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Let's see, who's the xenophobe, here? (Fr Filled his mailbox)
HERALD NEWS ^ | Sunday, July 8, 2007 | ROGER HERNANDEZ

Posted on 07/09/2007 9:49:31 AM PDT by #1CTYankee

Been getting a ton of mail about my column of last week. My main point: "All the posturing about illegal immigrants is really an attack aimed at everybody whose name ends in 'ez.'"

Snip....

What really caught my attention was his link to a forum at FreeRepublic.com where my column was being, umm, discussed.

One posting had the same bandito featured on Ralph's Mexifornia license (turns out it's the actor Alfonso Bedoya in "The Treasure of Sierra Madre") and said: "Borders? Borders? We don' need no steenking borders. We don't need no steekin' Roger Hernandez neither!"

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Did anyone think Mr. Hernandez would change his views in this matter?

At least we gave him some mail to sift through, I'm guessing he doesn't get this much attention very often.

1 posted on 07/09/2007 9:49:33 AM PDT by #1CTYankee
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To: #1CTYankee

I have no problems with Mexicans, I just think illegal immigration ought to be illegal, no matter where anyone comes from.


2 posted on 07/09/2007 9:51:24 AM PDT by Clam Digger
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To: #1CTYankee

Notice how “illegals” are “immigrants” not law breakers. I have no problem with anybody who comes here legally, from anywhere south of the border.........


3 posted on 07/09/2007 9:53:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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To: #1CTYankee

What part of “illegal” does Mr. Hernandez not understand? What other country on the entire planet does not require a passport? In what other country in the world could another countries citizens stream unchecked across their border?


4 posted on 07/09/2007 9:54:47 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: #1CTYankee

it’s an insult to everybody whose last name ends in “ez” to think that they are incapable of doing things legally and aboveboard. as if they are incapable of following the same rules that everyone else must.


5 posted on 07/09/2007 9:55:13 AM PDT by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
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To: #1CTYankee
" Is "Curtis" aware that by accusing me of attacking "Americans," he is saying I am some sort of foreigner, not a true American? "

The article is full of non-sequiturs like the above. It's difficult to engage in reasoned debate with someone for whom logic and reason are foreign concepts.

Oops... there I go, usin' that word "foreign". Maybe I am a xenophobe after all! < /sarc>
6 posted on 07/09/2007 9:56:32 AM PDT by LIConFem (Thompson 2008. Lifetime ACU Rating: 86 -- Hunter 2008 (VP) Lifetime ACU Rating: 92)
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To: #1CTYankee
Mr. Hernandez, I do not care about the letters your last name ends with.

I care about people comeing here through proper LEGAL channels.

Illegal is Illegal they broke the law. It's time to send the law breakers packing or to jail.

7 posted on 07/09/2007 9:57:50 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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To: LIConFem
It's difficult to engage in reasoned debate with someone for whom logic and reason are foreign concepts.

roger hernandez is correct, roger hernandez has no logic or reason. It would be foolishness to debate this fool.

8 posted on 07/09/2007 10:00:31 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: #1CTYankee

Unfortunately he is unable to tell the difference between enabling criminal invasion and those folks who just have a bit of fun here, with the movie images, etc.

But then, that sort of understanding wouldn’t fit in with crying “victim!” while perpetrating mass tax-evasion and enabling law-breaking employers.

Most folks here, seemingly, are OK and welcome LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

But that point is moot because the law-breaker must cry “victim!” to garner sympathy while he ignores and breaks several federal and state laws.

And, at the same time, slaps a hopeful *legal* immigrant in the face. A person who is trying to follow the rules and do it legally.


9 posted on 07/09/2007 10:02:39 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: camle
*sigh* It's not their fault they can't learn English.

Here is Silicon Valley there is no shortage of Mexicans/Central Americans who will be happy to teach you a word or two of Spanish, I've managed to pick up enough so that I could struggle through being dropped anywhere south of Tijuana.

OTOH, a Vietnamese simply will not teach you a word of Vietnamese. They insist on learning English (or Spanish) and speaking it as best they can whenever dealing with non-Vietnamese.

10 posted on 07/09/2007 10:02:47 AM PDT by null and void (We can oil drill through miles of rock under sea water, drilling thru inches of glass is a snap...)
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To: #1CTYankee
I think Roger needs to differentiate between “Illegal Immigrants” and “Legal Immigrants”. It also looks like Roger is playing the Gerardo “Jerry Rivers” Rivera Latino victim card....Hey Roger, not all Illegals are Latinos, get over yourself.


11 posted on 07/09/2007 10:03:32 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: #1CTYankee

It’s an attack against criminal invaders regardless of where they come from, the fact that the vast majority of illegals are mexicans isn’t our fault.

It just proves what a lousy neighbor mexico is.


12 posted on 07/09/2007 10:03:59 AM PDT by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: Obadiah
"What part of “illegal” does Mr. Hernandez not understand?"

Did not, does not, will not.

