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Sen. Craig resigns over sex sting
AP on Yahoo ^ | 9/1/07 | John Miller and Matthew Daly - ap

Posted on 09/01/2007 9:46:52 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: Wil H
Thank you for your clarification of the the event........

My heart goes out to his family, particularly his wife...

61 posted on 09/01/2007 1:23:04 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: BenLurkin; oldglory; MinuteGal

“The Pubbies throw out their rotten apples. The Rats make re-elect their rotten apples.” ~ BenLurkin

They are NAILED at these two links:

Dr. Sanity Saturday, September 01, 2007
THERE’S HYPOCRISY; AND THEN THERE’S META-HYPOCRISY
http://drsanity.blogspot.com/

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Gagdad Saturday, September 01, 2007
Let’s Play Who’s the Victim?!
http://onecosmos.blogspot.com/

One of the appeals of leftism is that you can never be called a hypocrite. That is, if you have no standards, then there is no standard by which to judge you.

Why then are leftists so incredibly, gleefully judgmental? Because, as Polanyi http://www.amazon.com/Everyman-Revived-Common-Michael-Polanyi/dp/0802840795 pointed out, one of the defining characteristics of leftism is the subversion of traditional morality.

But since you cannot eliminate the moral impulse, it ends up becoming unhinged, that is, uncontained by any transcendent moral boundaries. Therefore, the moral impulse “fuses,” as it were, with what is below instead of what is above, and becomes a dangerous vehicle of the most base passions. This is why leftism is associated with the greatest mass murderers of all time — Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, et al.

In a lengthy essay entitled Hitler Was a Socialist, http://jonjayray.tripod.com/hitler.html John J. Ray makes reference to the notoriously “slippery standards”of the left, writing that they “have no fixed principles. If a principle suits their rhetorical needs of today they will proclaim their loyalty to it — and then cheerfully adopt the opposite principle tomorrow if that happens to suit the rhetorical needs of that day.”

Regarding the absence of fixed principles, I can remember on many occasions hearing liberals insist that Saddam was “our creation,” and that, like the Shah of Iran or Marcos in the Philipines, we were morally responsible for him.

If true — which it wasn’t — then it would follow that we would be responsible for removing him and “restoring” freedom.

Since that is exactly what President Bush did, the left had to fabricate ulterior motives for the liberation of Iraq — Haliburton, big oil, imposing theocracy in America, etc.

Because of the traumatic cognitive dissonance of President Bush putting their vacant ideals into action, the left had to detach from reality and enter a parallel looniverse of political discourse, in which Bush was and is condemned on wholly fantasized grounds. This is what I mean about the fusing of the moral impulse with the unconscious “primary process,” the latter of which is rooted in wish fulfillment rather than the dictates of reality.

In a passage that encapsulates volumes that could be written about the left, Ray discusses the deep structure of leftism, which is always the same, even while the surface content changes from era to era, year to year, day to day, and even moment to moment (as anyone knows who has tried to engage in rational debate with a leftist — you can’t do so, because the rhetorical ground keeps shifting under your feet). Like the borderline personality, they possess a kind of “stable instability” that is their only enduring structure: ..” [snip] Click link to continue:http://onecosmos.blogspot.com/


62 posted on 09/01/2007 1:28:55 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (The 'RAT Party - Home of our most envious, hypocritical, and greedy citizens.)
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To: Fawn

You sound worried. Do you actively do these things?

Why would you reach for your shoe?
Why would you pick toilet paper up off of the floor as it is the maid’s job.
Why would you not check the toilet paper supply before sitting down?

Why are you defending this lying pervert.

I just hope that he has not passed on AIDS to his wife or is that okay with you too?.


63 posted on 09/01/2007 1:29:39 PM PDT by Eaker (If illegal immigrants were so great for an economy; Mexico would be building a wall to keep them in)
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To: GOP_Raider

Well, I hope that you are enjoying your vacation, if nothing else!


64 posted on 09/01/2007 1:30:48 PM PDT by Disambiguator (What's the temperature, Albert?)
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To: marktwain
Too bad. Craig did a lot of good.

Yes, he did. A lot of good.

It will be very interesting to see if he can get this charge expunged.

65 posted on 09/01/2007 1:33:27 PM PDT by Justice
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To: NormsRevenge
So I'm told from a close acquaintance who lives in Idaho, that everybody in Idaho knew he was gay.....and they've known it for years...and they're glad he's gone. Course she's a democrat...and according to her Idaho is such a republican state that a republican could commit murder and he/she would get elected. anyway.....

So this is what I have to put up with....I kept quiet, and never even brought up Clinton's rape accussations.

