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Marine defender fired
Defend Our Marines ^ | September 5, 2007 | Nathaniel R. Helms

Posted on 09/05/2007 6:53:12 PM PDT by RedRover

Edited on 09/05/2007 7:18:35 PM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

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To: RedRover
On more than one occasion Brahms has bashed Marine Corps participation in the Guantanamo Bay proceedings. On September 7, 2004 Brahms and seven other retired officers wrote an open letter to President George W. Bush expressing their concern over the number of allegations of abuse of prisoners in U.S. military custody.

I remember Brahms and the rest of those scumbags.... I wouldn't want to be the Marine who got that guy assigned to be his defense counsel.

21 posted on 09/05/2007 7:29:48 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: muawiyah

I hear you! If Murtha can be connected to any of the people involved that are part of this JAG mess they should be prosecuted along with him for undue command influence. His fingerprints could very well be all over this.


22 posted on 09/05/2007 7:30:07 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover

Just keep praying. We’ll win in the end.


23 posted on 09/05/2007 7:30:40 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: RedRover; Girlene; xzins

Playing devil’s advocate... is it possible that Col. Favors is angry over misallocation of scarce resources? Assigning a team of over-worked defense lawyers to a few (admittedly high-profile) defendants means fewer defense JAGs are available for defending other Marines.


24 posted on 09/05/2007 7:38:37 PM PDT by jude24 (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Experiment 6-2-6
News regarding your Texas A&M classmate.

Lt Col Vokey

25 posted on 09/05/2007 7:43:24 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: jude24

The timing is really hinky. The lieutenant colonel is in the middle of the SSgt Wuterich hearing. Why pull this now? Why not wait until the hearing is over at least?


26 posted on 09/05/2007 7:47:33 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: BOBWADE

ping


27 posted on 09/05/2007 7:50:34 PM PDT by zip (((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thank you for your service (and the spell check--it's been corrected, thanks be to the Mods).
28 posted on 09/05/2007 7:51:39 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: jude24
Col. Favors can ask for more resources or she can husband scarce resources ~ even pulling defense lawyers off murder cases where the accused could end up imprisoned for life, or worse!

Seems like someone should ask her if she's sought more resources, or has Murtha's team already told the Commandant there will be no more coming.

29 posted on 09/05/2007 7:51:43 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jazusamo; brityank; Girlene

ping to #19


30 posted on 09/05/2007 7:52:24 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: RedRover

Murtha pulling strings?
This is stunning.


31 posted on 09/05/2007 7:53:26 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: RedRover

This is really bad. We also have any sort of whistle blower concerning fraud and waste in the war being canned or harassed. Guess you get rid of folks telling you what you don’t want to hear.


32 posted on 09/05/2007 7:55:28 PM PDT by gracesdad
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To: RedRover

Let me see Red. I will try my math again. Two prosecutors were assigned to prosecute the Government’s case.

As Regional DEFENSE counsel, Vokey would assign the JAGS to defend the accused. 2 for the prosecution- one for the defense—I’ll take those odds anyday(on the golf course-not in court)
Favors said one would be adequate defense counsel

The plot thickens.

Not to mention Mendoza being assigned to the same reserve unit as Lt Col Sullivan(Wuterich’s lead prosecutor)in Chicago-while awaiting the Haditha Article 32’s— something rotten in Denmark

God Bless Our Haditha Marines

Darryl Sharratt


33 posted on 09/05/2007 7:55:42 PM PDT by darrylsharratt
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To: jude24; P-Marlowe; RedRover; Girlene
On the defense side, each SJA carries a large case load. Their circumstances are further exacerbated because each Marine defendant needs at least two Marine Corps trial attorneys to counter the numbers the prosecution fields

Scarce defense resources is a troubling response, Jude, because of the above. Vokey was merely trying to keep up with the numbers of prosecution lawyers assigned, if I read the above correctly. "At least two" suggests that the prosecution had more than 2 assigned.

The troubling thing is that this appears to be saying that the military has stacked the prosecution side and underfunded the defense side.

34 posted on 09/05/2007 7:57:02 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: RedRover
At least a dozen civilian and military defense attorneys have been in communication deciding whether to join in a letter being circulated for endorsements and signatures decrying Favors action. Three attorneys who sought temporary anonymity said they will sign a prepared missive demanding an end to undue command influence in the judicial process. In part the strongly worded letter demands the end of inappropriate command influence before it corrupts the defense process so badly it cannot adequately function.