13 posted on 07/09/2007 10:09:24 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: #1CTYankee

I don’t want an illegal invasion of 20 million Mexicans, 20 million Canadians, 20 million Russians, 20 million Albanians, 20 million Vietnamese, 20 million Irish, 20 million English, 20 million Spaniards, 20 million Chinese, 20 million Dutch, 20 million French (especially the French), 20 million Germans, 20 million Austrians, 20 million Japanese, 20 million Koreans, 20 million Brazilians, 20 million Italians, 20 million Pakistanis, 20 million South Africans, 20 million New Zealanders, 20 million Australians, 20 million Ethiopians, 20 million Peruvians, etc.

CAVEAT: I would consider taking 20 million Koreans if we could get rid of 20 million liberals.


14 posted on 07/09/2007 10:10:46 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Anonymous Rex

Breaching America: Todd Bensman’s findings

Todd Bensman is the San Antonio Express-News reporter who conducted his own investigation into American border security over the course of a four-part series for the paper. Published this past May, the four installments of the series are accessible here, here, here, and here.

Bensman discovered the existence of a pipeline of illegals from “Countries of Special Interest” — mostly in the Middle East, almost all Muslim — that runs through Latin American into the United States. It is a remarkable series. Yet apart from our friend Hugh Hewitt, who immediately highlighted the series on his site and invited Bensman on his show to discuss it, the silence has been deafening. Why? You can answer that question as well as I can.

Tomorrow Bensman will be the keynote speaker presenting his findings at a conference of some 120 Assistant United States Attorneys whose jurisdiction covers the Texas/Mexico border. Bensman has kindly summarized his findings for us:

— More than 5,700 illegal migrants from 43 Islamic countries, including State Sponsors of Terror, have been caught while traveling over the Canadian and Mexican borders along well-established underground smuggling routes since 9-11, a traffic that continues daily. People caught coming from these countries in the Middle East, South Asia and North Africa are labeled by our federal law enforcement agencies as “Special Interest Aliens.”

— I have estimated that between 20,000 and 60,000 have gotten through without getting caught since 9/11. Most are probably economic or politically persecuted migrants but all of those who evaded border patrol also did not undergo terror watch list screening and are walking around the country anonymous. This evasion constitutes the primary national security vulnerability of our unguarded borders.

— These migrants, though relatively small in total numbers, are high risk because they hail from countries where American troops are actively battling Islamic insurgents such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, and the Philippines. They come from nations where radical Islamic organizations have bombed U.S. interests or murdered
Americans, such as Kenya, Tanzania, and Lebanon. And they come from State Sponsors of Terrorism such as Syria, Iran and Sudan. And lastly, they come from Saudi Arabia.

— Unguarded U.S. borders are most certainly in terrorist playbooks as a means of entering the country. Since the late 1990s, at least a dozen confirmed terrorists have sneaked over U.S. borders, including operatives from Hezbollah, Hamas, the Tamil Tigers and one Al Qaida terrorist once No. 27 on the FBI’s Most Wanted Terrorist list.

— The general flow of routes across the world almost always head toward South America and Central America first because it puts them within easy striking distance of the Mexican border. Corrupt customs and government officials, as well as Arab settler populations in those countries help keep this this traffic moving northward, providing safe haven, jobs and smuggling connections.

— Latin American consulates based in the Middle East are selling tourist visas outright for bribes or simply issuing them to local travelers in places like Damascus, Beirut and Amman Jordan without regard to U.S. security interests.

— Large numbers eventually pass through Guatemala, which issues visas regularly from its foreign consulate offices in places like Jordan and Egypt, making illegal border crossings through Texas possible.

— Since 9/11, Mexico has fielded a surprisingly robust effort to interdict Special Interest Migrants. Mexican intelligence officers interrogate and often deport special interest aliens in partnership with American FBI and CIA agents. Often, the Mexicans allow American agents inside their detention facilities. But severe shortages of manpower and interpreters result in the release of many onto the streets of Mexico — without thorough threat assessements — to continue on toward the U.S. border.

— On the U.S. side of the border, the FBI is supposed to interrogate and conduct a threat assessment and interrogations on every captured special interest alien. But the process is severely flawed and open to error. Often, the FBI signs off on captured SIAs (allowing them access to the political asylum process) without conclusively knowing whether they are or are not terrorists.

— Furthermore, border patrol agents are simply using a process called “expedited removal” to kick SIAs back into Mexico, where they will certainly try to cross again, with no investigation or FBI referral whatsoever.


15 posted on 07/09/2007 10:13:23 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

I personally know people who have last names ending in “ski” and “a” who cannot get here doing it the legal way.


16 posted on 07/09/2007 10:14:36 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: #1CTYankee; All

The problem with “Mr.” Hernandez is that he thinks people whose names end in -ez deserve special treatment as compared to the people who came before said people with names ending in vowels or -ski for example. Moreover, he and his like seem to think it’s perfectly allright for line hopping ‘ez-ers while people of other races and nationalities have to wait for years and years and pay tons of money. Listen Hernandez, you’re no better than a family from India, China, or Iraq, so get to the back of the line and wait your turn. Stop exploiting your beneficial georgraphy to jump ahead of others who may have more to offer and/or a more dire situation to escapre, and stop playing the race card, America isn’t biying it, libs and cons alike. (I’ve never seen an issue where dems and repubs agree - illegal immigration is it).


