olives should not be eaten alone or in other foods, even if they do not appear to be spoiled. Consumers should discard these products or return them to the point of purchase. If in doubt, consumers should contact the retailer and inquire whether its olives are part of the recall.

Last I knew.. Olives ain't MEAT.

18 posted on 06/24/2007 6:51:39 PM PDT by xcamel ("It's Thompson Time!")
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To: blam

90% of the baby back ribs sold in restaurants in the US come from Denmark. I know Denmark isn’t mentioned, but it’s in the same neck of the woods. Certainly food for thought (pun intended).


19 posted on 06/24/2007 6:55:54 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: xcamel
Too bad about all the human feces infected spinach, grapes, strawberries and such last year.

Human? The spinach was infected by pigs.

20 posted on 06/24/2007 7:01:10 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Let me correct myself. I was relying on memory (not a smart move, I guess), so I researched. In 2001 50% of the BB ribs sold in the US came from Denmark. This info from an article at the time there was a temporary ban on meat products from Europe in early 2001 due to foot-and-mouth disease in other parts of the EU.


21 posted on 06/24/2007 7:01:26 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: blam

We’re all gonna dieeee!

Geez, if it ain’t one thing it’s another with the vegan anti-meat nazis.


22 posted on 06/24/2007 7:01:44 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Social vs fiscal conservatism? Sorry, I'm not voting my wallet over the broken bodies of the innocen)
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To: xcamel

Rotting meat also becomes infected with botulinum (as do many other foods)—even rotting people.


23 posted on 06/24/2007 7:21:04 PM PDT by familyop (Duncan Hunter for President!)
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To: mom4kittys; LucyT

ping


24 posted on 06/24/2007 7:23:33 PM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: G8 Diplomat

Say no to Union/China food and say yes to home delivery..

shameless plug for my employer, and if you live in Hodgenville, Greensburg or Brownsville KY, i run that area...


25 posted on 06/24/2007 7:38:54 PM PDT by Schwaeky (Just say NO to Union Food (Kroger, etc) and say yes to Home Delivery..)
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To: blam

Last I checked, the high-tech technique called “COOKING” kills MSRA, and any other kind of bacteria.


26 posted on 06/24/2007 7:55:09 PM PDT by montag813
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To: blam

Oh noes! The flesh eating bacteria commonly found in human sinuses can also be found in uncooked meat!

I guess you shouldn’t stick raw meat up your nose.

(BTW, some hospitals are now giving anti-MRSA sinus spray to people who are soon to undergo surgery.


27 posted on 06/24/2007 7:59:19 PM PDT by Popocatapetl
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To: blam
What ever happened to irradiation as a food health weapon?

Just asking.

28 posted on 06/24/2007 8:54:56 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Publius6961

You beat me to it. We are idiots for not using that tool.

I noticed the other day, that some dog treats I have, had been radiation sterilized, and it really ticked me off that they can be protected with this method, and we can’t, due to non-scientific idiocy. I think it was a bag of pigs ears, but it might have been some leather chew “bones”.


29 posted on 06/24/2007 9:00:25 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Scothia

I seem to recall spinach and lettuce being quite a problem recently.


30 posted on 06/24/2007 9:27:05 PM PDT by redangus
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To: Popocatapetl

I guess you shouldn’t stick raw meat up your nose.


Gee thanks. NOW you tell me!


31 posted on 06/24/2007 9:30:23 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: montag813

From the “For What It’s Worth” department...

In 2002 I had to have an emergency spinal fusion surgery due to an accident.

In 2005 I was in great pain, went to the Doc and had an x-ray of my back which showed a blown disc above the fusion.

The Doc opened me up to take care of the disc and discovered a massive staph infection. It was not, thankfully, MRSA.

They removed the disc, closed me up and then three days later re-opened the area and removed the fusion device and cleaned up the infection.

I had to have a pic line run from my right arm into my heart. The pic line was attached to a pump that injected very heavy duty antibiotics into my heart 24/7 for thirteen weeks.

Following that, I was on oral antibiotics for a year and a half. And this was for non-MRSA infection.

One way of testing for infection is having bloodwork done and checking the SED rate. A normal SED rate is between 1 and 10. When they checked mine upon admittance to the hospital it was 220.

I would not have known of the infection except for the pain from the blown disc. The Doc told me that had I waited another 2 weeks that the infection would have killed me.

They surmise that I got the infection from the original emergency surgery.

If you are the least bit concerned you should have your SED rate checked.

I would not wish what I went through on my worst enemy.


