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Clinton faces gender gap as she stumps in Iowa
McClatchy News via SacBee ^ | 8/21/7 | Matt Stearns - Mcclatchy Washington Bureau

Posted on 08/21/2007 7:57:48 AM PDT by SmithL

DES MOINES, Iowa -- A pair of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's worst nightmares trudged past a giant blue "Hillary for President" sign outside the Iowa State Fair here with palpable disgust.

"Hillary can go to hell," said Alice Aszman, 66, a Democrat from Ottumwa. "I'll never vote for her. I don't think a woman should be president. I think a man should. They've got more authority."

Her husband, Daniel, 50, also a Democrat, agreed: "I think women should stay home instead of being boss."

That's not what Clinton wants to hear from voters like the Aszmans, who described themselves as "working-class." But there's also no question that, even as Clinton, the New York Democrat, widens her lead in national polls of Democratic voters, becoming the first female president won't be easy.

Appealing to female voters as a sister-in-arms won't be enough to win the White House, and a potentially worrisome gender gap has emerged in polls between levels of male and female support for Clinton.

A July poll of likely Democratic caucus-goers by the University of Iowa found that Clinton had 30 percent support among women and 18 percent among men. By comparison, there was no difference in gender support for Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, who got 21 percent from both men and women.

The same poll found that 32 percent of women strongly agreed that Clinton was electable, while only 14 percent of men did.

Clinton brings special baggage to the campaign, demonized as she was through the 1990s by conservative talk-show hosts haranguing the white male voters whom Clinton must woo now. That's one reason Clinton has the highest "disapproval ratings" among Democrats, ranging into the mid-40s in national polls.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; clinton; democrats; elections; hillary; ia2008; piaps; womanpresident
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To: ikka

The main thing was exercising authority that belonged to her husband, not her. She acted as thorugh she were her husband’s prime minister, not his wife.


41 posted on 08/21/2007 9:58:26 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: traditional1

42 posted on 08/21/2007 10:02:16 AM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: Califreak
Good one!

That's a "keeper".

43 posted on 08/21/2007 10:03:29 AM PDT by traditional1
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To: traditional1

It’s getting harder and harder to watch local nooz now.

The bias is overwhelming.


44 posted on 08/21/2007 10:05:40 AM PDT by Califreak (Go Hunter!)
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To: tdewey10

I agree. The victim card is going to get real old, real fast.


45 posted on 08/21/2007 10:21:53 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: AmericanExceptionalist
"I don't think a woman should be president."

And I strongly disagree with the reasoning stated above.

I don't disagree one bit. I will never vote for a woman president. Never. Ever.

FMCDH(BITS)

46 posted on 08/21/2007 10:40:28 AM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Lexington Green

“Eschew the Shrew”

Excellent. I want a bumpersticker.


47 posted on 08/21/2007 10:50:50 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus ("Eat yer groatcakes, Porgy!" "Heavy on the thirty weight, Mom!")
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To: freekitty
"Hillary can go to hell,” said Alice Aszman, 66, a Democrat from Ottumwa. “I’ll never vote for her. I don’t think a woman should be president. I think a man should. They’ve got more authority.” Her husband, Daniel, 50, also a Democrat, agreed: “I think women should stay home instead of being boss.”

This is the flipside of the "lifelong republican" now being for Obama. These people are shills for a "poor picked-on Hillary" campaign. I don't believe this for a second. Who even talks like this?

49 posted on 08/21/2007 12:07:21 PM PDT by boop (Trunk Monkey. Is there anything he can't do?)
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To: nothingnew
I don't disagree one bit. I will never vote for a woman president. Never. Ever.

That is certainly your right. As it is your right to refuse to vote for someone on the basis or race, ethnicity, or any of the characteristics of one's birth.

But you might want to bear in mind that gender did not seem to be an impediment to Margaret Thatcher's performance in the UK in the 1980s.

Of course, Hillary is no Margaret Thatcher. I oppose Hillary because (1) she is a closet leftist, who vacillates between making centrist noises (for general-election purposes) and trying to mollify the leftist base of her chosen party; and (2) she is plainly Machiavellian--which is to say, principle-free--but for more on this, see the previous point.

But if you sincerely believe that all women are, by definition, unfit to serve as president, then we will just have to agree to disagree.

50 posted on 08/21/2007 12:20:09 PM PDT by AmericanExceptionalist (Democrats believe in discussing the full spectrum of ideas, all the way from far left to center-left)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist

Wait! I thought Karl Rove was Hillary’s worst nightmare?


51 posted on 08/21/2007 12:26:28 PM PDT by princess leah
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To: traditional1

Not a pretty face!


52 posted on 08/21/2007 2:12:50 PM PDT by juliej (vote gop)
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To: Yehuda

“clinton faces gender gap as he humps in iowa....”

looks like a satanic ritual.


53 posted on 08/21/2007 2:57:13 PM PDT by ripley
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To: boop

I agree; but the Clintons have used the same MO to make them look better in the past.


54 posted on 08/21/2007 3:08:23 PM PDT by freekitty (May the eagles long fly over our beautiful and free American sky.)
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To: ikka

By this time, 90 percent of the people of IA have never heard of Vince Foster.


55 posted on 08/21/2007 4:54:43 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: Yehuda

49 percent of the people would follow this creature to Mars if he could take them.


56 posted on 08/21/2007 4:55:36 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist

Considering the level of voter ignorance, it may be that 70 percent of Democrats think HRC is already their nominee for 2008.


57 posted on 08/21/2007 4:56:26 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Cowardice is still forever!)
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To: SmithL

Stumpin is a good word for her thighness.


58 posted on 08/21/2007 4:56:45 PM PDT by dforest (Duncan Hunter is the best hope we have on both fronts.)
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To: SmithL

some clingon operative wrote this propaganda piece.


59 posted on 08/21/2007 4:59:33 PM PDT by ken21 (28 yrs +2 families = banana republic junta. si.)
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To: AmericanExceptionalist
But if you sincerely believe that all women are, by definition, unfit to serve as president, then we will just have to agree to disagree.

Agreed.

FMCDH(BITS)

60 posted on 08/21/2007 10:30:19 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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