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Marine defender fired
Defend Our Marines ^ | September 5, 2007 | Nathaniel R. Helms

Posted on 09/05/2007 6:53:12 PM PDT by RedRover

Edited on 09/05/2007 7:18:35 PM PDT by Lead Moderator. [history]

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Nat Helms is a Contributing Editor to Defend Our Marines. He is a Vietnam vet, journalist, combat reporter, and, most recently, author of My Men Are My Heroes: The Brad Kasal Story (Meredith Books, 2007).
1 posted on 09/05/2007 6:53:14 PM PDT by RedRover
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To: RedRover

bfl


2 posted on 09/05/2007 6:55:18 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: RedRover

Our fine Military should have the best legal service.


3 posted on 09/05/2007 6:57:52 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto)
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4 posted on 09/05/2007 6:58:40 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover

Did they mean “counsel” not “council” perhaps?


5 posted on 09/05/2007 6:58:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Our next president: Fred Thompson!! http://www.ImWithFred.com)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

Amen to that.


6 posted on 09/05/2007 7:01:41 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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“He is currently defending Staff Sergeant Frank Wuterich”

oh no


7 posted on 09/05/2007 7:02:45 PM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My error.


8 posted on 09/05/2007 7:07:25 PM PDT by RedRover (DefendOurMarines.com)
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Vokey was fired by Colonel Rose M. Favors

Unfavorable.

9 posted on 09/05/2007 7:08:03 PM PDT by lilycicero (Favor this....SSgt Wuterich is a hero and Vokey had his best interest.)
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To: RedRover
Bad news always comes in threes. So far, for the military today, we have had this idiocy and the Blue Suiters losing a few nuc warheads.

What’s #3? What’s next?!

Seriously, this could result in dismissal of all charges against the Marines.

There is an old UCMJ provision (please bear with me, I’m going back 40 years) that requires that Gmvt’s counsel could be no more qualified than Defense counsel.

That was back when Combat Arms officers would serve as defense counsel of accused in Summary Court Martial.

Rule was simple. if Gmvt used a lawyer to present case, defendant had to get a lawyer to. if Gmvt used a line officer, accused did not have to be furnished a “real” lawyer as counsel.

If more than one lawyer is working on Gmvt case in this matter, then is unfair to defendants... in addition to being exceptionally stupid PR.

Grounds for successful appeal.

10 posted on 09/05/2007 7:08:11 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in Vietnam meant never having to say I was sorry......)
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In the article there is too much between these paragraphs.

“Vokey was fired by Colonel Rose M. Favors, the Command Defense Counsel of the entire Marine Corps. She reports to the Staff Judge Advocate. Favors reportedly fired Vokey for allowing each of the defendants in the Haditha and Hamandiyah murder and dereliction of duty cases to have more the one Marine Corps lawyer assigned to represent them. Favors reportedly told Vokey that assigning so many defense lawyers was unnecessary for them to receive adequate representation.”

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“The prosecution enjoys a built-in home court advantage. In addition to enjoying the services of the most experienced trial attorneys among the SJAs, the prosecution can call upon the resources of Naval Criminal Investigative Service investigators, other federal law enforcement officials, and apparently unlimited funds to travel world-wide interviewing witnesses and otherwise investigating frequently specious allegations.

Attorney Kevin B. McDermott, who represents Capt. Lucas McConnell, said Favors’ decision – particularly her timing – is prejudicial to the performance of the defense lawyers – particularly active duty Marines – who must serve two masters.”


11 posted on 09/05/2007 7:08:34 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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Very interesting piece by Nat Helms. It’s also going to be interesting to see what is about to take place in the JAG service, a lot of this isn’t passing the smell test.


12 posted on 09/05/2007 7:08:50 PM PDT by jazusamo (DefendOurMarines.com)
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To: RedRover; jazusamo; Girlene; xzins; darrylsharratt
Ho;y Toledo. The train is heading off the rails, it seems.

In addition to enjoying the services of the most experienced trial attorneys among the SJAs, the prosecution can call upon the resources of Naval Criminal Investigative Service investigators, other federal law enforcement officials, and apparently unlimited funds to travel world-wide interviewing witnesses and otherwise investigating frequently specious allegations.

To say nothing of the scumbags like Murtha, Schumer, McGirk, et al -- promulgating the insurgent propaganda as truth. Think we'll ever get a price of what these persecutions prosecutions have cost OUR treasury? We are already seeing the costs in the troops in the field.

13 posted on 09/05/2007 7:17:00 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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http://www.thejetstreamonline.com/issues/pdfs/boot022505.pdf

Colonel Favors is married to Col. Rose M. Favors. She was born in Frankfurt,Germany, and is a graduate of the University of South Carolina School of Law. She was commissioned in 1979.