32 posted on 06/24/2007 9:42:44 PM PDT by Hornet19 (Secure Border + Fined Employers - Welfare = Self-deportation.)
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To: Scothia

I guess you missed that whole spinach thing last year.


33 posted on 06/25/2007 2:52:51 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (DR #1692)
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To: blam

I have never heard of a person contacting MRSA by eating something. I would think that proper cooking and the low Ph of the stomach would seriously affect its virulence. Usually it enters through open wounds or cut. The MRSA strain is around us all the time. We are constantly exposed without knowing it. For the immune compromised this is deadly, but for those with a normal immune system it is all in a days work. This sounds like alarmist crap to me.


34 posted on 06/25/2007 6:07:52 AM PDT by foolscap
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To: FreedomPoster

Read post # 12

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1852491/posts


35 posted on 06/25/2007 6:21:00 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer
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To: Arizona Carolyn; mom4kittys; blam; Salamander; Red Badger; WakeUpAndVote; dirtboy; Overtaxed; ...

36 posted on 06/26/2007 1:42:43 PM PDT by mom4kittys (If velvet could sing, it would sound like Josh Groban)
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To: blam

My guess is that the meat that was tested came from kitchens that were also preparing seafood.


37 posted on 06/26/2007 1:55:37 PM PDT by Eva (I)
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To: Eva
Purchase Allimax, it's kills MRSA dead, better have it on stock. It's a new powerful Garlic extract proven in studies to kill MRSA.
38 posted on 06/26/2007 1:58:53 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: foolscap
I have never heard of a person contacting MRSA by eating something.

Nor have I.
BUT...I think there is at least a school of thought (not proved
or disproved yet) that one reason for the infectivity of MSRA
is that it can infect without the usual break in the skin that
is the green-light for most infections.

In the worst-scenario case of MSRA-infection withOUT a wound...
this food-borne story might be worth listening to.

Myself, having almost lost a leg (and life) to MSRA, hope this
is just sensationalist reporting without relation to real-world
infectivity of MSRA.
39 posted on 06/26/2007 2:05:11 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Scythian

Does is flavor everything with garlic?


40 posted on 06/26/2007 2:46:19 PM PDT by Eva (I)
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To: Publius6961
What ever happened to irradiation as a food health weapon?

Thanks to irrational hysteria during the '60s and '70s, most Americans now have a strong phobia of all things radioactive.

Irradiated food is EEEEEEeeeeeeeevvvviiiiiillllllllll!

41 posted on 06/26/2007 2:49:31 PM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: Scythian

Ah, I see that it’s a capsule that you take like a food supplement. Where’s it made? A friend of mine’s brother took something that was made in India and it almost killed him.


42 posted on 06/26/2007 2:50:05 PM PDT by Eva (I)
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To: blam
Farmers have for years pumped up their animals with antibiotics and hormones to make them fat .

The problem is all of those antibiotics and hormones enter your system when you eat them , I believe leading to earlier puberty for girls and bugs that are resistant to the antibiotics.

The FDA has done little to protect us here in this country from this, preferring to look the other way.

Tyson has announced they are going to offer an antibiotic free line of chicken because people seem to want it.
But most Americans are too dumb to realize the risk of having chicken nuggets or that roast Sunday chicken so they will probably stick with the regular chicken raised on the crap.

The only way you can know what you are getting is to buy certified organic beef and chicken at the higher price.

However that does not totally protect your family because the way bugs become immune to the antibiotics is frequent exposure to it but not enough to kill them off. Those that remain are immune to the drugs.

That is where the strain of TB came from that that lawyer had. Someone did not finish their round of treatment and then shared air space with other people.

This is not a China problem, but it is my guess they do it too and are less cautious than our farmers

43 posted on 06/26/2007 5:22:25 PM PDT by ears_to_hear (Pray for America)
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To: N3WBI3

bump


44 posted on 06/26/2007 5:23:06 PM PDT by ears_to_hear (Pray for America)
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To: Eva
Most garlic is now grown in china, pick your poison
45 posted on 06/26/2007 5:24:15 PM PDT by ears_to_hear (Pray for America)
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To: Scothia

Ever heard of aflatoxin?


46 posted on 06/26/2007 5:24:57 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Taz Struck By Lightning Faces Battery Charge)
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To: VOA
You must be tough to have survived MSRA. My cousin picked it up in the hospital and died from it.

It was an awful way to die.

sw

47 posted on 06/26/2007 5:30:16 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (Bush Whacked!)
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