Posted on 07/22/2007 10:42:55 PM PDT by AJFavish
Tonight's "Hannity's America" discussed a small part of the Vincent Foster death involving some of the unanswered questions regarding what happened to various documents after his death.
Regarding the "Hannity's America" segment scheduled for next weekend on the Vincent Foster death, which supposedly will examine the details of the death itself, a good presentation by Hannity would begin as follows:
Several federal agencies including the Federal Bureau of Investigation, United States Park Police and two Independent Counsels, Robert Fiske and then Kenneth Starr, all using FBI agents in their respective investigations, concluded that on July 20, 1993, Vincent Foster committed suicide in Virginia's Fort Marcy Park. From 1997 to 2004 a federal Freedom of Information Act lawsuit forced the government to defend the credibility of those investigations and reports. The lawsuit presented the federal courts with documentary evidence that came overwhelmingly from the Government’s own files, including from the FBI and the Park Police. The documents, most of which were made public in early 1995, were ignored by the traditional media but analyzed by private citizens who shared their analysis over the Internet.
In 2000, by a 2-1 vote, a panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit stated in that FOIA lawsuit that the plaintiff "in fact, tenders evidence and argument which, if believed, would justify his doubts” about those investigations.
However, in 2004, disagreeing with the Ninth Circuit, the Supreme Court stated that the plaintiff "has not produced any evidence that would warrant a belief by a reasonable person that the alleged Government impropriety [negligent or otherwise improper conduct] might have occurred" regarding the Foster investigations and reports.
Neither the Ninth Circuit nor the Supreme Court provided any analysis of the evidence to support their respective positions.
Which court was correct?
The evidence presented to both courts by the plaintiff, uncontradicted by the federal government under both the Clinton and Bush Administrations, established the following:
Fiske failed to tell the public and Starr failed to tell the public and the three-judge panel about an FBI memo to the Director of the FBI, written two days after the death, stating that the shot was fired into Foster’s mouth without leaving an exit wound, thereby directly contradicting Starr, Fiske and the official autopsy report which all concluded that there was an exit wound in the back of the head.
Fiske failed to tell the public and Starr failed to tell the public and the three-judge panel that the medical report by Dr. Donald Haut, the only doctor to examine Foster at the park, reported a neck wound that officially did not exist. Moreover, certified copies of his report are not the same and appear to have been improperly altered by obliteration of a word rather than drawing a line through the word so it can still be read, as is standard practice for medical records.
Starr failed to tell the public and the three-judge panel that the Park Police and the only medical doctor at the death scene, Dr. Haut, reported that they did not see any blood spatter on the vegetation that would have appeared behind Foster’s head immediately after he allegedly shot himself while sitting up on the ground.
Starr failed to tell the public and the three-judge panel that the first person officially to see Foster’s deceased body and who testified that he did not see any gun in Foster’s hand, also testified that the “gun in hand” photo that was leaked to the media in 1994 did not depict what he saw.
The official death gun appears black. Foster’s widow Lisa failed to identify the official death gun from a photograph nine days after the death, in part, because the gun was not silver, the color of a gun the Fosters owned. According to the FBI, Lisa was shown the official death gun in May 1994 and the FBI stated that she “believes that the gun found at Fort Marcy Park may be the silver gun which she brought up with her” from Arkansas. Despite the obvious invalidity of an identification of a black gun as being silver, and without stating the gun colors and other relevant background facts, Fiske reported that Lisa “stated that the gun looked similar to one that” Foster owned.
Starr failed to tell the public and the three-judge panel why Fiske did this. Starr failed to tell the public and the three-judge panel that one of Lisa’s reasons for not identifying the gun in the photo shown to her nine days after the death was because it was not silver. Also absent from Starr’s report is that the FBI expressly stated that Lisa believed the gun shown to her in May 1994 was silver as it was being shown to her.
Starr failed to tell the public and the three-judge panel why Fiske’s deputy, Roderick Lankler and Lisa’s attorney, James Hamilton (who represented her in my case) and at least two FBI agents, apparently failed to note at the May 1994 interview that in their presence, Lisa described a black gun as being silver.
