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(Raider Nation) NFL Team's Attire Holds Gang Appeal
PE.com ^ | Saturday, September 1, 2007 | JOHN F. BERRY

Posted on 09/02/2007 9:32:53 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

NFL team's attire holds gang appeal

10:00 PM PDT on Saturday, September 1, 2007

By JOHN F. BERRY

The Press-Enterprise

SAN BERNARDINO - The Oakland Raiders, a dozen years after fleeing Los Angeles, finished the 2006 regular season with a 2-14 record -- the worst in the NFL.

Despite the teams' embarrassing performance, silver-and-black attired Raider Nation fans significantly outnumber any other sports team appearing daily at the main San Bernardino County courthouse in downtown San Bernardino.

Criminal gang prosecutors are unimpressed.

"Generally speaking, those wearing Raiders gear in Southern California are associated with gangs," said Cheryl Kersey, who leads the hard-core gang prosecution unit for the San Bernardino County district attorney's office.

"Most Southern California gangs have adopted the Raiders, probably 90 percent," Kersey said. "We rarely see other attire from other sports teams."

In her office, Kersey has five black hats confiscated during search warrants involving gangs. She said they are used to train law enforcement on recognizing gang symbols.

One is a Raiders hat doctored to reflect an Inland Empire gang connection. The others are also black with lettering reflecting gang names.

Gangs first pick their colors, then find a team that coincides with them, Kersey said. Black is popular among Hispanic gangs in Southern California, she said.

Raiders gear dominates the courthouse because gang members must adopt the team as their own when they join, she said.

"You pledge loyalty," she said. "No individuals are allowed."

Gang membership dictates the cars members drive, the women they date and the teams they like, Kersey said.

"If they weren't a Raiders fan before joining a gang, they certainly will become one," she said.

Gang prosecutor Doug Poston said the Raiders' bad-boy image -- a pirate with a swashbuckling attitude -- is the attraction.

"It goes back to the westerns," Poston said. "Bad guys wear black."

Frustration

Both a lawyer for the Oakland Raiders and the president of the only official Inland Empire team booster club said they are aware of criminal gangs co-opting the silver and black.

"It's very frustrating to be identified by a few bad apples representing the whole core," said Patsie Sevier, a Riverside grandmother and president of the Inland Empire Raiders Booster Club. "We get discriminated against -- us legitimate folks."

Sevier, a retired airplane mechanic, said her 200-strong group is treated badly when it travels to visitor stadiums en masse. She said her group is unfairly stereotyped as gang members.

"We take children and grandchildren. They have been taunted by adults," Sevier said. "We set an example. We show that Raider fans are nice."

Sevier said she started her informal club in 1985. She said the Raiders officially recognized her club -- which includes officers, bylaws and planning meetings -- in 1990.

Sevier said illegitimate Raiders fans are easy to spot on game day because they buy cheap seats and wear knock-offs.

"It's mainly the gangs that use fake jerseys," Sevier said. "It's recognizable with folks who pay for the official items."

Jeff Birren, an attorney for the Raiders for 22 years, said the gang stereotype began eroding while the team played in Los Angeles from 1982 to 1994. He described the stigma as a "non-issue."

"At one time, there was that perception that our colors were related to gang involvement," Birren said. "It's dissipated with the passage of time."

Birren said gangs may have adopted the silver-and-black as a favorite team because Oakland Raiders merchandise is abundant and available. He said the team has generally been No. 1 in NFL sales for decades.

Global Appeal

A July news release from the Raiders said their merchandise is among the top NFL sellers worldwide. It said the team leads the league in multicultural initiatives, including recently adding Japanese and Tagalog information to its Web site.

"There is something about our mystique, our history, our passion that touches people from all walks of life," Birren said. "We are truly global."

A USC professor said hard-core Raider fans are as loyal as any fan base in sports.

"It's an in-your-face attitude, they revel in it," sports professor David Carter said. "They want to be thought of as hard-to-the-bone. (They're) not going to be drinking chardonnay."

Carter said Raider fans are making statements about themselves when they join Raider Nation -- which explains why the Raiders are still popular in Southern California despite moving back to Oakland before the 1995 season.

"Raider fans see Raider Nation as a way of life," Carter said. "You don't abandon a team just because a team moves."

Loyalty

Rialto truck driver Paul Barajas, 27, wore a Raiders T-shirt to court last week to answer a theft charge.

"I don't care what everybody else thinks," he said. "I wear it even when they're losing."

His mother, Linda Barajas, 60, said none of her six children were in gangs. She said they became Raiders fans when she paid attention to football.