66 posted on 09/01/2007 1:36:51 PM PDT by Auntie Toots (The GOP is still the best we've got.....AND THAT USED TO BE THE TRUTH)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
>How come republicans don’t realize that?

More pertinent is why these officials troll for strangers to engage in homosexual sex in a public bathroom?

Good God, that is outright perverted.

67 posted on 09/01/2007 1:50:29 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Wil H

Hear hear!


68 posted on 09/01/2007 1:58:24 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: NormsRevenge

A number of people here just don’t seem to get it. It doesn’t matter whether Senator Craig is gay, or even that he pled guilty to a misdomeanor. What matters is that he was trolling for sex in a public restroom.

Many people find this very disturbing, and the restroom he chose is one where there is a fair chance of children being present.

For those who have never used a public mens’ room, let me explain a few things. Men do not tap each other’s feet, while sitting on the toilet. (Craig did this repeatedly.) Men do not reach under the partitions to display their hand to the man in the adjacent stall. Men do not peer through the gaps between stalls to look at the man taking a crap in the next stall.

I am 53 years old, have used public restrooms thousands of times, and never seen any of these behaviors. Any one of them would have provoked a strong negative reaction on my part. Men don’t act like this unless they are seeking to do something that is completely inappropriate in a public restroom.


69 posted on 09/01/2007 2:04:01 PM PDT by 3niner (War is one game where the home team always loses.)
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To: varon

What? I've got a wide stance, OK?


70 posted on 09/01/2007 2:25:52 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: 3niner
I was looking for love in all the wrong places
Looking for love in too many faces
Searching your eyes, looking for traces
Of what.. I'm dreaming of...
Hopin' to find a friend and a lover
God bless the day I discover
Another heart, lookin' for love

You came a'knocking at my stall's door..
You're everything I've been looking for..


71 posted on 09/01/2007 2:33:05 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: bill1952

a weakness of the mind and soul, a bent for self destruction, how else can it be explained?


72 posted on 09/01/2007 2:34:19 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (Skip the Moon, go for Mars)
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To: Liberty Valance

LOL!


73 posted on 09/01/2007 2:37:51 PM PDT by SIDENET (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Well if it is any consolation to him, his constant lying and now his determination to use his “forces” to have a guilty plea changed, makes him look like a bigger ass than he did when it was just about his solicitation for gay sex.


74 posted on 09/01/2007 2:39:10 PM PDT by usastandsunited
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To: MurryMom
Senator Craig’s resignation was a class act, unlike most GOP speeches. I didn’t hear Sen. Craig attempt to place one word of blame on the Clintons for his own criminal conduct.

What other speeches have done this?

Please throw out some examples because I don't know what you're talking about.

75 posted on 09/01/2007 2:41:09 PM PDT by SIDENET (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: BenLurkin
I hope our nation’s future never includes total acceptance of corruption in exchange for desired policy.

Quote of the day IMNSHO.

76 posted on 09/01/2007 2:43:14 PM PDT by dearolddad
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To: NormsRevenge
"I am not gay. I never have been gay," Craig said at a news conference here Tuesday

Of course, he didn't say anything about "bi".

BTW, I tend to agree with the caller to Rush's show that suspected that Hillary's operatives had this Republican Senator Craig Gay Toilet Sex Trolling story released in order to edge-out the Hsu/Clinton Potentially Criminal Influence-buying/campaign Cash Laundering Scandal (or whatever you choose to call it) news story.

77 posted on 09/01/2007 5:20:24 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: usastandsunited

He is a moron if he thinks going to court, being sworn in then having to answer questions about his behavior is goingto be a winner for him. “Mr. Craig is this the first time you have solicitted sex in a mens room?”


78 posted on 09/01/2007 6:58:41 PM PDT by bigjackattack
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To: Auntie Toots
I'm glad he's going (not yet gone) because I'm tired of his pro illegal alien pattern of behavior. His pro 2nd amendment record was good, but he wasn't always as careful as he should have been. That bill to protect the gun dealers from frivilous lawsuits was left wide open to lots of anti-gun amendments. Craig had to pull the bill to avoid being the author of a major league disaster for 2nd amendment rights.

The local news indicates that Jim Risch will be the replacement appoint by Gov Butch Otter. Risch hasn't always been seen as a solid conservative...especially by some of the local conservative talk radio types in eastern Idaho. The Democrats wanted a nameless, faceless nobody to be selected to replace Craig so they wouldn't have to run against a well known incumbent. Tough. They are the minority party in Idaho. When they successfully elect a challenger, they can start making some demands.

79 posted on 09/01/2007 7:51:51 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Seaplaner
The good news is that Hsu turned himself in. He is currently jailed in California. That was probably a calculated risk. Better than being another Arkancide.
80 posted on 09/01/2007 7:53:30 PM PDT by Myrddin
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