17 posted on 07/09/2007 10:15:22 AM PDT by enough_idiocy (Just like against terrorism, in politics you can't be on the defensive all the time!!!!)
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To: F15Eagle
"Unfortunately he is unable to tell the difference between enabling criminal invasion and those folks who just have a bit of fun here, with the movie images, etc."

Illogical and humorless.

18 posted on 07/09/2007 10:16:36 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: enough_idiocy
I’ve never seen an issue where dems and repubs agree - illegal immigration is it

Only 85% of the population.

Almost enough to make it clear to Congress and the President...

19 posted on 07/09/2007 10:19:43 AM PDT by null and void (We can oil drill through miles of rock under sea water, drilling thru inches of glass is a snap...)
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To: Clam Digger

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4DHMxeXOgR8&mode=related&search=


20 posted on 07/09/2007 10:20:24 AM PDT by sweetiepiezer (Boycott China)
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To: #1CTYankee

I think people do it because the logical part is to not break the law. But that reasoning doesn’t seem to work when the agenda is to ignore the law and demand amnesty as a reward for breaking the law.


21 posted on 07/09/2007 10:20:28 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Tim 1:4; Gal 1:6-10; 1Cor 2:2; Matthew 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34-35; 2Thess 2:11; Jude 1:3)
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To: netmilsmom
There are plenty of people on the waiting lists from all over the world and they are doing things properly.

Why do these people think they have a right to jump the line and enter illegally?

22 posted on 07/09/2007 10:24:59 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (RIP Eric Medlen. You will be missed.)
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To: #1CTYankee

Apparently, “steenkin’ badges” are somewhat important to ensure the Rule of Law.


23 posted on 07/09/2007 10:28:03 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Thanks for posting this. I found a link, it should have it’s own thread.

Breaching America: Todd Bensman’s findings

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/018175.php


24 posted on 07/09/2007 10:29:17 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: LIConFem

He calls everybody opposed to illegal immigration a racist xenophobe but hates to be accused of attacking Americans?
Poor Boy!


25 posted on 07/09/2007 10:30:46 AM PDT by rocksblues (Just enforce the law!)
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To: null and void

If everybody agrees they can embargo the issue. Doesn’t cost them except in congressional approval ratings.


26 posted on 07/09/2007 10:31:31 AM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: doug from upland
I would consider taking 20 million Koreans if we could get rid of 20 million liberals.

Could we do that? I mean trade straight up? Would we have to sweeten the pot with certain financial incentives? Be worth it I'd say, but personally I don't think the Koreans are that dumb.

27 posted on 07/09/2007 10:33:02 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: ExTexasRedhead

You just know jorge would cover his ears and give it the “la la la la la la” treatment if he were forced to watch it.


28 posted on 07/09/2007 10:41:41 AM PDT by Anonymous Rex ( For Rent)
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To: Obadiah

ROTFLMBO!


29 posted on 07/09/2007 10:41:47 AM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: Obadiah

I don’t think we could ever get them to trade straight up, because too many lawyers would be in the batch we send. Korea and Japan are already on to us about shipping them our legal system.


30 posted on 07/09/2007 10:45:28 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Did Dennis Kucinich always look like that or did he have to submit to a series of shots? [firehat])
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To: #1CTYankee

“All the posturing about illegal immigrants is really an attack aimed at everybody whose name ends in ‘ez.’”

Oh really?

“The new group You Don’t Speak for Me! formed when Col. Al Rodriguez became fed up watching media coverage of the mass protests of April. ‘Their leaders were saying it was a march for immigrant rights and a Latino/Hispanic movement,’ says Rodriguez. ‘I thought to myself, ‘Hey, those are illegal aliens, not immigrants!’ Col. Rodriguez began speaking out to others saying, ‘I’m of Hispanic ancestry and those people are acting like they speak for me. Well, you don’t speak for me!’”

http://dontspeakforme.org/


31 posted on 07/09/2007 10:47:54 AM PDT by STE=Q ("Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock." (Will Rogers))
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To: darkwing104
"It also looks like Roger is playing the Gerardo “Jerry Rivers” Rivera Latino victim card....Hey Roger, not all Illegals are Latinos, get over yourself."

Good point.

32 posted on 07/09/2007 10:48:23 AM PDT by #1CTYankee (That's right, I have no proof. So what of it??)
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To: rocksblues

For libs, being labeled or called a name is horrifying. I don’t care what I’m called, but send the illegal invaders home, build the wall & while we’re at it, close every mosque in the country down.


33 posted on 07/09/2007 10:50:30 AM PDT by Millee (Tagline free since 10/20/06)
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To: ichabod1
I think it's been demonstrated to the Dhimmocrats how to drive a big fat wedge between the fiscal and social conservatives, and there will be no embargo of the issue because the media will be playing this thing up for months.