Her major assignments include: trialcounsel, 3rd Force Service SupportGroup; defense counsel, MCAS Iwakuni,Japan; defense counsel and administrative law attorney, MCB Camp Pendleton, Calif.; action officer in the Military LawBranch, Judge Advocate Division, Headquarters Marine Corps; appellategovernment counsel, Navy-Marine CorpsAppellate Review Activity, WashingtonNavy Yard; chief review officer, LegalServices Support Section, 1st ForceServiceSupport Group; deputy staff judgeadvocate, 1st Marine Expeditionary Brigade; staff judge advocate, MCBHawaii; deputy staff judge advocate,Marine Corps Combat Development Command, MCB Quantico, Va.; staffjudge advocate, 3rd Marine Division;staffjudge advocate, III Marine Expeditionary Force; director, Appellate Government Division, Navy-Marine Corps Appellate Review Activity, Washington Navy Yardand staff judge advocate, Marine Corps Combat Development Command, MCBQuantico, Va.

She is currently serving as staff judgeadvocate for Marine Corps Recruiting Command and Training and EducationCommand. Colonel Favors is admitted to practicelaw before the Supreme Court of theUnited States and the United States Courtof Appeals for the Armed Forces. She is a member of the South Carolina Bar. Colonel Favors’ personal decorations include the Legion of Merit with goldstar, the Meritorious Service Medal with gold star and the Navy-Marine Corps Commendation Medal with gold star.


14 posted on 09/05/2007 7:17:21 PM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: RedRover

BTW, thank you and Mr. Helms for breaking this news.


15 posted on 09/05/2007 7:17:45 PM PDT by lilycicero (Favor this....SSgt Wuterich is a hero and Vokey had his best interest.)
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Not a problem. Thank you for what you are doing! I’m an Army Intelligence veteran, but my late father was a Gunnery Sergeant commo chief that served in WWII, Korea and Vietnam.


16 posted on 09/05/2007 7:18:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Our next president: Fred Thompson!! http://www.ImWithFred.com)
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To: RedRover

What an obscene mess.


17 posted on 09/05/2007 7:21:28 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Guess this is Murtha's first shot across the bow.

Wonder what he'll arrange for next.

18 posted on 09/05/2007 7:25:40 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RedRover; jude24; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan
“I am pissed,” Brahms said. “The danger here is not malevolence; it is the appearance of evil and the effect upon those in the defense bar.”

Brahms is clearly indicating a problem of defense counsel careers being threatened. In other words, they are doing TOO well, and their clients are not being convicted.

This is the ultimate in command influence on the JAG side of the house.

Vokey was fired by Colonel Rose M. Favors, the Command Defense Counsel of the entire Marine Corps. She reports to the Staff Judge Advocate.

The SJA, I assume, is the Chief of JAG for the Marine Corps, reporting to the Chief of Staff of the Marine Corps, a 4 star who sits on the JCS with Pace (Marine) as the current Chairman for a bit longer.

On the defense side, each SJA carries a large case load. Their circumstances are further exacerbated because each Marine defendant needs at least two Marine Corps trial attorneys to counter the numbers the prosecution fields

It is common knowledge in the military that commanders generally favor Prosecution JAGs and disregard Defense JAGs. That is because commanders are generally Judge and Jury against soldiers who require punishment. Defense JAGs muck up their plans.

The prosecution enjoys a built-in home court advantage. In addition to enjoying the services of the most experienced trial attorneys among the SJAs, the prosecution can call upon the resources of Naval Criminal Investigative Service investigators, other federal law enforcement officials, and apparently unlimited funds to travel world-wide interviewing witnesses and otherwise investigating frequently specious allegations.

As is obvious here, the UCMJ requires that the military provide both prosecution and defense. It is to be fair and balanced. Generally, though, the experienced lawyers gravitate to prosecution because it's just easier to deal with commanders and not be considered a "dirtbag defense lawyer."

Who pays for all these jaunts around the world, and why can't the defense authorize some of the same to discover questions that they have?

Why isn't there a division of NCIS devoted to defense research, and all of seems to focus on prosecution research?

19 posted on 09/05/2007 7:26:19 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain And Proud of It! Those who support the troops will pray for them to WIN!)
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To: RedRover

Now that I see this, I realize that when all is said and done this whole thing will make a best selling book from Vokey’s point of view. (with Nat?)


20 posted on 09/05/2007 7:28:25 PM PDT by RDTF (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but Democrats believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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