This is NOT just a symbolic gesture. *Inappropriate* Command influence is a tidy way of noting Unlawful Command Influence, not only cause for a mistrial, but in and of itself a violation of the UCMJ's Article 37:

Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ)

ART. 37. UNLAWFULLY INFLUENCING ACTION OF COURT

(a) No authority convening a general, special, or summary court-martial, nor any other commanding officer, may censure, reprimand, or admonish the court or any member, military judge, or counsel thereof, with respect to the findings or sentence adjudged by the court, or with respect to any other exercises of its or his functions in the conduct of the proceedings. No person subject to this chapter may attempt to coerce or, by any unauthorized means, influence the action of a court-martial or any other military tribunal or any member thereof, in reaching the findings or sentence in any case, or the action of any convening, approving, or reviewing authority with respect to his judicial acts. The foregoing provisions of the subsection shall not apply with respect to

(1) general instructional or informational courses in military justice if such courses are designed solely for the purpose of instructing members of a command in the substantive and procedural aspects of courts-martial, or

(2) to statements and instructions given in open court by the military judge, president of a special court-martial, or counsel.
(b) In the preparation of an effectiveness, fitness, or efficiency report on any other report or document used in whole or in part for the purpose of determining whether a member of the armed forces is qualified to be advanced, in grade, or in determining the assignment or transfer of a member of the armed forces or in determining whether a member of the armed forces should be retained on active duty, no person subject to this chapter may, in preparing any such report (1) consider or evaluate the performance of duty of any such member, as counsel, represented any accused before a court-martial.

In addition, since Unlawful Command Influence is also a violation of U.S. federal law, 10 USC Section 837, a person outside the military who solicits or exerts pressure to attempt to cause Unlawful Command Influence is both soliciting a felony and conspiring to commit a felony. If that person were an officeholder, say a congressman from Pennsylvania, for example, he might not only himself be charged with a felony crime but could also face a permanent bar on holding any federaloffice or position for the rest of his life.

United States Code, Sec. 837. Art. 37.
Unlawfully influencing action of court

-STATUTE-

(a) No authority convening a general, special, or summary court- martial, nor any other commanding officer, may censure, reprimand, or admonish the court or any member, military judge, or counsel thereof, with respect to the findings or sentence adjudged by the court, or with respect to any other exercise of its or his functions in the conduct of the proceeding. No person subject to this chapter may attempt to coerce or, by any unauthorized means, influence the action of a court-martial or any other military tribunal or any member thereof, in reaching the findings or sentence in any case, or the action of any convening, approving, or reviewing authority with respect to his judicial acts. The foregoing provisions of the subsection shall not apply with respect to (1) general instructional or informational courses in military justice if such courses are designed solely for the purpose of instructing members of a command in the substantive and procedural aspects of courts-martial, or (2) to statements and instructions given in open court by the military judge, president of a special court-martial, or counsel. (b) In the preparation of an effectiveness, fitness, or efficiency report, or any other report or document used in whole or in part for the purpose of determining whether a member of the armed forces is qualified to be advanced, in grade, or in determining the assignment or transfer of a member of the armed forces or in determining whether a member of the armed forces should be retained on active duty, no person subject to this chapter may, in preparing any such report (1) consider or evaluate the performance of duty of any such member as a member of a court- martial, or (2) give a less favorable rating or evaluation of any member of the armed forces because of the zeal with which such member, as counsel, represented any accused before a court-martial.
United States Code
U.S Criminal Code

TITLE 18--CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE

Sec. 371. Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States


If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.
35 posted on 09/05/2007 8:07:01 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: Velveeta
Murtha pulling strings?
This is stunning.

Read my post #35 above real carefully....

36 posted on 09/05/2007 8:08:50 PM PDT by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: xzins

Thanks for the ping to #19, Chaplin and I agree with your command influence remark. It is surprising to me that Colonel Rose Favors decided to fire anyone at this time because it seems so blatantly partisan for the prosecution.


37 posted on 09/05/2007 8:10:58 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: archy

Thanks for posting that, it would seem to fit Murtha to a tee.


38 posted on 09/05/2007 8:15:38 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: darrylsharratt

Not to mention Mendoza being assigned to the same reserve unit as Lt Col Sullivan(Wuterich’s lead prosecutor)in Chicago-while awaiting the Haditha Article 32’s— something rotten in Denmark

**********
WOW Darryl - that is stunning! Something stinks here and it ain’t my husband’s shoes...


39 posted on 09/05/2007 8:23:02 PM PDT by Chickenhawk Warmonger (The Media Lied & Soldiers Died)
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To: xzins
The troubling thing is that this appears to be saying that the military has stacked the prosecution side and underfunded the defense side.

Breaker Morant II.

40 posted on 09/05/2007 8:27:13 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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