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Democrats Strategize on How to Cast the U.S. Troop Surge in Iraq as Failure (Rats spinning)
foxnews ^ | 8/23/2007 | fox news

Posted on 08/23/2007 9:18:14 AM PDT by tobyhill

WASHINGTON — Congressional Democratic leaders are aggressively strategizing a new offensive against the Bush administration's management of the Iraq war as more and more anti-war lawmakers publicly acknowledge successes ahead of a key White House progress report.

Aware of the trouble Iraqi progress could mean for Democrats at home — House Whip James Clyburn recently said if the surge were successful, it would be "a real problem for us" — a revised set of talking points is being worked up by Democrats that declares the escalation of troops in Iraq has not been successful despite White House claims otherwise.

That point is expected to be sharpened on Thursday after lawmakers receive the latest National Intelligence Estimate ahead of the report due next month. Democrats are likely to emphasize the potential threats listed in the NIE as demonstrative of the Iraqi government's failure to achieve political reconciliation.

One leadership aide previewed the new argument — laid out in an hour-long conference call Tuesday — by saying that limited military success does not mean the surge has fulfilled its goals. The contention is that the surge was implemented to give an opportunity for the political process to get moving and "obviously" that hasn't happened.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; democratparty; investedintreason; iraq; jamesclyburn; reid; spin
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1 posted on 08/23/2007 9:18:17 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
They have a problem. So they have to keep triangulating between their kook base, which hates Bush and the American people, who support the troops. The Democrats are in a no-win position.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

2 posted on 08/23/2007 9:19:55 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: tobyhill

Sickening beyond description.


3 posted on 08/23/2007 9:20:08 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo (There are four types of homicide: felonious, accidental, justifiable, and praiseworthy)
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To: tobyhill
House Whip James Clyburn recently said if the surge were successful, it would be "a real problem for us"

That should be the mime for the '08 election campaign.

4 posted on 08/23/2007 9:20:30 AM PDT by AU72
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To: AU72

Can we start calling them traitors now?


5 posted on 08/23/2007 9:21:49 AM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: tobyhill
It reminds me of the scene from Patton when Field Marshall Montgomery was told that Patton had taken Palermo.

Monty exclaimed: "Damn!"

6 posted on 08/23/2007 9:22:46 AM PDT by AU72
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7 posted on 08/23/2007 9:23:06 AM PDT by drpix
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To: tobyhill
The contention is that the surge was implemented to give an opportunity for the political process to get moving and "obviously" that hasn't happened.

Liars! The surge was implemented to improve the security situation, not to have the "political process to get moving"!

Don't let these liars get away with this!!!

8 posted on 08/23/2007 9:25:16 AM PDT by sauropod (You can’t spell crap without the AP in it.)
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To: goldstategop
The Democrats are in a no-win position

You'd think so, however the last election says otherwise.

9 posted on 08/23/2007 9:26:44 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: tobyhill

Imagine spinning anything in an effort to make it look like our military forces are losers. Republicans won’t have to spin this: Democrat leadership is despicable.


10 posted on 08/23/2007 9:27:19 AM PDT by Neverforget01
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...

ping


11 posted on 08/23/2007 9:27:31 AM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: L98Fiero

The Rats are in a quagmire and are trying their hardest to get out of it. The Rats and MSM are pulling out all the stops to now say Iraq is not comparable to Vietnam after years of saying they were even though President Bush never compared the wars, he compared the possible aftermath of Iraq to the aftermath of Vietnam.


12 posted on 08/23/2007 9:28:16 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: AU72

“If good news out of Iraq is “...a real problem for us (the Dems)”

Does that mean that they would prefer some bad news out of Iraq?

Would a huge amount of casulties and maybe a couple helicopters being shot down amount to good news for the Democrats???????


13 posted on 08/23/2007 9:33:43 AM PDT by Former MSM Viewer ("We will hunt the terrorists in every dark corner of the earth. We will be relentless." W 2001)
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To: tobyhill

Were the stakes not so high, it would be kind of funny. In any event, their bunch up even further, the White House should quote Ted Kennedy on his Vietnam references, state why he was in error and why the president’s aftermath analysis is correct...


14 posted on 08/23/2007 9:33:55 AM PDT by eureka! (Is power so important to the Democrats that they are willing to betray our country? Sadly, yes.)
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To: goldstategop

Hence the tagline:


15 posted on 08/23/2007 9:38:34 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (If You Support America - Thank a Soldier; If You Support Al-Qaeda - Thank a Democrat!)
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To: tobyhill

Well, the MSM helped them convince the public that Bush “made” them vote for the war in the first place. They think they can get away with anything, cuz they OWN the Media.


16 posted on 08/23/2007 9:44:22 AM PDT by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: Former MSM Viewer
Clyburn admitted the problem they have and from what I hear he advised the Blue Dogs that if they didn’t go with the program of dispersing the negative through their MSM friends they would not get committee assignments and it would be harder for them to get money for their districts from the unlimited pork. The meeting they had this morning was about the exact same thing, punishment or follow the program.
17 posted on 08/23/2007 9:46:45 AM PDT by tobyhill (The media lies so much the truth is the exception)
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To: Puppage
You'd think so, however the last election says otherwise.

With a lot of thanks to many pubbies = including freepers = who vowed to vote out the pubbies to "teach them a lesson" because of their Johnny-One-Note issue = immigration.

Well, they succeeded. They gave the Reids, Pelosis, et al the reins. Hope they're happy now - They got their wish.

And gave Al Queda their wish in the bargain.

18 posted on 08/23/2007 9:46:49 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ( "...but you can't fool all of the people all the time." LINCOLN)
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To: maine-iac7

” With a lot of thanks to many pubbies = including freepers = who vowed to vote out the pubbies to “teach them a lesson” because of their Johnny-One-Note issue = immigration.

Well, they succeeded. They gave the Reids, Pelosis, et al the reins. Hope they’re happy now - They got their wish.

And gave Al Queda their wish in the bargain.”

Very well said.


19 posted on 08/23/2007 9:58:52 AM PDT by Let's Roll (As usual, following a shooting spree, libs want to take guns away from those who DIDN'T do it.)
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To: maine-iac7

“Well, they succeeded. They gave the Reids, Pelosis, et al the reins. Hope they’re happy now - They got their wish.

And gave Al Queda their wish in the bargain.

I agree wholeheartedly


20 posted on 08/23/2007 10:06:30 AM PDT by DM1
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