Starr failed to tell the public and the three-judge panel why Lisa reportedly identified a black gun as silver, as it was being shown to her, in May 1994.
Fiske failed to tell the public and Starr failed to tell the public and the three-judge panel that Foster’s nephew, who was the surviving family member most familiar with the family’s guns, could not identify the black official death gun, largely because of its color.
Fiske failed to tell the public and Starr failed to tell the public and the three-judge panel that then United States Park Police Chief Robert Langston made a false statement to the public when he stated at a press conference in August 1993 that the Foster family had identified the official death gun as one of Foster’s guns.
Starr falsely implied that the Park Police observed the entire autopsy but Fiske failed to tell the public and Starr failed to tell the public and the three-judge panel that before the Park Police arrived, Foster’s tongue and soft palate were removed by the autopsy doctor who violated policy by beginning the autopsy before arrival of the police. (The tongue and soft palate were significant because there is controversy over whether there was an entrance wound in Foster’s neck that would have resulted in a bullet path through the tongue and soft palate.)
Starr failed to tell the public and the three-judge panel that three of the four witnesses who according to the Government, saw Foster’s car in the parking lot between 4:30 p.m. and just before 6:00 p.m., after he was dead, reported seeing a car that was brown and did not report seeing a car that was the color of Foster’s car, gray. Although Starr accurately reported that the fourth of these witnesses reported seeing a brown car, Starr concluded that Foster’s gray car was in the parking lot without explaining why all four of these witnesses reported seeing the same color car, brown, and did not report seeing a gray car.
Starr relied on Dr. Henry Lee’s conclusion that Foster’s clothes revealed no evidence that Foster’s body had been dragged, without telling the public and the three-judge panel that this conclusion was worthless because the Park Police stated that they dragged Foster’s body when it began to slide down the hill during an examination.
Starr implied that the reason for the lack of readable x-rays of Foster is that the x-ray machine was not functioning properly. However, Starr failed to tell the public and the three-judge panel that the records show that the first service call for the x-ray machine was made more than three months after Foster’s death. Also, if the machine was not functioning properly on July 20, 1993, Starr failed to explain why another machine was not used to take x-rays of Foster, a very high Government official, or why there are no records showing a service call for the machine at that time.
To date, nobody in the media has asked any of the relevant former Clinton Administration officials or Bush Administration officials or Hillary Clinton to specifically address either the Ninth Circuit's conclusion or the Supreme Court's conclusion regarding the uncontradicted evidence that was presented in the FOIA lawsuit.
bump!
Where is the jogger in the park who was a witness that seemed to have evaported into thin air?
Does anyone know how Mrs. Foster is getting along these days.
My heart goes out to her.
If she is in the know of the truth I pray she will choose to leave that information with many.
If it was a murder there has to be folks who know the truth and may fear for their families safety.
Rehashing old talking heads at this time is IMO just a way to bring back the things that plagued the Clintons because Hillary is running for Prez.
I am all for exposing truths of that adminastration but if hard facts are not presented it could back fire and look like smearing propaganda.
Seems lewdness and drug use are no big no no’s in politics to some but murder for power or any reason should be investigated and brought up for prosecution.
Eyeglasses 13 feet up the slope from the body?
Nothing to see here, move along, little lambs...
What a tidal wave of information we have against the Clintons. I’ve bookmarked every MiaT. thread since I signed up because I always knew it was going to come down to this, that people who stood by and watched her abandon her job as First Lady, people who elected a carpetbagger to the U.S. Senate, people who watch her and listen to her and STILL DO NOT SEE THE TRUTH are going to have to been shaken awake. People are going to have to have it laid out for them, year by year.