"In our time, they were No. 1," she said. "Those were the old days."

Poston said he was a Raiders fan until they left Los Angeles.

"Despite their abysmal record, they are a legitimate NFL team," he said. "It's unfortunate they're getting a bad rap."

Poston and Kersey said they have season tickets to the San Diego Chargers.

Defendants show a lack of decorum when they wear sports jerseys to court, Poston said.

"Anybody who wears an NFL jersey to court -- whether it's Raiders or not -- is not exactly dressed for success," he said. "I wouldn't wear my Chargers jersey to court."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: blackandsilver; crime; gangbangers; gangs; gangsta; ghetto; nfl; oakland; oaklandraiders; raidernation; raiders; stereotype; thugs
"NFL team's attire holds gang appeal"

Raider Nation...well duh.

I guess that this was news only to the reporter

1 posted on 09/02/2007 9:32:55 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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To: DogByte6RER

Seems the Raiders’ “gang appeal” skyrocketed when their team crashed and burned. Can’t recall gangbangers wearing Raider gear when they were among the consistently great teams in pro sports. Seems losers are attracted to losers.


2 posted on 09/02/2007 9:36:50 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo ("Hidin' in a corner ...of New York City, lookin' down a .44 in West Virginy")
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To: GOP_Raider

Ping! They’re talkin’ ‘bout ‘choo.


3 posted on 09/02/2007 9:40:33 PM PDT by Disambiguator (What's the temperature, Albert?)
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To: Jersey Republican Biker Chick

Ping


4 posted on 09/02/2007 9:41:31 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: DogByte6RER

What’s wrong with bangers making themselves more visually identifiable?

Someone should market a line of wear exclusively to such scumbags. A hat and shirt combo or something. Name of the gang, position in the chain of command, list of crimes committed, etc. Make them fully customizable to the individual tard.


5 posted on 09/02/2007 9:44:29 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: DogByte6RER

I’ve been a Raider fan since about the ‘70 season, before the gangs took them over. Sad.

Gangs need to go. Davis was great in his day but now needs to hand the team over to someone else.


6 posted on 09/02/2007 9:44:34 PM PDT by rbosque ("To educate a person in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." - Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: DogByte6RER

Bored late at night I needed to go to sleep...

So I turned on SWAT it is like cops but the SWAT runs.

One of the cops working along with the SWAT guys was wearing a VICKS Jersey.

I am no sports person but with the awful news surrounding this creep the Jersey Shirt with Vicks on the back stood out like a sore thumb.

So guess that cop ain’t so cool undercover with that get up anymore.


7 posted on 09/02/2007 9:45:34 PM PDT by Global2010 ( Not to Late to Pray for comfort at this moment.....)
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To: DogByte6RER

Yeah, I remember 15-16 years here in MN there was a kid who was killed for his Raiders starter jacket. Kind of one of those duhh articles.


8 posted on 09/02/2007 9:50:16 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: SevenofNine

ping


9 posted on 09/02/2007 9:51:08 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: DogByte6RER

About 20 years ago, I sold sporting goods stuff, including NFL merchandise. Raiders apparel was popular among a particular demographic.


10 posted on 09/02/2007 9:51:37 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
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To: monkapotamus

Just because small group of gangbangers took over Raider logo there are plenty of hard working Raider fans

Don’t put all Raider fans in gangbangers barrel here


11 posted on 09/02/2007 9:52:51 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: SevenofNine

There was a jewish player for the Raider, name escapes me, who claims that Moshe Dyan is the monocled character on the helmet.


12 posted on 09/02/2007 9:56:40 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
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To: Perdogg

It wasn’t Lyle Alzado was it?


13 posted on 09/02/2007 10:00:59 PM PDT by Horatio Gates
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To: Perdogg

I hear that when Raiders were in SO CAL guy who I knew who happen to be Israeli Jew think that he wasn’t postivie that Raider symbol was guy who lead IDF army back in 1960 into 1970s

Also don’t forget Al Davis was History major what I understand he always been interested in war history


14 posted on 09/02/2007 10:02:47 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: SevenofNine; Perdogg

Dayan’s major successes as a military commander were in the late 40s through the 50s, well before the Raiders were a franchise. So he very well could’ve been the model for the dude on the helmet.


15 posted on 09/02/2007 10:08:59 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo ("Hidin' in a corner ...of New York City, lookin' down a .44 in West Virginy")
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To: Horatio Gates

No it was Ben somebody.


16 posted on 09/02/2007 10:16:06 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
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To: Horatio Gates

Ben Davidson.