The illegal immigration issue could mess things up for the coalition Reagan put together, if CNN has anything to say abou tit.

34 posted on 07/09/2007 10:52:14 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Did Dennis Kucinich always look like that or did he have to submit to a series of shots? [firehat])
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To: #1CTYankee
Let's see who's the Xenophobe.

Indeed! Here you go Mr Hernandez. Hispanic's work for their race at the same time disparaging any other race. Every one of these groups is a politcal advocacy group based on race/ethnicty and this is just the tip of the iceberg

I just sometimes want to scream. There are multiple, multiple examples of the outright racism and bigotry of Hispanics in this country. Hispanics routinely work as a race/ethnicity yet many whites when accused of such will spend all there time backing up explaining how they are not racist. Meanwhile Latino's work and advocate for their race to the exclusion of you. Whites have become neutered. They have you by the nuts and will continue to do so until you stand up to the outright hypocrisy of it all. It is complete BS!

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E-mail: angelo_falcon@prldef.org
Web site: http://www.nypn.org/htm/Members/ipr/

The PRLDEF Institute for Puerto Rican Policy was created as a result of the recent merger between the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund (PRLDEF), founded in 1972, and the Institute for Puerto Rican Policy (IPR), founded in 1982. This new division of PRLDEF will conduct policy analysis and advocacy, and will collaborate with PRLDEF's Litigation Division to integrate the organization's litigation and policy work.

LABOR COUNCIL FOR LATIN AMERICAN ADVANCEMENT (est. 1973)
NATIONAL PRESIDENT: HENRY C. GONZALEZ
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: OSCAR SANCHEZ
888 16th Street, NW, Suite 640
Washington, D.C. 20006
Tel: 202-347-4223
Fax: 202-347-5095
E-mail: Natlclaa@aol.com
Web site: www.lclaa.org

LCLAA is a nonprofit, national Hispanic trade union association that strives to achieve social dignity, economic and political justice, and higher living standards for every Hispanic worker. The Council works to encourage nonpartisan voter registration, voter education, and increased participation by Hispanic workers in the political process. The Council assesses members annual dues of $12.

LATINO ISSUES FORUM (est. 1987)
PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD: LEO AVILA
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: VIOLA GONZALEZ
785 Market Street, Third Floor
San Francisco, CA 94103
Tel: 415-284-7220
Fax: 415-284-7222
E-mail: lifcentral@lif.org
Web site: http://www.lif.org/

LIF is a nonprofit organization whose purpose is to address major statewide and national issues of concern to Hispanics. Its primary focus is on broader immigration issues, education, citizenship, and integration of Hispanics into the economic, educational, and political fabric of the nation.

LEAGUE OF UNITED LATIN AMERICAN CITIZENS (est. 1929)
NATIONAL PRESIDENT: RICK DOVALINA
NATIONAL EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,
WASHINGTON, D.C.: BRENT A. WILKES
2000 L Street, NW, Suite 610
Washington, D.C. 20036
Tel: 202-833-6130
Fax: 202-833-6135
NATIONAL PRESIDENT'S OFFICE
2900 Woodridge, Suite 210
Houston, TX 77087
Tel: 713-643-4222
Fax: 713-643-4622
E-mail: LULACDC@aol.com
Web site: www.LULAC.org

LULAC is the largest and oldest Hispanic organization in the country involving and serving all Hispanic nationality groups. LULAC advances the economic condition, educational attainment, political influence, health and civil rights of Hispanics through community-based programs operating at more than 600 LULAC councils nationwide. LULAC has approximately 115,000 members throughout the United States and Puerto Rico.

LEAGUE OF UNITED LATIN AMERICAN CITIZENS (LULAC) FOUNDATION (est. 1929)
BRENT A. WILKES, NATIONAL EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
HECTOR M. FLORES, NATIONAL PRESIDENT
National Office:
2000 L Street, Suite 610
Washington, DC 20036
Tel: 202-833-6130
Web site: www.lulac.org

The LULAC Foundation supports efforts to improve the quality of life for Americans in the United States. The Foundation operates programs in health awareness and health care and assists qualified residents to become citizens of the U.S.

LOS NIяS (est. 1974)
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: ELISA SABATINI
287 G Street
Chula Vista, CA 91910
Tel: 619-426-9110
Fax: 619-426-6664
E-mail: losninos@electriciti.com

Los Ni񯳠helps children and families living in marginal communities along the U.S.-Mexico border by providing education programs that focus on family/school nutrition and family/school ecology and gardening. These programs are weekend, weeklong or summer programs.

MEXICAN AMERICAN CULTURAL CENTER (MACC) (est. 1972)
CHAIRMAN: ARCHBISHOP PATRICIO F. FLORES PRESIDENT: Sr.
MARIA ELENA GONZALEZ, R.S.M.
P.O. Box 28185
San Antonio, TX 78228-5104
Tel: 210-732-2156
Fax: 210-732-9072
E-mail: macc@maccsa.org
Web site: www.maccsa.org

The MACC is a national Catholic Institute for pastoral leadership and language studies. MACC prepares pastoral leaders to work in and with Spanish-speaking communities throughout the United States.

