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[Mitt]Romney, [Fred]Thompson tie for straw poll victory
August 19, 2007 | Dan Shaw

Posted on 08/19/2007 4:22:16 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.jconline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070819/ELECTION01/708190344

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana; US: Massachusetts; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: 2008; electionpresident; elections; fredheads; frednecks; fredthompson; gop; in2008; indianagop; indianaprimary; midwest; mittheads; mittromney; paulbearers; paulestinians; reaganesque; republicans; ronpaul; runfredrun; strawpoll; theweatherchannel; tippecanoecounty; whitehouse
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To: JCEccles; Jim Robinson
It's far more arbitrary than that. It's currently for ex-abortion lobbyist, first amendment choking, FRed Thompson. Why? Because he has a conservative sounding voice. (i.e., he speaks "southron," a kind of redneck ebonics).

Don't you think that you should ping JR to a comment like that? I mean, he might want to know what his site has become and to thank you for helping him realize the situation. I could swear that I daily see multiple threads for Hunter, Romney, Paul, etc. What's your problem? Are you logged in?

21 posted on 08/19/2007 6:02:45 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: JillValentine
I agree that no one should be banned simply for supporting one Republican over another. Not all the Rudy supporters engaged in those tactics, and I do think the bannings went too far.

I remember those days of a few months back as an all around a discouraging time for FreeRepublic. Some of the name-calling should still be available to anyone who wants to take the time and search... unless the comments were purged too. Anyway, if Rudy does NOT win the nomination, I hope those banned Freepers (some who were members of FR for years) can still find some common ground with whomever DOES win the GOP nomination. Otherwise, we've shot ourselves in the foot.

22 posted on 08/19/2007 6:04:33 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ron Paul really won it. Ron Paul wins everything. It’s a conspiracy I tell ya!


23 posted on 08/19/2007 6:05:46 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Ron Paul: the candidate of cowardice and appeasement.)
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To: samtheman
"In fact, I am entirely sick of all the candidate bashing that goes on here, and I've stopped doing it myself. (I no longer bash Ron Paul.)"

I promise I will double my efforts to make up for your attack of conscience. :o)

25 posted on 08/19/2007 6:09:09 AM PDT by Artemis Webb (Ron Paul: the candidate of cowardice and appeasement.)
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To: Jedidah
a compelling desire to keep Hillary and her ilk out of the White House.
This is most critical. I can't disagree with any of your post. I just hope that those who become so emotional about their own candidate and talk trash about the others can overcome that in the general election should their personal favorite not the The Candidate.

People, in general, need to avoid investing their emotions in a candidate, because that's when logic departs.

Also, I hope my comment didn't seem to imply that WA is for RudyBots only. There are some very fine supporters of other candidates there too. I occasionally read there. They are so anti-some candidates that I don't stay for long, though. I also have to confess that there are some there whose presence I do not miss here at FR--and it has to with posting style, not politics.

26 posted on 08/19/2007 6:15:55 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: samtheman

It’s a conservative website not a republican website. Too many republican candidates at all levels are more leftist than their democrat opposition. That’s because we as republican voters have allowed it. “(R) means good” needs to be re-evaluated.

Jim Robinson created a forum where conservatives could meet and discuss the issues. He banned a certain group who actively cheerleaded for one of the most leftist republican candidates in history. Rudy.


27 posted on 08/19/2007 6:23:34 AM PDT by liberty or death
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To: JCEccles
***** It's far more arbitrary than that. It's currently for ex-abortion lobbyist, first amendment choking, FRed Thompson. Why? Because he has a conservative sounding voice. (i.e., he speaks "southron," a kind of redneck ebonics). ******

Aw come on. That abortion lobbyist thing is baloney - 20 billing hours, and decades ago to boot - whoopee. And so is the CFR slam. Fred has admitted that backing McIsane-Feingold was a mistake.

In any case that has nothing to do with why the Rudybots got zotted. And it certainly wasn't 'arbitrary'.

28 posted on 08/19/2007 6:38:04 AM PDT by Condor51 (Rudy makes John Kerry look like a Right Wing 'Gun Nut' Extremist)
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I think we might see a Mitt - Fred or Fred - Mitt ticket.


29 posted on 08/19/2007 6:40:05 AM PDT by webboy45
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To: JillValentine; samtheman; 2ndDivisionVet; Captain Kirk; George W. Bush; philman_36
Well, the L. Ron Paul cheerleaders were out in force saying that Paul was the One Trve Frontrunner (TM) because he won a single poll of about 250 voters.

