Posted on 07/29/2007 5:40:02 PM PDT by ECM
Crime-fighting beats privacy in public places: Americans, by nearly a 3-to-1 margin, support the increased use of surveillance cameras — a measure decried by some civil libertarians, but credited in London with helping to catch a variety of perpetrators since the early 1990s.
Given the chief arguments, pro and con — a way to help solve crimes vs. too much of a government intrusion on privacy — it isn't close: 71 percent of Americans favor the increased use of surveillance cameras, while 25 percent oppose it.
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What is scary is that so many people dont see it as a problem...
Yea, and computerization/robotics/AI haven't progressed at all in the last 330/20/10/5 years. Or if they have, we've hit the upper limit. And all those supercomputers the government buys are only used for playing Solitaire.
Sure.
Dream on my friend. Dream on.
I guess what ever you have to tell yourself to justify the incremental raising of the heat on the pot of water...
Ribbit, ribbit...
Except that once you have the infrastructure in place, it only becomes a matter of degrees as to what constitutes a crime.
A degree here, and a degree there, and then you end up talking bout a rolling boil.
At least the cop on the corner is IN the environment and understands the context of it.
Ribbit... Ribbit...
Yes, we are gradually losing our rights one small piece at a time. The RIAA statutes, not to mention the RICO statutes, are just another right gone.
I remember a time in the not so distant past, when if I bought something it was mine.
I remember a time when the cops did have to have reasonable cause. Now all it takes is a wino whispering in a cops ear and the cops can toss flash bangs and raid anyones house they feel like.
Is it just me, or does it seem that we don't have any rights left at all? Am I guilty of a hate crime now?
While the information you list is considered public information, the presence of my face on a public street is a whole 'nuther level of public. I have had the peculiar pleasure of seeing my face on national TV because I wore it in public at an event; that the cameras were owned by WOOD-TV instead of the GRPD actually made my countenance more widely visible.
There is no difference between these cameras and having a cop standing on the streetcorner seeing you with his own eyes.
The very nature of the word “public” kind of blows your statement...
It’s called sarcasm. Some folks don’t get it so:
SARCASM
There, feel all better now?
You guys really are worried about nothing. They’ve already got cameras in virtually every store and public building. Give me an example where someone ended up in jail unjustly because of it. I’m a lawyer, and the government has had my fingerprints on file for 24 years. So far, the guys with the balls and chains have not shown up at my house to take me away.
Remember last year when the terrorists struck in Britain, they had them in custody within hours. If that had happened in the US, we still would have no clue who did it.
and yet the NSA spying issue was unconstitutional and too intrusive. makes no sense.
I’m glad they caught the guy.
Your children and grandchildren will pay a tremendous price for the system that caught him.
My relatives paid for it with their lives back in the USSR.
apples and oranges.
“Government employees live this every day they work for the government. They learn how to deal with it and so can you.”
As do the citizens of North Korea.
Uh, ok.
The WOT is trumped by business cronies who want cheap labor. And that sums up the border situation.
If surveillance cameras are so good for fighting crime, then I suppose England would have about the lowest crime rate in the developed world, since they have so many of the damned things. Errrr, no?
People are idiots.
Well actually there is. For one thing a cop can't simply write down your license plate number and send you a ticket. The camera operators can.
The cop doesn't permanently record your action, the camera can. The cop can't follow you around watching everything you do, the cameras can. The cop can't see into your house, the camera can. The camera can even see through walls. In fact the edited camera's recording can even be a better liar than the cop.
The point you seem to be missing is that even though you may be innocent, if you let someone get too much information about you, they own you. That is why you don't freely give out your SS number and your bank account numbers. Those numbers certainly aren't private, and you didn't do anything wrong with them, so why not let anyone who wants to know them see them? What do you have to hide?
May you enjoy licking your Masters boot.
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