MEXICAN AMERICAN LEGAL DEFENSE AND EDUCATIONAL FUND
(MALDEF) (est. 1968)
PRESIDENT AND GENERAL COUNSEL: ANTONIA HERNANDEZ
REGIONAL COUNSEL: MARISA DEMEO
CHAIRMAN OF BOARD OF DIRECTORS: THOMAS B. RESTON
1717 'K' Street NW, Suite 311
Washington, D.C. 20036
Tel: 202- 293-2828
Fax: 202-293-2849
E-mail: maldefone@aol.com
Web site: http://www.maldef.org/

MALDEF is a national nonprofit organization whose principal objective is to protect and promote the civil rights of U.S. Latinos through litigation, advocacy, educational outreach, and the awarding of law scholarships.

MEXICAN AMERICAN UNITY COUNCIL (MAUC) (est. 1967)
PRESIDENT/CEO: FRANCES TERAN
2300 West Commerce Street, Suite 200
San Antonio, TX 78207
Tel: 210-978-0500
Fax: 210-978-0547

MAUC is committed to developing the human and economic potential of Hispanics by encouraging pride and participation in the economic mainstream and leveraging public and private resources.

MULTICULTURAL EDUCATION, TRAINING, AND ADVOCACY (META) (est. 1983)
CO-DIRECTOR: ROGER RICE
CO-DIRECTOR: PETER ROOS
STAFF ATTORNEY: JANE E. LOPEZ
STAFF ATTORNEY: DEBORAH ESCOBEDO
STAFF ATTORNEY: MARY HERNANDEZ
240 A Elm Street, Suite 22 Somerville, MA 02144
Tel: 617-628-2226
Fax: 617-628-0322

META is a national organization specializing in the educational rights of Hispanics and other linguistic minorities and migrant youth.

NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR CHICANA AND CHICANO STUDIES
(NACCS) (est. 1972)
DIRECTOR, NACCS
National Office: CARLOS S. MALDONADO
Chicano Education Program
Eastern Washington University
Monroe Hall 202, MS-170
Cheney, WA 99004
Tel: 509-359-2404
Fax: 509-359-2310
Web site: www.ewu.edu

The goal of this association is to build Chicano political, cultural, and educational awareness. Its members include educators and researchers affiliated with Chicano Studies programs in the United States, students, and community members.

NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF HISPANIC FEDERAL EXECUTIVES (NAHFE) (est. 1984)
PRESIDENT AND CEO: MANUEL OLIVEREZ
VICE PRESIDENT: ALMA MORALES RIOJA
SECRETARY: JUDY REYES-MAGGIO
TREASURER: CAROLYN ZAMORA
DIRECTOR FOR SCHOLARSHIPS: BILL RODRIGUEZ
P.0. Box 469
Herndon, VA 20172-0469
Tel: 703-787-0291
Fax: 703-787-4675
E-mail: nahfe@cs.com
Web site: www.nahfe.org

NAHFE's purpose is to enhance the opportunities for Hispanics to secure positions in the federal government at General Management 12, 15, Senior Executive Service, and executive level positions.

NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF LATINO ELECTED AND APPOINTED OFFICIALS (NALEO)
EDUCATIONAL FUND (est. 1981)
BOARD PRESIDENT: RAYMOND G. SANCHEZ
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: ARTURO VARGAS
5800 S. Eastern Avenue, Suite 365
Los Angeles, CA 90040
Tel: 323-720-1932
Fax: 323-720-9519
E-mail: info@naleo.org
Web site: www.naleo.org

The National Association of Latino Elected and Appointed Officials Educational Fund is a nonprofit organization established to promote the participation of Latinos in the nation's civic life. The NALEO Educational Fund implements programs that promote the integration of Latino immigrants into American society; provides assistance and training to the nation's Latino elected officials; and conducts research on issues important to the Latino population.

NATIONAL CENTER FOR FARMWORKER HEALTH, INC. (est. 1975)
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: E. ROBERTA RYDER
1770 FM 967, Buda, TX 78610
Tel: 512-312-2700
Fax: 512-312-2600
E-mail: ryder@ncfh.org
Web site: www.ncfh.org

The mission of NCFH is to improve the health status of farmworker families through the innovative application of human, technical and information resources.

NATIONAL COUNCIL OF LA RAZA (est. 1968)
PRESIDENT AND CEO: RAUL YZAGUIRRE
CHAIR OF THE BOARD: JOSE VILLARREAL
1111 19th Street, NW, Suite 1000
Washington, D.C. 20036
Tel: 202-785-1670
Fax: 202-776-1792
E-mail: info@nclr.org
Web site: www.nclr.org

The National Council of La Raza is a private, nonprofit organization established to reduce poverty and discrimination, and improve life opportunities for Hispanics. NCLR is the nation's largest constituency based Hispanic organization serving all Hispanic nationality groups in all regions of the country through a formal network of affiliates, and a broader network of more than 20,000 groups and individuals nationwide, reaching more than 3 million Latinos annually.

