Posted on 08/17/2007 11:45:28 AM PDT by Abathar
BS.. I just ordered 500 rounds of .223... Russian .223.
.40 S&W... not many troops using that...
I’ve found that surplus NATO boat-tail .308 projectiles (bullets) are getting hard to find on the internet in just the last few months. Can anyone suggest a good source at a reasonable price?
Old wheel weights are ideal. A lot of garages will give you all you want (buckets full) just to get rid of them. Usually they contain just the right amount of antimony for hardness. Add a little plumber’s tin to make them harder if you like.
What?!?!? Lurker owns guns? I would never have guessed.
My first handgun purchase was a Springfield 1911 in 1999. A box of 50 Speer rounds cost $12 at that time. I could reload the brass from that box for $6.00. A Dillon 550 sold for $299 at that time. Dies were about $30. A scale cost around $50. Calipers about $30. A cartridge gauge, $9. Nominally about $500 to get started with the right tools. At a savings of $6.00/50 rds, the break even is 83 boxes. I later added a 44 mag revolver. Ammo for that was $15.00/50 rds, yet reloads were again about $6.00. My wife and I were shooting almost 800 rds of 38SPL a week in San Diego. That stuff is about $10/50 rd...reloads for about $3.50. Suffice to say we amortized the cost of the Dillon press and dies in about 3 months. I did most of the reloading on Sunday nights while listening to Matt Drudge on KOGO. Sometimes my wife would knock out 400 to 500 rds of 38SPL to help keep the stock even with our level of consumption.
Aside from saving lots of money on large caliber centerfire handgun rounds, the ability to custom load my 38SPL target loads made a big difference in competition. I was able to tune my loads to the S&W 686+ and get consistent scores of 96+ on the 25 yard slow fire target. The flat point of the DEWC bullet (double ended wad cutter) left a hole like a paper punch on the paper target.
So their are cities in the US that are hiring entire regiments of 'practice' officers?
Is there not a single copy editor left on the entire planet who can read standard English? This is just embarrasing.
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I started out doing .45 ACP, then .44 mag. Naturally .44 Spcl progressed from that and then it was off to rifle calibers.
The money you save loading handgun rounds adds up even faster doing rifle rounds.
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It definitely does. I have a big Rock Chucker Supreme single stage press for doing the more difficult rounds. The big bottleneck rifle brass and long pistol brass e.g. 45/70 needs lubrication...even with good carbide dies. The larger powder throw of the big cartridges demands a little more than the Dillon 550 can do nicely. I use an RCBS powder measure for that. Recently, I broke down and purchased the RCBS Chargemaster Combo (electronic powder drop and scale coupled to produce dead accurate weights). The new powder drop is still in the box. I've been too busy to shoot or reload for months. Once the lawn stops growing, I'll get my weekends back. Time to do some major league restocking.
I decided to go with a few different .308 caliber cartridges...30-06, .308, 30-30. A box of Speer 100 gr Plinker bullets can be loaded onto any of those calibers. Fine plinking at a very affordable price compared to $1.00/round of the cheapest factory loaded ammo. Reduced recoil so my wife can enjoy shooting it too. There are lots of nice, premium bullets for hunting in that caliber too.
On a similar note, a 200 gr .451 cal plays fine in a 45Auto, 45LC, .454 Casull and 460 S&W Magnum. Choice of a common caliber also allows choice of common cleaning accessories for that caliber.
Horsehockey! Ammo is plentiful.
Let’s see, the police need high cap magazines and special armor piercing pistol rounds because they fear that the criminals will have them, which is exactly why law abiding citizens shouldn’t have them. Typical liberal logic.
>Rock Chucker
I want..
And don’t forget the beeswax for flux.
Are you illiterate? I said, "their most important tool"
If you equate police officers being properly trained in the use of their firearm with shooting people, you should be embarassed.
Being properly trained to use a firearm usually eliminates the need to actually shoot people.
25% of all police are killed with their own weapon. That statistic is due to one thing: poor training.
The computer is a great tool, but not the most important tool a police officer carries.
Running a license check is useless if your opponent is armed.
Likewise, not knowing how to run a license check will not get you killed like not knowing how to propely use a firearm.
This whole article is a load of crap. 5.56, 7.62 x 39, 45, 9mm are all readily available and after prices spiking about 6 mos. ago more affordable. I just picked up 100 rds. of Remington .38 spl +p for $25 at Wallyworld and .38 spl IS NOT a preferred military or police round. 9mm and .45 which are, are cheaper!
Yeah, I would prefer ammunition be available to deployed forces, private citizens, and then police.
Liberal PDs do not have a "can do" attitude usually.
A private reloader can churn out a lot of ammo. in a day.
And if the PD was sharp, they already would be doing that, and have an armorer and a reloading team ready incase of shortage.
And they might actually find they prefer reloads as an improvement over regular ordnance ammo, depending on who they had been buying from.
You can say that again, wifey gasped when I ordered 1000 rds of military surplus .303 ammo, and I told her that 1000 rounds is really not very much.
I also ordered a massive quantity of .22 cal. I also stocked up on 9mm, .44 mag, and 45 ACP, but more moderately.
In some ways I can't believe that I am stocking up either, but like everyone, I just got a feeling and acted on it.
This seems to be a phenomenon that is not spoken about much. People are just going out and buying way more than they customarily do, and locking it away.
Ammoman has plenty, so does www.aimsurplus.com
I just got 1,200 rounds of 45 acp from them.
You know, I hear all these stories about ammunition shortages, but I go to my local Gander Mountain store every other weekend, and they seem to have plenty of ammo.
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