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Posted on 06/30/2007 4:36:50 PM PDT by 1066AD
Oswald 'had no time to fire all Kennedy bullets' By Tim Shipman in Washington, Sunday Telegraph Last Updated: 12:30am BST 01/07/2007
Lee Harvey Oswald could not have acted alone in assassinating President John F Kennedy, according to a new study by Italian weapons experts of the type of rifle Oswald used in the shootings.
The new findings will encourage conspiracy theorists In fresh tests of the Mannlicher-Carcano bolt-action weapon, supervised by the Italian army, it was found to be impossible for even an accomplished marksman to fire the shots quickly enough.
The findings will fuel continuing theories that Oswald was part of a larger conspiracy to murder the 35th American president on 22 November 1963.
The official Warren Commission inquiry into the shooting concluded the following year that Oswald was a lone gunman who fired three shots with a Carcano M91/38 bolt-action rifle in 8.3 seconds.
But when the Italian team test-fired the identical model of gun, they were unable to load and fire three shots in less than 19 seconds - suggesting that a second gunman must have been present in Dealey Plaza, central Dallas, that day.
Two of the bullets hit Kennedy, with the first - the so called "magic bullet", ridiculed by conspiracy theorists - also wounding the governor of Texas, John B Connally, after it had struck the president.
In a further challenge to the official conclusions, the Italian team conducted two other tests at the former Carcano factory in Terni, north of Rome, where the murder weapon was made in 1940.
They fired bullets through two large pieces of meat, in an attempt to simulate the assumed path of the magic bullet. In their test, the bullet was deformed, unlike the first bullet in the Kennedy assassination, which remained largely intact.
The second bullet is thought to have missed its target. According to the commission, the third disintegrated when it hit Kennedy's head. The new research suggests, however, that this is incompatible with the fact that Oswald was only 80 yards away, in a book depository, when he fired. The Italian tests suggest that a bullet fired from that distance would have emerged intact from Kennedy's head, implying that the third shot must instead have come from a more distant location.
The findings will encourage conspiracy theorists who hold that Oswald could not have fired three shots in time. For each shot, he would have had to push up the gun's bolt handle, pull the bolt backwards to eject the spent cartridge case and then forward to slide the next round into the chamber, before turning down the bolt handle to lock it in place.
Nearly seven out of 10 Americans believe that Kennedy was murdered as a result of a plot. Depending on which theory they back, the participants supposedly included any or all of the CIA, the Mafia, the Cubans, the FBI chief J Edgar Hoover, the military-industrial complex and Vice-President Lyndon B Johnson.
It is the second challenge in two months to the view of the Warren Commission that Oswald acted alone. In May, researchers at Texas A&M University argued that the ballistics evidence used to rule out a second gunman had been misinterpreted.
The findings will be a frustration to Vincent Bugliosi, the author of a 1,600-page book, also published in May, which claimed to put to rest all the conspiracy theories of the past 44 years.
The Italian findings will be hotly contested by those who believe that Oswald was a lone gunman - not least because they contradict firing tests previously conducted, using Oswald's actual rifle, by the FBI and the US Marines, and another study by Washington police marksmen using an identical gun.
Oswald would only have needed to reload the weapon twice in the eight seconds to get off all three shots, since the time was measured only from the moment he fired the first shot. The FBI concluded that a marksman could have fired a shot at least every 2.3 seconds.
In his book, Mr Bugliosi details how after just two or three minutes' practice with the gun in 1979, three police marksmen aiming at three targets representing Kennedy at the same distance from Oswald, got away three shots in less than eight seconds.
One marksman hit the targets twice and missed the third shot by an inch. A second shooter scored a "kill" with his second shot.
Mr Bugliosi recounts three separate ballistics tests that found that the magic bullet could have wounded Kennedy and Connally and emerged in similar condition to the real bullet. But that is unlikely to stop the Italian research fuelling another generation of conspiracy writers.
hahaha I was waiting for that pic ..THANX...YAWNNNNNNNNNNN here we go again .
Maybe it’s a good idea to chamber the first round well before you need so you only need to cycle the bolt twice. Duh!
Maybe they handed the rifle off to one another...
He WILL return from his island hideout where he has sojourned with Martin Luther King and Elvis.
The real story here is: "Italian 'rifle experts' unable to load and fire three rounds in nineteen seconds."
100% Bull
I will have check and it is being repeated later, I recorded some Discovry HD shows then.
I will check back for a review.
Don’t forget the moon worshipping cult blowing up things in the UK.
In the one that I saw, one of the marksmen even made the comment that it wasn't really very difficult.
I see that you've already stepped away from your keyboard.
Aw Geez.
I posted too fast with no proofreading.
Yes, it is being repeated later.
Bam! one two three.. Bam! one two three... Bam! Yeah, about 8.3 seconds.
Someone needs to explain to these clowns that the first round is already loaded and doesn’t really count on the “clock.” I also just gotta say that anyone who has made a dime selling a book or profiting from this sordid business in our nations history can go to hell. And I would have never voted for a Kennedy, more than likely. The End.
You had to go and spoil it, now, didn’t you? It is more fun to see stupid reporters/studies twisting in the wind. :)
Now let's go over the real facts... Oswald was an expert marksman at 200 yards, the distance to Kennedy was 80 yards. He had a perfectly sighted in weapon. He had plenty of time to fire 3 rounds (8 seconds). There were 3 shots fired, two hits. There were 3 shell casings found at his sniper nest. Every thing else is tin foil hat stuff.
Oswald was desperate to be famous and important (ask his brother), he achieved his goal.
Thanks. Saw it a few minutes ago.
I’m with ladyinred and Mr. K.
People can argue every point as if they can’t see the forest for the trees. The trees being LBJ, and he was more than ruthless enough to ‘get r done.’
errata: “Go to hell” refers to those making money of conspiracy theories. Apologies proffered.
But was he shooting at a moving car?
ping.
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