17 posted on 09/02/2007 10:18:36 PM PDT by Perdogg (Cheney for President 2008)
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To: Perdogg

Ahhh...former Husky. I should of known that!


18 posted on 09/02/2007 10:23:05 PM PDT by Horatio Gates
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To: Disambiguator

And the lady on the phone when I tried to order an authentic Swervin’ Mervyn Fernandez thought I was joking...


19 posted on 09/02/2007 10:32:55 PM PDT by GOP_Raider ("I guess I like to do things that bother people." -Urban Meyer)
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To: DogByte6RER
I guess that this was news only to the reporter

It must have been as the Raiders have seemingly always drawn this element. My company had season tickets in LA for both the Rams and Raiders, plus I had season tickets for USC. The crowd for Raider games was a far different element then we saw at both the USC and Ram games.

We gave up the Raider tickets mainly because of the propensity for fights and altercations at their games.

20 posted on 09/02/2007 10:58:00 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: DogByte6RER
I'll never forget the Heidi Game.
21 posted on 09/02/2007 11:06:11 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: SevenofNine; Perdogg
who claims that Moshe Dyan is the monocled character on the helmet.


Moshe Dayan

Moshe Dayan was the Israeli defense Minister during the '67 war and gained world wide prominence as a result of the war.

That was after the design of the Raider logo, which goes back to the early sixties. Probably a coincidence and not a plan.

Perhaps a minor point, but, their patches are on different eyes, Dayan's is on the left eye and Raider's logo is on the right.

22 posted on 09/02/2007 11:09:53 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("The military Mission has long since been accomplished" -- Harry Reid, April 23, 2007)
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To: DogByte6RER

Thanks Jack Tatum.


23 posted on 09/03/2007 2:47:18 AM PDT by mmanager (Fred instead of Purebred, Crossbred and the Hothead)
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To: DogByte6RER

24 posted on 09/03/2007 7:21:56 AM PDT by Clovis_Skeptic (Isalm is a religion of peace my @$s)
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To: Lazarus Longer

It’s not just the black and silver colors nor the pirate emblem, it’s the thuggish reputation Raider teams have had for 30 years.


25 posted on 09/03/2007 9:49:42 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: Global2010

How long ago do you think that was filmed?


26 posted on 09/03/2007 9:52:13 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Clovis_Skeptic

27 posted on 09/03/2007 9:56:00 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: DogByte6RER

Nice Raider fans are sort of like nice Muslims. They’re rare and they keep quiet about all the crimes being committed in their name.


28 posted on 09/03/2007 10:00:34 AM PDT by Tall_Texan (Global warming? Hell, in Texas, we just call that "summer".)
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To: Lazarus Longer

Its the illegal alien invasion that is the cause of the problem. The metizos have adopted the Raiders and they see themselves as the raiders.


29 posted on 09/03/2007 10:07:39 AM PDT by winodog ( Coming Attractions: They cant legislate morality but can legislate hate)
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To: AppyPappy

I would guess before the bad news hit the fan and Vicks was still popular for his atheletic abilities not doomed yet from his private activities.


30 posted on 09/03/2007 11:34:43 AM PDT by Global2010 ( Not to Late to Pray for comfort at this moment.....)
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To: DogByte6RER
But the Raiders lose cool points because they've been assimilated into the sanctioned and acceptable gang profile that is professional sports.

When college ball arrives there, I'll be done with football.

-Joan

31 posted on 09/03/2007 11:37:25 AM PDT by JoanVarga
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To: Michael.SF.

That interesting probably just irony of Raiders choosing pirate and people get mix up with IDF guy

MAN if you read his history that guy was genius take no crap from nobody


32 posted on 09/03/2007 1:20:16 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: Michael.SF.

I remember going to LA Coliseum it was scaryyyy

I do remember even if Raiders sucks on the field you could always count on good fights in the stand (sarcastic on)


33 posted on 09/03/2007 1:22:09 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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To: DogByte6RER

Raiders fans are so cool.


34 posted on 09/03/2007 1:26:37 PM PDT by Junior_G
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To: DogByte6RER
Here in Fresno, many sports bars refuse to show Raider games because of the excessive number of fights and police calls that occur.
35 posted on 09/03/2007 1:35:38 PM PDT by gracie1 (Why can't I pay my visa with my mastercard?)
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To: Fiji Hill

Thanks for the link to the Heidi Game.

I learned something new today and the write-up on Wiki was very interesting.

I was born in ‘64 so I have no memory of the Heidi Game.


36 posted on 09/03/2007 1:52:38 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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