I am a housewife and a mother. A grandmother, too, which means that I am most interested in the future of America. Here is my HRClinton moment:
Only two days after 9/11, I saw this evil b!tch on the Today show. She told Perky that her only child, Chelsea, had nearly died in the collapse of the WTC. “If Chelsea hadn’t sought refuge in that Starbucks..” (how fortuitous, since Starbucks charged the victims for water) because Chelsea and her SIX Secret Service agents were jogging right in that area. I saw this interview. I’ve never gotten over it. A TOTAL LIE.
A few short months later, Chelsea wrote a piece in a women’s magazine stating that she and her SIX (can you imagine the waste!) Secret Service agents were at a friend’s Park Ave penthouse watching the whole thing on TV.
Just like most of us. It will disappear, just like HRClinton’s thesis, but some of us don’t forget. Especially good old-fashioned housewives who, by definition, remember every last salacious detail when it comes to a scandal.
This is one Clinton Scandal. Vince Foster is another.
I’d bet you could reach many more average women by showing and telling this lie than you could about anything else.
Most people are decent folks. Lying about something like this to suck out sympathy in a time when so many were suffering for real, when so many people had vaporized in those towers, HRClinton is beneath contempt for that alone.
I’m never going to forget it. And I tell EVERYONE I meet about it. It only takes 2 seconds...”Hey, HRC lied to Katie on the Today show about her kid almost being killed. Her kid was nowhere near the WTC. She even wrote a magazine article about it. Chelsea was in some Penthouse, watching the whole thing on TV. CAN YOU BELIEVE SHE LIED ABOUT THAT? Politics is one thing, but c’mon...this woman lied about her daughter almost being killed.
NO GOOD WOMAN IS GOING TO ACCEPT THAT BS.
And the mysterious serial numbers on Forsters gun which was assembled from various gun parts.
You're forgetting the most important thing: EVERY STORY IS ABOUT HRC.
The world revolves around her.
What I remember about Chelsea's stupid article is how she thought about "Humpty Dumpty" and American money and power or somesuch second-hand socialist twaddle.
For pete's sake, America, give these horrible people the heave-ho!
For pete’s sake, America, give these horrible people the heave-ho!<<<<<<<<<<<
I can only pray that if this woman does get the nomination, it will do more than any other event to wake up and mobilize conservatives. Might be too late, by then, though.
more egregious outrage...than oj!!!!!
how dare the fjb media dredge up truth about the piaps???
“I can only pray that if this woman does get the nomination”
Pray often and hard...I have to agree with Rush in that there is an 80% chance that this foul witch will be elected.
It is incredible that the American electorate has been dumbed down to the moron level.
Notice my tag line.
Hardly any blood at the apparent site of the suicide. This is impossible for a headshot.
No bullet found. A search with metal detectors discovered over a dozen bullets, some going back to the civil war, but the bullet that killed Vince was not found.
Blood flow shows that Vince Foster moved his head four times after death.
Fibres on body shows that Vince Foster apparently rolled himself up in a carpet on the day he committed suicide.
Vince walked through Marcy Park without getting a speck of dust or dirt on his shoes.
Gun found in hand (extraordinarily unlikely for a suicide - guns are normally flung several feet away)
Gun found in right hand of a left-handed man. When Foster’s widow was asked if her Husband was left-handed she famously replied “No Comment”.
Gun residue shows that Vince held the revolver cylinder in his hands when the gun was fired.
Vince chose to shoot himself with an untraceable WWII revolver, leaving a perfectly good gun at home.
Partick Knowlton.
Vince Foster was right handed.
many of us here on FreeRepublic Excoriate Mrs. and Mr. Clinton as murderers, liars, thieves, enablers of sexual aggression etc.
If elected do those of us who do question these grifters think they are safe?
Will Mrs. Clinton sick the f.b.i. or other alphebet agencies on those of us who know they are dirty?
re: Patrick Knowlton
Remember all of this? The Clinton Thugs -
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/FOSTER_COVERUP/KNOWLTON/report.html
You are absolutely correct. The hard facts must be presented and as clearly as possible.
Regards,
Allan J. Favish
http://www.allanfavish.com
This woman has some serious mental issues when she will lie right out in public, knowing that the truth can come out at any time. She appears to be sociopathic.
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