Actually, it was 2 Straw Polls, one in Alabama 266 Votes Total, Ron Paul got 216 (81%) Votes, the 2nd placer (Mitt) got 14, here is one of those threads:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1883170/posts

The other was in New Hampshire, Ron Paul w/208 (73%) Votes, the 2nd placer (Mitt) w/26.

Juggernaut?

And they were ganging up on anyone who dared to point out the flaws in their argument.

Wouldn't want a good lie to out perform the facts here, the only ganging up was performed by the usual harping Paul bashing Saran Wrapped moonbats. Thanks for giving the opportunity to correct the record. Blackbird.

30 posted on 08/19/2007 6:49:34 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (I'm dug in, giving no more ground to the rino stampede. BB)
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To: Politicalmom; Sturm Ruger

Ping!


31 posted on 08/19/2007 6:55:11 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: BlackbirdSST
... the usual harping Paul bashing Saran Wrapped moonbats...
Press here! LOL
32 posted on 08/19/2007 7:04:35 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: samtheman; George W. Bush; Condor51; Clara Lou; Jim Robinson
I’m glad I don’t know much about it. I’m afraid of quitting this place. I don’t want to quit this place. I like it here a lot. But if it gets to the point where only certain candidate preferences are permitted — even if that candidate is one I prefer myself — then I will quit.

Free Republic should mean Free Speech for all Republicans and conservatives.

Even those who support Ron Paul. Even those who support Giuliani.

Some of the Rudybots got into words with The Boss on the thread—and he took a lot of “trash”, I guess you’d say, before he pulled the switch.

15 posted on 08/19/2007 8:43:34 AM EDT by Clara Lou

Bottom line - FR is for conservatives and conservative causes. Not 'republicans' and/or 'pro abortion moderates' (rudy and his bots).

14 posted on 08/19/2007 8:22:55 AM EDT by Condor51

That is the bottom line, almost. The bottom line is that Jim Robinson owns the site. And whether you or I agree 100% with his decisions or not - and I think that the success of the site, and the fact that you and I spend so much time on it, reflects the fact that he has manifested superb judgment overall - he ultimately makes the call.

If Jim says something or some candidate (Guliani, in this case) is not conservative - and puts his foot down on the issue - then, at least on this site, Guliani ain't conservative. And I happen to agree with that assessment, and as a resident of a county near New York City I think I was among the first on FR to point that fact out when people were waxing enthusiastic about him early on.

But it always has to boil down to someone making, or failing to make, a call. Fail to make a call - allow pornography on the site, for example - and you repulse your target audience. Make a series of wrong calls, and you lose the people who attract your target audience. Those are the constraints within which Jim operates on the site, but how he slices and dices it is in reality his decision.

But do not suppose that you can have free speech and still have that target audience. You want free speech, you got it - just do it on your own site, and attract the audience you want to target, as well as you can. But you and I know that it would be awfully cold out there. So until and unless something really blows up, we will salute Jim's decisions and continue to contribute (intellectually and I hope financially) to FR.

33 posted on 08/19/2007 7:08:36 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: philman_36
LOL! It sure is transparent how a Straw Poll holds significance by who wins or loses! Blackbird.
34 posted on 08/19/2007 7:09:08 AM PDT by BlackbirdSST (I'm dug in, giving no more ground to the rino stampede. BB)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

26% of 180 people in a town in Indiana- wow, what a juggernaut.


35 posted on 08/19/2007 7:18:06 AM PDT by richmwill
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To: BlackbirdSST

Aw, man, you know straw polls don’t mean anything. That’s why they keep doing them.


36 posted on 08/19/2007 7:20:10 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: BlackbirdSST

oops.../sarcasm


37 posted on 08/19/2007 7:21:38 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: richmwill
Every straw poll, every national and state poll add up, and the numbers show that an UNDECLARED candidate is kicking butt on those that have been running and scheming since 2004 or before. What would that tell you if you weren’t blinded by your allegiance to a RINO?
38 posted on 08/19/2007 7:26:36 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum)
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To: BlackbirdSST
Actually, it was 2 Straw Polls, one in Alabama 266 Votes Total, Ron Paul got 216 (81%) Votes, the 2nd placer (Mitt) got 14, here is one of those threads:

RP is winning all those NH straw polls consistently and overwhelmingly.

As with Buchanan in '96, NH is RP's single best shot at a primary win or a second place finish.
39 posted on 08/19/2007 8:26:26 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudy: tough on terror, scared of Iowa, wets himself over YouTube)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Fred wins the nomination, he needs to do some exhaustive
polling of moderate,suburban,WHITE,women. This is where the
election will be won or lost.He should make a list of VP candidates
ranked in order of their acceptability to that group of
women.


40 posted on 08/19/2007 8:40:04 AM PDT by GiveMeGoth
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