NATIONAL HISPANA LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE (est. 1987)
PRESIDENT: MARISA RIVERA-ALBERT
CHAIRMAN: LINDA MAZON-GUTIERREZ
1901 North Moore Street, Suite 206
Arlington, VA 22209
Tel: 703-527-6007
Fax: 703-527-6009
E-mail: NHLI@aol.com
Web site: www.nhli.org

The National Hispana Leadership Institute was founded to increase the need for Latinas in visible national positions. NHLI selects 20 Latinas each year to participate in an intensive four-week leadership development program.

NATIONAL HISPANIC INSTITUTE (NHI) (est. 1981) EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR: ERNESTO NIETO
DIRECTOR OF PROGRAMS: GLORIA DE LEON
P.O. Box 220
Maxwell, TX 78656
Tel: 512-357-6137
Fax: 512-357-2206
E-mail: nhi@nhi_net.org
Web site: www.nhi-net.org

NHI targets top Latino youths in high school and college and conducts creative leadership training to develop students' self-marketing, networking, college planning and organizational development skills.

NATIONAL IMAGE, INC. (est. 1972)
CHAIRPERSON OF THE BOARD: ALBERTO ROCHA
VICE CHAIRPERSON OF THE BOARD: OLIVIA BALANDRAN
930 W. 7th Avenue, Suite 139
Denver, CO 80204-4417
Tel: 303-534-6534
Fax: 303-534-0796
E-mail: info@mail.nationalimageinc.org
Web site: www.nationalimageinc.org

National Image, Inc. is a nonprofit organization committed to promoting equality and opportunity in the areas of employment, education, and civil rights.

NATIONAL PUERTO RICAN COALITION, INC. (est. 1977)
PRESIDENT: MANUEL MIRABAL
1700 K Street, NW, Suite 500
Washington, D.C. 20006
Tel: 202-223-3915
Fax: 202-429-2223
E-mail: nprc@nprcinc.org
Web site: www.bateylink.org

The National Puerto Rican Coalition is a nonprofit organization that works to strengthen and enhance the social, economic, and political well being of all Puerto Ricans throughout the United States and Puerto Rico. NPRC provides technical assistance and training to Puerto Rican organizations. It evaluates the potential impact of legislative and government proposals and policies affecting the Puerto Rican community.

NATIONAL PUERTO RICAN FORUM (NPRF) (est. 1957)
31 East 32nd Street, 4th floor
New York, NY 10016-5536
Tel: 212-685-2311
Fax: 212-685-2349
Web site: www.nprf.org

NPRF works to enhance the socio-economic conditions of the Latino population through programs, research, advocacy and direct services in education and economic development.

NEW AMERICAN ALLIANCE (est. 1999)
CHAIRMAN: MOCTESUMA ESPARZA
VICE CHAIR: HENRY G. CISNEROS
EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT: MARIA DEL PILAR AVILA
8201 Greensboro Drive, Suite 300
McLean, VA 22102
Tel: 703-610-9026
Fax: 703-610-9005
E-mail: pavila@naaonline.org
Web site: www.naaonline.org

An American Latino business initiative, the NEW AMERICAN ALLIANCE is an organization of American Latino business leaders united to promote the well being of the American Latino community, with a focus on education and strategic philanthropy to improve the quality of life in the United States. It is organized on the principle that American Latino business leaders have a special responsibility to lead the process of building the capital most crucial to Latino progress-human capital.

PUERTO RICAN LEGAL DEFENSE AND EDUCATION FUND (PRLDEF) (est. 1972) now known as the PRLDEF - Institute for Puerto Rican Policy)
SENIOR POLICY EXECUTIVE: ANGELO FALCӎ
POLICY NETWORKING COORDINATOR: MAYRA ESTAPA
99 Hudson Street, 14th Floor
New York, NY 10013-2815
Tel: 212-739-7516
Toll free: 1-800-328-2322
Fax: 212-431-4276
E-mail: angelo_falcon@prldef.org
Web site: http://www.nypn.org/htm/Members/ipr/

The PRLDEF Institute for Puerto Rican Policy was created as a result of the recent merger between the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund (PRLDEF), founded in 1972, and the Institute for Puerto Rican Policy (IPR), founded in 1982. This new division of PRLDEF will conduct policy analysis and advocacy, and will collaborate with PRLDEF's Litigation Division to integrate the organization's litigation and policy work.

REPUBLICAN NATIONAL HISPANIC ASSEMBLY (est. 1972)
NATIONAL CHAIRMAN: Massey Villarreal
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MARTA R. METELKO
P.O.Box 1882, Washington, DC 20013-1882
Tel: 202-544-6700
Fax: 202-544-6869
Toll-free: 1-877-544-6701
E-mail: info@rnha.org
Web site: www.rnha.org

The Republican National Hispanic Assembly is an allied organization of the Republican National Committee. The RNHA seeks to develop a strong, effective, and informed Republican Hispanic constituency, encourages able and qualified Americans to seek office at all levels of government; provides information and offers advisory services to Republican candidates, officeholders, and party organizations on issues concerning the Hispanic community of the United States.

