Ammunition shortage squeezes police

The Indy Channel ^ | 08/17/07 | ESTES THOMPSON

[Jonah Hex]

Can we borrow your wife's friend for the weekend?

;-)

[Turborules]

Police could reload brass for practice rounds only...quality control is too important to risk a Policeman’s life

Combat ammunition the same thing...every round must be the Best America can deliver...period...we have so cut back our “MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX” WOW THE EVIL OF SUCH INSTITUTIONS THAT HAVE KEPT AMERICA FREE, AND THE MOST FORMIDABLE MILITARY ON THE PLANET!

[Abathar]

She has saved us literally hundreds, if not thousands of dollars lately. A couple of weeks ago they discontinued a HP laptop, I can't remember the model number, it's at home. We got the thing brand new in the box (it was the demo sitting behind a locked glass case, but I couldn't even find a fingerprint) for $265. It was $799 on line when I priced it out.

I paid for dinner that night....

[Erik Latranyi]

Part of the Clinton plan to affect firearm owners was to kill the ammunition industry.

They started by supressing all military purchases to drive everyone but the biggest producers out of the industry possible.

Then they allowed the import of cheap, foreign surplus ammunition to drive the prices down. Again, this forced domestic makers into bankruptcy.

Now that the military is using a large volume, there are very few remaining domestic suppliers. Those still in operation are stretched to supply both domestic and military needs.

[dashing doofus]

I just ordered several thousand rounds of 9mm and .40 from them, after someone here had a link, and I was extremely satisfied. Prices are good, delivery was lickedy split.

Excellent business.

[andy58-in-nh]

Thanks, I’ll check ‘em out. I need to stock up on .45ACP, and it’s getting pretty pricey around here.

[org.whodat]

Second, military ammunition is in short supply, but for someone to say they wait months is laughable and indicative of incompetence in that agency.

They have been busy buying donuts, then you come along and shoot holes in their story. LOL

[Red Badger]

First, most police departments do not practice enough with their most important tool.

Their brains?.......

[Red Badger]

I don’t believe there is a “shortage” of ammo. I do believe there is a shortage of “inexpensive” ammo..............

[Erik Latranyi]

They have been busy buying donuts, then you come along and shoot holes in their story.

They are buying everything BUT what is needed to perform their job properly....like firearm training, pursuit driving, etc

[Disambiguator]

None of the departments surveyed by the AP said they had pulled guns off the street,

They need to have a gun "buy-back" if they want to get those guns off the street.

/sarc

[VR-21]

"Glad I can reload everything I shoot. Especially since I have a lot of various kinds of bullets stockpiled."

Amen to that. I maintain a stockpile of components as well. I fear that the anti-gunners in government are soon going to put pressure on handloaders under the guise of anti-terrorisim. I also expect them to start in on "stockpilers" too.

I'd be willing to contribute ammo to local police for practice, but they wouldn't accept it. I've always been one to be supportive and grateful to LEOs, but I'm becoming fearful that they may become the armed wing of our Marxist party.

[dashing doofus]

Yeah. .45 is getting really expensive to practice with. I don’t reload, so I practice with 9mm, and less often with .40.

I found Rileys has some excellent prices on ball ammo in 9mm, but not sure about .45 ACP.

[Mariner]

To state they are short of .40S&W is an indictment of the city/county procurement department.

There is absolutely NO SHORTAGE of said ammunition. I can go out today and buy 100 boxes off the shelf.

What MAY be the problem is that same procurement dept is "negotiating" on the price...and that's not going to drop anytime soon. We are all stocking up.

[CholeraJoe]

supplies of .40-caliber handgun bullets and .223-caliber rifle rounds have gotten so low

.40 cal is not a military caliber. They can't blame the war.

Other than kicking down doors and murdering 90 year old women in cold blood, why do the police need .223? The AR-15 and it's variants can easily be fitted with an adapter that will allow target qualification using .22LR ammo. I qualified using this ammo twice when I was active duty.

[Current Occupant]

I need to stock up on .45ACP, and it’s getting pretty pricey around here.

Amen to that, just picked some .45 ACP at Wally-world for .28c rd. Only good for plinking but with brass at .20c it's good for shoot and reload with good JHP.

[B4Ranch]

Police departments need to get together and buy truckloads of each caliber. When you approach a manufacturer with truckload sized orders the price goes down and shipping dates shorten.

[andy58-in-nh]

Riley’s .45 Auto/FMJ is not that cheap (Blazer Brass, for the most part). I’m still going to Wal-Mart for Winchester 100-rd. boxes, but they’ve been around $29 lately. I’ll try not to think about the price when I’m at the range in ManchVegas tomorrow.

[Abathar]

I agree, it works like that for everything else.

[PeteB570]

just got my latest copy of the “Cheaper Than Dirt” mailer.

They advertise (and they are not the cheapest around) Lake City .223 at a Buyer’s Club price of $7.99 per box of 20. Thats 39.95 cents per round. They have 840 rd cases of XM855 on stripper clips for BC $474.97. Thats 56.54 cents per round.

Wolf ( wouldn’t shoot a pit bull with that) at $4.51 per box of 20. Thats 22.55 cents per round.

Maybe some police departments need to look elsewhere for ammo.