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To: RDTF

I’m in favor of a wall all along the entire border, but why start it here, where there’s local opposition? Why not start it in Arizona, where the ranchers are crying out from relief from armed-gangs migrating north over their land?


2 posted on 07/19/2007 12:49:53 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman
re: I’m in favor of a wall all along the entire border, but why start it here, where there’s local opposition?)))

First of all, we can't be sure that the opposition is "real" or just "vocal"--as in carefully spun. We know that Bush doesn't want to build this thing.

Maybe they want a lot of noise, or are even engineering a lot of noise, to try to kill the project.

Bush and Mexico are like Bill and Monica.

5 posted on 07/19/2007 12:53:42 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Down with Mel Martinez)
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To: samtheman
I’m in favor of a wall all along the entire border, but why start it here, where there’s local opposition? Why not start it in Arizona, where the ranchers are crying out from relief from armed-gangs migrating north over their land?

Because Bush and the open-borders crowd really DOESN'T want to build it. It's like Chertoff said after the Senate bill died about enforcing the immigration laws, that we'll now start to see stories about families pulled apart, etc., resulting from a new emphasis on enforcement.

They hope that publicity from local opposition to the fence and sob stories in the press about "undocumented Americans" being sent back to Mexico will turn public opinion around and then they can get their amnesty bill passed, do some token work on a "virtual fence" and get back to building a superhighway for Mexican trucks into the heartland.

12 posted on 07/19/2007 12:56:58 PM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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These guys can never get a break. Give credit where credit is due.


19 posted on 07/19/2007 1:00:22 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
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There’s not quite the amount of local opposition that this article claims. That’s just the usual media BS.

Many Texans, like Bush and myself, do approve of some sort of plan for legalizing the illegal aliens already here but we want border control first and foremost. Despite the blusterings, I doubt there’s many people here on FR who, if faced between living in a Mexican dump or illegally going to America, would stay in Mexico. Talk about a country that needs a regime change.

Any plan for legalization would have to include requirements for integrating into American culture. My wife is Mexican by ancestry even though the most recent immigrant in her ancestry was one grandfather who came across the border when he was 2 months old. Yet my wife didn’t speak a word of English until she started public school. Her parents did her a real disservice. That’s very typical of the culture though — they want to maintain their own enclaves and not assimilate into American society. Hard work is admired but education is mostly ignored.


26 posted on 07/19/2007 1:03:46 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: samtheman
“I’m in favor of a wall all along the entire border, but why start it here, where there’s local opposition? Why not start it in Arizona, where the ranchers are crying out from relief from armed-gangs migrating north over their land?”

I expect that you know why.

27 posted on 07/19/2007 1:04:44 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: samtheman

Prediction: They won’t build a single mile.


28 posted on 07/19/2007 1:04:46 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: samtheman
but why start it here, where there’s local opposition?

Because there's local opposition. Chertoff intends to see that it's never built.

29 posted on 07/19/2007 1:05:23 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: samtheman

Who gives a CR*P about what the liberal hispanics in South Texas think? The REST of Texas wants the wall built.


33 posted on 07/19/2007 1:09:40 PM PDT by TexConfederate1861
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To: samtheman

Why not? When I was living in CA; every Mexican told me they were from McAllen Tx. LOL


34 posted on 07/19/2007 1:10:06 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: samtheman
I’m in favor of a wall all along the entire border, but why start it here, where there’s local opposition? Why not start it in Arizona, where the ranchers are crying out from relief from armed-gangs migrating north over their land?

Because the WH wants the issue of people opposing the construction of the fence thereby stalling overall construction. It plays well in the media for the open border types.

43 posted on 07/19/2007 1:14:00 PM PDT by kabar
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To: samtheman
I’m in favor of a wall all along the entire border, but why start it here, where there’s local opposition? Why not start it in Arizona, where the ranchers are crying out from relief from armed-gangs migrating north over their land?

Why not both places at the same time? Local opposition won't diminish by next year or the year after.

77 posted on 07/19/2007 1:47:56 PM PDT by stevem
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To: samtheman
I’m in favor of a wall all along the entire border, but why start it here, where there’s local opposition?

Someone had the tag line for a long time, commenting on everything without reading anything, was that you?

87 posted on 07/19/2007 1:55:30 PM PDT by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: samtheman
I’m in favor of a wall all along the entire border, but why start it here, where there’s local opposition? Why not start it in Arizona, where the ranchers are crying out from relief from armed-gangs migrating north over their land?

spite.

They don't want to build a fence so they are going to be petulant children about it.

remember McCain's "Alrigtht! Alright! I'll build their G*damn fence! "

90 posted on 07/19/2007 1:57:29 PM PDT by AIM-54
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“Why not start it in Arizona, where the ranchers are crying out from relief from armed-gangs migrating north over their land?”

Because:

1) Chertoff is a DAM LIAR, AND WILL FIND ANOTHER EXCUSE WHY HE COULDN’T BEGIN BUILDING IN TEXAS.

2) Chertoff has NO INTENTION of EVER builing a wall in Arizona.


94 posted on 07/19/2007 2:00:44 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: samtheman
Why not start it in Arizona, where the ranchers are crying out from relief from armed-gangs migrating north over their land?

Oh, it's deliberate. This is a tactic to try to defeat it. Expect heavy media coverage daily, endless crying, wailing and gnashing of teeth, families on both sides of the border separated by an Evil Fence that no one wants, etc.

I don't think you realize how much Bush hates ordinary American citizens who want a border. He's a true globalist and absolutely ruthless. And despite his interminable lectures to us about the sacred rule of law, he isn't much interested in obeying the law that dictates the construction of the entire fence in Duncan's bill.

I begin to think Bush will destroy our party entirely rather than just obey the law and build our fence and close the border. He's done an awfully good job of wrecking us for '08 already.

Apres moi, le deluge.
95 posted on 07/19/2007 2:02:03 PM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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Chertoff: Work to Begin on Border Wall

“We’re just waiting for enough Lego bricks to start working.”


106 posted on 07/19/2007 2:22:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: samtheman

“I’m in favor of a wall all along the entire border, but why start it here, where there’s local opposition? Why not start it in Arizona, where the ranchers are crying out from relief from armed-gangs migrating north over their land?”

Are these the same ranchers who are crying over having their land taken by the government to build the wall that will protect them from the armed gangs?


141 posted on 07/19/2007 6:59:21 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Not all Liberals are Communists, but all Communists are Liberals.)
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