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Veto bait, the House doesn't have close to a two thirds vote. Good Lord, how did get so many RINOs? The neoCOMs are just pushing the issue for 2008, IMHO.
1 posted on 08/03/2007 12:25:57 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
It's simple--we sat back while the liberals brought up a generation of kids to expect government to GIVE them stuff.

No one here at FR would give up their Social Security check, I'll wager. Even we've gotten comfortable with the government regulating our money and our lives for us.

I am very, very pessimistic about not only the 2008 election (I've written off the Repubs already), but--

I'll just avoid all the silly posts about "bringing us down" and "quitting," which is what one gets from the those wearing rose-tinted glasses around here. You get the gist.

2 posted on 08/03/2007 12:32:08 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 (PRO-FRED (Use all caps--it bugs the Fred-haters ;))
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To: neverdem
Republicans are afraid of being depicted as against "the children." Bunch of gutless wonders. Its fear that drove them to support SCHIP. We've come a long way towards HillaryCare, Part I.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 08/03/2007 12:32:31 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem

The President will not veto this as it is a piece of the immigration bill being “spoon fed” to us.


5 posted on 08/03/2007 12:55:37 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (An American Patriot and an anti-Islam kind of fellow. (POI))
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To: neverdem
“Covering these children is worth every cent,” said Senator Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah, who helped create the program 10 years ago."

With Ted Kennedy! How many cents is $35 BILLION?

6 posted on 08/03/2007 12:59:35 AM PDT by endthematrix (He was shouting 'Allah!' but I didn't hear that. It just sounded like a lot of crap to me.)
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To: neverdem

Yes, probably veto bait..but from an implementation side...a fraud. Where are the docs and the Rns? No new med schools, fixed production of docs, J-1 visa docs very limited. Several hundred thousand nurses short over the next 20 years. One fourth of physicians in general are over 55years of age. HHS did study in NY in 1999. In 2000 it cut all specialty physician residency slots nationwide by 25%. In some surgical subspecialties, reimburstments from the govt programs are an 80% discount from normal fees...docs running from them now, retirements are accelerated. Importation of foreign docs has slowed..rest of world resisting loss of their docs..lots of foreign docs in this country cannot get state licenses....go to a restaurant without a waiter or waitress...no food, same with medical care...either party is essentially offering at great cost a vending medical healthcare system with long lines..WIsconsin recently adopted the Dim version of the Rep version of (Romneys) in Mass...in WIs the cost of the plan is $3 bil more than the entire tax base collections....eom


7 posted on 08/03/2007 1:07:52 AM PDT by givemELL (New AlQaeda tactics)
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To: neverdem
Good Lord, how did(we?) get so many RINOs?

You could see their power in the first, SR 1639 cloture vote. We saw many Senators thought solid... turn to mush before our eyes. It was only the deluge of phone calls, emails and letters that brought them to their senses before the second vote.

The nomination of a Rudy McRomney in 2008 would signify the high water mark for this RINO coup.

14 posted on 08/03/2007 2:55:00 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: neverdem
Veto bait, the House doesn't have close to a two thirds vote. Good Lord, how did get so many RINOs? The neoCOMs are just pushing the issue for 2008, IMHO.

Uh perhaps because people kept voting for their sorry hides each and every time they were up for re-election because Da Boogieman might get in office otherwise? Well the lesser of the two evils vote liberal also. Bush will not VETO this bill. Bush has been a supporter of this very thing since 1999. Actually he complimented a fellow RINO Friend of his who nearly bankrupted our state over this very issue.

Excerpted from a Bush 2000 press release.

Re-elected to a second term last year with a record 69 percent of the vote, Governor Sundquist has initiated unprecedented reforms in Tennessee in the areas of welfare, government and crime, while placing a special emphasis on Tennessee children. Under his watch, the growth of government spending has been cut by more than half; the number of employable adults on welfare has been reduced by 60 percent; and Tennessee became the first state in the nation to connect every public school and library to the Internet and to offer universal health care coverage to all children.

15 posted on 08/03/2007 2:56:16 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: neverdem

amother backdoor by the lib/dems and no cajone republicans to give amnesty and all benefits to illegals...

no way jorge bush will veto this piece of crappola!!!


17 posted on 08/03/2007 3:29:33 AM PDT by nyyankeefan
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To: neverdem
The Senate defied President Bush on Thursday and passed a bipartisan bill that would provide health insurance for millions of children in low-income families. The vote was 68 to 31.

When have we stepped back from our slide into socialism? We are constantly expanding our government health care to include more and more coverage for children, the poor, and the helpless. We are teaching our children that they are entitled to more pay, free health care, free food. The Marxist Democrats will not be happy until we are like Cuba or Communist China.

22 posted on 08/03/2007 4:05:11 AM PDT by olezip
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To: neverdem; Gabz; Eric Blair 2084; SheLion

Ping, Here we go......

Time to break out the T-Shirts:

Congress needs you to start smoking

I smoke for the Children

Please smoke - Kids need Medicine

Smoke “It’s for the Children”


24 posted on 08/03/2007 4:21:01 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Land of the Fee)
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To: neverdem

There is something very sinister about targeting the children of America as a Trojan Horse way of forcing through Socialism.


25 posted on 08/03/2007 6:22:53 AM PDT by montag813
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To: neverdem
The majority was more than enough to overcome the veto repeatedly threatened by Mr. Bush. The White House said the bill “goes too far in federalizing health care.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA “goes too far in federalizing health care" - so says the same President that championed No Child Left Behind. The irony is rich.
26 posted on 08/03/2007 9:49:17 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: neverdem

SEND A MESSAGE TO THE WHITE HOUSE: VETO THIS BILL.

DEMAND EACH PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE TO PUBLICLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

WRITE LETTERS TO EDITOR - THIS IS CREEPING SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.
SOCIALIZED MEDICINE IS BAD ENOUGH, BUT SOCIALIZED MEDICINE FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT FAMILIES IS GOING WAY TOO FAR!


28 posted on 08/03/2007 11:06:49 AM PDT by WOSG ( Don't tell me what you are against, tell me what you are FOR.)
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To: neverdem

MORE BAD BILLS FROM A TERRIBLE CONGRESS:
“Either way, Pelosi’s energy legislation deserves to sink. It contains a multibillion-dollar tax increase, authorizes billions in new spending, and opens up taxpayer wallets to lawsuits over the government’s inability to meet its own global-warming goals. The nation’s energy needs are best met when Congress keeps its hands off the market.”


30 posted on 08/03/2007 11:14:04 AM PDT by WOSG ( Don't tell me what you are against, tell me what you are FOR.)
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