SECRETARIAT FOR HISPANIC AFFAIRS OF THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE OF CATHOLIC BISHOPS (est. 1948)
CHAIRMAN - BISHOPS' COMMITTEE ON HISPANIC AFFAIRS: Most Reverend ARTHUR TAFOYA
DIRECTOR: RONALDO CRUZ
3211 4th Street, NE
Washington, D.C. 20017
Tel: 202-541-3150
Fax: 202-722-8717
E-mail: hispanicaffairs@nccbuscc.org
Web site: www.nccbuscc.org

The Secretariat serves the national office of the Catholic bishops of the U.S. in advocating Hispanic/Latino pastoral and public policy issues. It promotes an understanding of the Hispanic/Latino perspective in public policy discussions at the United States Catholic Conference, and serves as a bridge with the local community. Through its national Talent Bank, it promotes the placement of Hispanic/Latinos in key positions in church and society.

SOUTHWEST VOTER REGISTRATION PROJECT (SVREP) (est. 1974)
PRESIDENT: ANTONIO GONZALEZ
403 E. Commerce, Suite 220
San Antonio, TX 78205
Tel: 210-222-0224
Fax: 210-222-9011
Toll-free 800-404-VOTE

SVREP is a national organization committed to increasing the participation of Latino and other ethnic communities in the democratic process.

SOUTHWEST VOTER RESEARCH INSTITUTE (est. 1986)
PRESIDENT: ANTONIO GONZALEZ
CHIEF OF STAFF: PATRICIA GONZALES
403 E. Commerce, Suite 220
San Antonio, TX 78205
Tel: 210-222-0224
Fax: 210-222-8474

The Southwest Voter Research Institute is an international organization that conducts research used to increase the political participation of Latinos.

TOMAS RIVERA POLICY INSTITUTE (est. 1985)
PRESIDENT: DR. HARRY PACHON
VICE PRESIDENT: DR. RODOLFO DE LA GARZA
1050 N. Mills Avenue
Claremont, CA 91711
Tel: 909-621-8897
Fax: 909-621-8898
E-mail: info@TRPI.org
Web site: www.TRPI.org

The Tom᳠Rivera Policy Institute was founded as an independent, nonprofit research organization to foster sound public policies and programs relevant to the Latino community.

UNITED FARM WORKERS OF AMERICA- AFL-CIO (UFW) (est. 1962) PRESIDENT: ARTURO RODRIGUEZ
SECRETARY/TREASURER: DOLORES C. HUERTA
National Headquarters
P.O. Box 62
Keene, CA 93531
Tel: 805-822-5571
Fax: 805-822-6103
E-mail: euranday@ufwmail.com
Web site: www.ufw.org

Founded by the late C鳡r Chᶥz, the UFW is the largest organization of farm laborers in the United States. The UFW works to enhance the living conditions of farmworkers through collective bargaining agreements with agricultural producers. It established the first pension plan for farmworkers, as well as an extensive medical coverage plan.

CESAR CHAVEZ FOUNDATION
Main Office:
634 S. Spring Street, Suite 727
Los Angeles, CA 90014
Tel: 213-362-0267
Administrative Office:
P.O. Box 62
Keene, CA 93531
Tel: 661-823-6230
Fax: 661-823-6175
E-mail: cecf@ufmail.com
Web site: www.ufw.org

The CESAR E. CHAVEZ FOUNDATION is the intellectual property owner of C鳡r Chᶥz's name, voice, image, and likeness, speeches, and writings. Permission to reproduce said intellectual property for publication purposes may be obtained by contacting the C鳡r E. Chᶥz Foundation.

UNITED STATES HISPANIC LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE (USHLI) (est. 1982)
PRESIDENT AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: DR. JUAN ANDRADE
NATIONAL FIELD DIRECTOR: RUDOLPH LOPEZ
431 S. Dearborn St., Suite 1203
Chicago, IL 60605
Web site: www.ushli.com

The mission of USHLI is to fulfill the promises and principles of democracy by empowering Hispanics and other ethnic groups

35 posted on 07/09/2007 10:55:51 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: #1CTYankee
Seems folks have two choices when it comes to dealing with people like you, Mr. Hernandez. They can

A) Argue until they're blue in the face that the main reason they're upset is because these people are here ILLEGALLY and therefore are making a mockery of our system and spitting in the faces of those who worked their butts off to do it the right way and become legal citizens

or

B) Just save their breath and call you an idiot


I think I'll go with #2.
36 posted on 07/09/2007 10:58:36 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Press 1 for English, press 2 for deport)
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To: #1CTYankee
"What really caught my attention was his link to a forum at FreeRepublic.com where my column was being, umm, discussed."

At least we gave him some mail to sift through, I'm guessing he doesn't get this much attention very often.

