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The events striking Jesse Ramirez are now covered in recent days and relate to what happened to Terri Schiavo.
1 posted on 07/01/2007 3:27:41 AM PDT by 8mmMauser
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2 posted on 07/01/2007 3:28:54 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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We just had something like this happen in our area. A young lady suffering from diabetes and in need of dialysis was being taken care of at home by her elderly parents...well the process of taking care of her was getting to be too much for the old couple so they decided to not feed or give her water and they stopped dialysis as well. This young lady (early 40’s) has a son and was not wanting to die. Someone in the caregivers loop turned them into the state...but unfortunately she passed away the day after they finally showed up. It made me sick...my husband wanted me to go to the funeral...but I have no sympathy for anyone who could just stand by and watch their own daughter starve and dehydrate to death.


7 posted on 07/01/2007 3:50:02 AM PDT by leenie312
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Good info! bttt!


9 posted on 07/01/2007 4:02:13 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (THOMPSON NEEDS TO CLARIFY HIS POSITION ON THE SPP BEFORE I SUPPORT HIM.)
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Why in the world does the medical establishment let an adulterous spouse make the decision whether the other spouse lives or dies? Talk about a conflict of interest...particularly when there is a life insurance payment in the offing.


12 posted on 07/01/2007 4:27:59 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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God rest Terri’s soul, and prayers for Jesse’s full recovery.

If these people believe in God, I say prove it.

Life should be our most cherished of values.


14 posted on 07/01/2007 5:24:44 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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GOD will judge harshly those that were on satan’s side in this... and there is nothing any activist of either party can do about it. Their price will be paid in a burning furnace of hell!

LLS

15 posted on 07/01/2007 5:26:21 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Support America, Kill terrorists, Destroy dims!)
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Jesse was fortunate not to be starved and dehydrated to death. Arizona starves and dehydrates a higher percentage of their brain damaged residents than the national average. Almost twice as high. More than three times as high as Florida.

In 1999, 10.4% of the “severely” cognitively impaired residents of the United States were starved and dehydrated to death.

In 2000, 11.0% of the “severely” cognitively impaired residents of the United States were starved and dehydrated to death.

In 2001, 11.4% of the “severely” cognitively impaired residents of the United States were starved and dehydrated to death.

I haven't found data yet for other years, but I think it's a fair guess that the killings continue to climb.

This doesn't represent a percentage of patients who died (which would be bad enough). It doesn't mean that 11.4% of the patients who died were starved and dehydrated. It means 11.4% of all the people living in the U.S.A. with “severe” cognitive impairments were killed this way. And it doesn't include the ones who were killed using other methods, such as denial of antibiotics for simple infections, cessation of kidney dialysis, removal of breathing assistance, etc. There are some very barbaric methods being used.

The standard used for determining “severe” cognitive impairment for the purpose of this study is a score of 5 or less on the Mini Mental State Examination (MMSE). Patients in a coma or PVS cannot possibly score 1, much less 5. You've probably seen people in the grocery store with a score of 5 or less. So these killings include a wide range of brain damaged people. I wonder how many thousands of people are living with a score of 5 or less. And for every 1,000 people living with a score of 5 or less in the year 2001, 114 of them were starved and dehydrated to death that year.

All I have before me are the percentages. I'd like to see the corresponding numbers. Or would I?

Following is the breakdown by state for 2001. Notice that Rhode Island tops the list, with just over a third of that population exterminated this way. That might have something to do with the fact that RI has appointed the pro-euthanasia group Choice in Dying the official State agency in charge of informing the public about “end-of-life choices.” They supply forms for “living wills” and “assist” the public in filling out those forms. This is what happens when you put the fox in charge of the henhouse.

Believe it or not, Florida and Texas are both below the national average. Every state is on the list. Georgia is at the bottom of the list, exterminating only 1.30% this way. But like I said, this doesn't include people who were exterminated using other methods.

RI - 33.80%
OR - 32.50%
MI - 28.30%
MT - 28.00%
WI - 27.20%
CA - 23.40%
UT - 23.40%
AZ - 20.90%
PA - 17.40%
MN - 17.20%
AK - 17.10%
CT - 15.40%
WY - 14.90%
MD - 14.60%
NM - 14.20%
SD - 14.10%
WA - 13.20%
OH - 12.90%
ID - 12.30%
IA - 12.10%
MO - 11.90%
National Average - 11.4%
VT - 11.20%
HI - 11.10%
DE - 10.80%
ND - 10.80%
MA - 9.90%
IN - 9.70%
ME - 9.20%
NH - 8.70%
NY - 8.50%
NE - 7.70%
CO - 7.20%
AL - 7.10%
TX - 7.10%
IL - 6.70%
WV - 6.70%
KY - 6.60%
SC - 6.50%
TN - 6.30%
FL - 6.20%
NV - 6.20%
AR - 5.70%
NC - 5.20%
KS - 4.80%
NJ - 4.80%
OK - 4.10%
LA - 3.70%
VA - 3.60%
DC - 3.10%
MS - 3.00%
GA - 1.30%

Facts On Dying ~ This study was funded by The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, who adamantly opposes the rights of vulnerable people to continue living. So if any trolls show up, complaining that the data is skewed in favor of life, check the facts and get back to me.

19 posted on 07/01/2007 10:34:04 AM PDT by BykrBayb (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub ~ Ž)
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Great new Terri Daily thread!

I wonder when the visitors will find it. There have been a few around while you were gone reposting Mikey’s talking points.


20 posted on 07/01/2007 10:56:29 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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What’s the Rush? Her husband wanted to get married to his fiance and did not have time to wait for her to die so he helped her out. He is scum but unfortunately she is not coming back to life.


23 posted on 07/01/2007 12:05:53 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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BUMP


28 posted on 07/01/2007 4:33:13 PM PDT by Dante3
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Euthanasia Blues


29 posted on 07/01/2007 7:48:43 PM PDT by BykrBayb (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub ~ Ž)
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That’s the difference between Jesse’s family and Terri’s hino. As in everything, follow the money.


36 posted on 07/02/2007 7:49:14 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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The rush is that people don’t want to pay the bills, maybe, or be inconvenienced. Noble reasons [/sarc]


88 posted on 07/06/2007 3:45:36 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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132 posted on 07/07/2007 10:12:42 AM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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Schindler is the brother of Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged Florida woman who died in 2005 after a decades-long court battle.

Schindler is the brother of Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged Florida woman who was killed in 2005 after a decades-long court battle.
175 posted on 07/10/2007 4:19:12 AM PDT by aruanan
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I call your attention to this quite astonishing story about a normal man (more or less) with a teensy brain. Tiny brain no obstacle to French civil servant

OK, no jokes, please :-)

Above, four shots of the Frenchman's almost empty head. Below is a CT of Terri Schiavo. See how much better her brain is!


349 posted on 07/19/2007 9:22:01 PM PDT by T'wit (Visitors: you come here expecting a turkey shoot, and then you find out that you are the turkey.)
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“. . . a brain-damaged Florida woman who died in 2005 after a decades-long court battle”

She didn’t just die; she was killed by withholding food and water which is illegal to do to animals.

I think the Schindler family should get the Nobel Peace Prize for their tireless efforts to protect the lives of disabled individuals.


428 posted on 07/24/2007 5:32:41 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!)
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BTTT!


648 posted on 08/04/2007 9:06:09 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Comatose Mesa man walks out of hospital
Wife had pulled his feeding tube after a week
 

653 posted on 11/28/2007 10:02:57 PM PST by Coleus (Pro Deo et Patria)
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