Ah, but it'll bring the usual chorus of trolls to this site. And he seems to take issue with his work being "discussed". Perhaps he should just go to a bar and mouth off at those in his immediate vicinity if he doesn't want other citizens to respond to his writings.

37 posted on 07/09/2007 10:59:46 AM PDT by weegee (If the Fairness Doctrine is imposed on USA who will CNN news get to read the conservative rebuttal)
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To: #1CTYankee
I give Roger Hernandez an A+ in righteous victimhood.
38 posted on 07/09/2007 11:03:23 AM PDT by ruination
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To: darkwing104
Roger is playing the... Latino victim card....Hey Roger, not all Illegals are Latinos, get over yourself.

Good point.

39 posted on 07/09/2007 11:03:53 AM PDT by GOPJ (A bunch of bands taking big tax breaks isn't a "movement" - "Live Earth" ? More "rent a crowd"...)
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To: #1CTYankee

>>And as to the rest of the message, are the president of the United States and the 46 senators who supported the bill that went down to defeat last week “eager” or merely “willing” to “destroy the USA.”<<

I would say that Kennedy is “eager.” Others are merely “willing.” Bush has acted pretty “eager.”


40 posted on 07/09/2007 11:07:25 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


41 posted on 07/09/2007 11:07:34 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: ichabod1
If everybody agrees they can embargo the issue. Doesn’t cost them except in congressional approval ratings.

But for some reason this monster just won't stay dead.

42 posted on 07/09/2007 11:08:34 AM PDT by null and void (We can oil drill through miles of rock under sea water, drilling thru inches of glass is a snap...)
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To: #1CTYankee; indylindy; TommyDale
One posting had the same bandito featured on Ralph's Mexifornia license (turns out it's the actor Alfonso Bedoya in "The Treasure of Sierra Madre") and said: "Borders? Borders? We don' need no steenking borders. We don't need no steekin' Roger Hernandez neither!"

Hey, IndyLindy! I think that was you! LOL. You're almost famous! ;-)

43 posted on 07/09/2007 11:09:07 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: #1CTYankee

Whats the outcome?

We still don’t need no steekin’ Roger Hernandez.

Get a life Roger, not everyone is gonna luv ya!


44 posted on 07/09/2007 11:16:30 AM PDT by dforest (Pissed off, ticked off, put off, J***ed off, Chert off, you know what I mean!)
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To: #1CTYankee

My main point: “All the posturing about illegal immigrants is really an attack aimed at everybody whose name ends in ‘ez.’”

Roger that, hernandez. You would be the only dissembler/enabler here worth discussing.


45 posted on 07/09/2007 11:18:36 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: calcowgirl; TommyDale

This guy just is humorless, he’s lucky we are still laughing while hordes of border breeching illegals are sucking the life out of the US citizens, many citizens who have been welcomed here and respect our laws.

Poor Wogey, he needs to stiffen his upper lip. LOL


46 posted on 07/09/2007 11:25:34 AM PDT by dforest (Pissed off, ticked off, put off, J***ed off, Chert off, you know what I mean!)
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To: calcowgirl

Damn, it didn’t even last 15 minutes!

LOL!


47 posted on 07/09/2007 11:30:50 AM PDT by dforest (Pissed off, ticked off, put off, J***ed off, Chert off, you know what I mean!)
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To: Obadiah

INDEED, the MAIN source of this problem and its particular character has SOLELY to do with our elected reps and our Agencies, which have ALLOWED things to happen here that NO OTHER COUNTRY ON EARTH WOULD ALLOW TO HAPPEN. So that results in lots of Hernandezes, like this guy, and “Juan” former “advisor” to Vicente Fox, who comes on Fox news and talks to O’Reilly and Hannity, spinning like nobody’s business, all smiles all the time, and ready with an “argument” that is all BS, all one sided, and ASSUMES from the outset (correctly) that the USA OWES the WORLD to WHOMEVER chooses to invade it. THAT IS THEIR ASSUMPTION AND NOBODY IS STRONG OR PRINCIPLED ENOUGH TO CHALLENGE IT.


48 posted on 07/09/2007 11:32:07 AM PDT by supremedoctrine (The only thing sourdough bread is good for is a grilled cheese sandwich.For that, it's essential.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

The rats have a problem there because as much as they’d love to appear hawkish on the illegals to steal republican votes, they can’t go too far or they alienate (no pun intended) their sheehan-moonbats.


49 posted on 07/09/2007 11:33:48 AM PDT by ichabod1 ("Liberals read Karl Marx. Conservatives UNDERSTAND Karl Marx." Ronald Reagan)
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To: ichabod1

That’s the beauty of this as a wedge issue: The Dims don’t have to do anything in the way of taking a side on illegal immigration...they can sit back and let the media do their dirty work, pitching the Pubbies at each other, and then claim to be faithful to whoever’s in the same room with them. SOP for the Dims.


50 posted on 07/09/2007 11:40:26 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Did Dennis Kucinich always look like that or did he have to submit to a series of shots? [firehat])
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